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Old Posted Jan 7, 2022, 10:15 PM
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Is that a joke? What heritage quality can that possibly have? Especially compared to the other buildings that will be lost. Toronto is ridiculous.


That is hilarious... I swear the day is coming when one of these bad boys will be incorporated into the base of a tower in Toronto

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2022, 10:16 PM
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That is hilarious... I swear the day is coming when one of these bad boys will be incorporated into the base of a tower in Toronto

It's looking that way. Facadism is horrible enough without choosing mediocre 🞵🞵🞵🞵 to preserve.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2022, 10:51 PM
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That is hilarious... I swear the day is coming when one of these bad boys will be incorporated into the base of a tower in Toronto


Can rent out that one room bad boy for $1000 a month.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2022, 10:59 PM
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But what does that matter if every street wall ends up as the same characterless glass windowed CRU's or worse yet condo lobbies?
The block would be clogged with people replicating this density along the entire stretch (don't confuse that as a positive) The last thing one will notice is the characterless streetwall (and you always have the Facadism on the corner to provide variety)
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2022, 11:07 PM
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But what does that matter if every street wall ends up as the same characterless glass windowed CRU's or worse yet condo lobbies?
Bloor/Bay is already condo lobbies and glass anyway - this new build won't make much of a difference but will add a significant number of units to the area. I would understand this sentiment if this 270m tower was proposed at Ossington/College or Roncesvalles/Howard Park.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2022, 1:54 AM
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Is heritage retention the real reason that corner lot is remaining intact as it is?

Does Tissot watches have some grandfathered lease or something? Definitely an oddity.

And is Riocan developing this? I dont mind the design but the retail or absence of retail in the rendering doesn't look too promising.

Some sort of a little interior atrium like "The Colonnade" within the podium wouldve been nice, but I wonder if downtown has already reached retail saturation?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2022, 5:00 AM
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I checked the heritage database. It's a listed property. It's not a designated heritage property though. It's designed by Rother, Bland, Trudeau. That's the only reason I can think of for listing this property. Trudeau is the brother and uncle.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2022, 5:53 PM
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I don't know if I would call it sterilizing knowing an entire block will be busted. The coverage here is intense and the number of units could potential house 3000 or more people as housing costs continue to escalate. The population density per square kilometre could be in the several million.
Yeah. Dense for sure but every time I go to Toronto it feels less and less interesting. The streets are all becoming lined with curtain wall podiums. I know it’s an unstoppable force, but the streets are losing their soul. Thankfully Toronto has a lot of great streets outside of downtown, but the centre has become sterile.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2022, 6:07 PM
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For sure. I have said it many times myself. Top of mind now are densities that may be pushed through without much consideration. Ford acts like a bigger is better fanboy. I've lived in several 400 to 500 unit with 10 to 15 units per floor and a good analogy of the experience would be a curtain wall podium. I doubt now stacking to of those buildings on top of one another would improve the experience. It's a vertical subdivision unless you start introducing commercial activities and places for people in the middle and upper floors. Granted, none of my buildings had the amenities some of these building have today. As far as I know, they are still centred around exercise, workspaces and, rooms for hosting parties which generally aren't spaces to meet the neighbours.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 7:09 PM
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Another Yorkville proposal

Address: 15 Charles St E, Toronto, Ontario, M4Y 1S1
Category: Condo, Retail
Status: Pre-Construction
Number: of Buildings 1
Height: 571 ft / 174.00 m
Storeys: 54
Number of Units: 549
Developer: Republic Developments
Architect: IBI Group
Heritage Architect: GBCA Architects
Landscape Architect: Strybos Barron King
Engineering Gradient Wind Engineers & Scientists: EQ Building Performance Inc., Toronto Inspection Ltd, Millennium Engineering Inc, Kuntz Forestry Consulting Inc.
Planning: IBI Group
Site Services: J.D. Barnes Limited
Transportation & Infrastructure: WSP


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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 7:19 PM
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^ I wish they had used the burnt orange facade treatment on all four sides of the buildings. Seeing the conventional blue condo glass peaking out on the sides almost makes it seem like that draped a rectangular table cloth over a generic contemporary condo design to hide its basic-ness. "Oh damn they're here early! Quick, drape this orange thing over it to make it look cool since we don't have time to design something interesting!"

But sure, that does make it look more interesting than a generic condo without that.
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 8:55 PM
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It looks fine to me.
     
     
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Diggin' it and love the subtle penthouse inset patio.
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 10:13 PM
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It looks a bit like a flash drive that's been inserted into a USB port. I do like it. It looks more 'one-piece' than most buildings. I hope when built it retains the seamless look of the rust coloured bands.
     
     
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Rust coloured towers: the blue glass tower of the '20s.
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2022, 2:29 PM
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To replace the giant parking lot structure in Queens Quay.

Address: 200 Queens Quay West, Toronto, Ontario, M5J 2Y5
Category: Condo, Institutional, Public Space, Rental
Status: Pre-Construction
Height: 779 ft / 237.50 m, 472 ft / 144.00 m
Storeys: 71, 41
Number of Units: 1372, 110
Developer: Lifetime Developments, Diamond Corp
Architect: Wallman Architects
Landscape Architect: DTAH
Engineering: Grounded Engineering Inc.
Planning: Urban Strategies Inc.


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Old Posted Jan 10, 2022, 2:39 PM
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Two sides of rust-coloured metal...

Looks like we have ourselves a fad.
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2022, 2:43 PM
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200 Queens Quay was just redesigned to this:

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2022, 2:49 PM
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^That’s a drastic reduction in size. Proposals get redesigned all the time and buildings lose floors, but an entire tower got axed while the other one lost 10 floors. I wonder what happened.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2022, 2:53 PM
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Well that 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵. More rust colour please! All we need is another blue grey glass structure down there.
     
     
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