Canadian City Proposals - Page 868

esquire · #**17341** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Two sides of rust-coloured metal...

Looks like we have ourselves a fad.

It's OK. You take that away and you have a very anonymous, anodyne-looking tower. We are far from the breaking point of this design trend.

TorontoDrew · #**17342** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 3:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by hipster duck

^That’s a drastic reduction in size. Proposals get redesigned all the time and buildings lose floors, but an entire tower got axed while the other one lost 10 floors. I wonder what happened.

That is curious, in a city short on housing you have to wonder why this happened. It's not as though it was blocking views of the lake. This new design looks rushed so hopefully it gets changed to something a little less generic.

TorontoDrew · #**17343** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 3:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

It's OK. You take that away and you have a very anonymous, anodyne-looking tower. We are far from the breaking point of this design trend.

We could have a full year of only Rust colour designs and barely scratch the surface of 2 decades of blue glass builds. I hope it's a trend that takes hold for a while.

suburbanite · #**17344** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

That is curious, in a city short on housing you have to wonder why this happened. It's not as though it was blocking views of the lake. This new design looks rushed so hopefully it gets changed to something a little less generic.

As if more lakeside commoditized studio units are what's going to solve our housing crisis.

If that is the final density though, then Lifetime really got screwed . They paid $100 million for the site, which works out to about $100 per buildable SF of their initial design. This redesign looks like it could be less than half the original density, and $200 per SF is hard to make work in Toronto.

Innsertnamehere · #**17345** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by hipster duck

^That’s a drastic reduction in size. Proposals get redesigned all the time and buildings lose floors, but an entire tower got axed while the other one lost 10 floors. I wonder what happened.

The initial proposal was far too aggressive. Typically when that happens the developer goes to the OLT though. I'm surprised they agreed to such a drastic reduction.

WhipperSnapper · #**17346** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 3:54 PM**

Wasn't the intial proposal less of a proposal and more of a concept for the sale of the property?

Either way, this one gives the existing Waterclub towers some breathing room.

WhipperSnapper · #**17347** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 4:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Another Yorkville proposal

Address: 15 Charles St E, Toronto, Ontario, M4Y 1S1
Category: Condo, Retail
Status: Pre-Construction
Number: of Buildings 1
Height: 571 ft / 174.00 m
Storeys: 54
Number of Units: 549
Developer: Republic Developments
Architect: IBI Group
Heritage Architect: GBCA Architects
Landscape Architect: Strybos Barron King
Engineering Gradient Wind Engineers & Scientists: EQ Building Performance Inc., Toronto Inspection Ltd, Millennium Engineering Inc, Kuntz Forestry Consulting Inc.
Planning: IBI Group
Site Services: J.D. Barnes Limited
Transportation & Infrastructure: WSP

Source: urbantoronto.ca

Roughly 10 units per floor which translate into 2 to 3 units facing the glass part. The rendering (at least to me) gives the impression of a much larger footprint than the current high rise hotel. These will small units. I just can't believe it won't end up having full spandrel panels.

WhipperSnapper · #**17348** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 4:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Two sides of rust-coloured metal...

Looks like we have ourselves a fad.

It's Toronto. The city has completed 25 to 50 high rises every year for the past 20 years. Every major firm has dozens of projects on the go. There's no such thing as a "one off" whether it's marketing, colours or, design.

suburbanite · #**17349** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Wasn't the intial proposal less of a proposal and more of a concept for the sale of the property?

Either way, this one gives the existing Waterclub towers some breathing room.

The rezoning application for the density in the initial proposal was submitted 4 months after the purchase. You would think they would have had a good indication of what was achievable at the site before dropping 9 figures.

TorontoDrew · #**17350** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 4:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

As if more lakeside commoditized studio units are what's going to solve our housing crisis.

I agree and never said that.

WhipperSnapper · #**17351** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

The rezoning application for the density in the initial proposal was submitted 4 months after the purchase. You would think they would have had a good indication of what was achievable at the site before dropping 9 figures.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

They have options providing they can afford to hold the property without developing it for a while. Come back in ten years with a similar two tower proposal or flip it a couple years from now to someone else that will sit on it.

JHikka · #**17352** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 7:55 PM**

101 Spadina Avenue | 135.4m | 39s | Devron Developments | AUDAX

via Northern Light at UT
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/to...-devron-developments-audax.25556/page-12

uzi · #**17353** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 10:38 PM**

that is one gorgeous proposal for Vancouver by Bosa. 1700 Alberni, designed by Heatherwick.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYkIYiyPNWG/

GeneralLea · #**17354** Posted **Jan 10, 2022, 11:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

200 Queens Quay was just redesigned to this:

It looks like E Condos and 2221 Yonge had a lovechild...that's not pretty.

giallo · #**17355** Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 2:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by uzi

that is one gorgeous proposal for Vancouver by Bosa. 1700 Alberni, designed by Heatherwick.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYkIYiyPNWG/

Here are a few more renderings shared in the Vancouver section.

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Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYkIYiyPNWG/

Metro-One · #**17356** Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 2:17 AM**

It has a 1950s sci-fi look, which I dig.

Metro-One · #**17357** Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 3:15 AM**

So now we have a view of UBC’s full 3 tower project in downtown Kelowna.

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Originally Posted by JayMi

Below is the link for the details on the other two towers proposed on the UBCO site by Mission Group. Now we have a picture of the whole site.

http://apps.kelowna.ca/CityPage/DevApps/DP22-0001%20DVP22-0002%20Doyle%20Ave%20550.pdf

mcminsen · #**17358** Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 10:34 AM**

More images of the 1700 Alberni proposal in Vancouver from the Dailyhive article.

source: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1700-alberni-street-vancouver-towers-redesigned-bosa-heatherwick

biguc · #**17359** Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 10:58 AM**

That looks amazing. Is there supposed to be tile or some kind of glazing on the curvy parts? And is this the same architect as the Butterfly?

mcminsen · #**17360** Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 12:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by biguc

That looks amazing. Is there supposed to be tile or some kind of glazing on the curvy parts? And is this the same architect as the Butterfly?

Ceramic glazed terracotta.

From the Daily Hive article:

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“People want bigger and more useable outdoor spaces that create extended living areas, allowing them to take their work or recreational time outside.
They want buildings with solidity, personality and depth that feel permanent,” said Thomas Heatherwick, the founder of London-based architectural firm Heatherwick Studio.

“We saw a real need to better connect the towers with the surrounding nature and to offer substantial materiality that feels long lasting.
Our vision is based around a three-dimensional framework conceptualized as ceramic glazed terracotta, which strikes the right balance between privacy and the incredible views in all directions.”

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The Butterfly is from Bing Thom Architects (now Revery Architecture).