General Vancouver Updates - Page 484

whatnext · #**9661** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Right, but it's a new building - they're going to build on the soccer field and then tear the old one down. Surely they could build it to 4-5 floors and get one, maybe two-thirds more capacity?

As Changing City pointed out, it's a 1:1 replacement for 398 students (2019). It's estimated to fall to 267 over the next eight years, so Senakw and Molson get... 137 spaces between the two of them.

There's an idea. Though from what little I know about Arts Umbrella, they're not very good about sharing.

I believe Arts Umbrella only got the southern building (newer?). The building closer to the water is across the road and completely separate.

Migrant_Coconut · #**9662** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

New schools are a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵. If they weren't, we'd already have them operating in Coal Harbour and Olympic Village, and planning (if not funding) happening for something in the Senakw vicinity.

Humour me - why doesn't a complete rebuild of a school on the existing site count as "new?" They're already planning construction, surely it's not that much more expensive to go slightly higher.

WarrenC12 · #**9663** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Humour me - why doesn't a complete rebuild of a school on the existing site count as "new?" They're already planning construction, surely it's not that much more expensive to go slightly higher.

It's just not new capacity for the community.

I understand the need to upgrade schools, particularly in the most risky fault zones. Sure it's a new school, but it's like housing. If you tear down a 500 unit building and build another 500 unit building, it does nothing to address the lack of homes for people.

Migrant_Coconut · #**9664** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

It's just not new capacity for the community.

I understand the need to upgrade schools, particularly in the most risky fault zones. Sure it's a new school, but it's like housing. If you tear down a 500 unit building and build another 500 unit building, it does nothing to address the lack of homes for people.

I think we're talking past each other. We're talking about an existing school, Henry Hudson, getting a new seismically-upgraded building; once finished, everybody moves into the new one and they turn the old one into a play field. No extra classrooms or residential space is created either way.

WarrenC12 · #**9665** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I think we're talking past each other. We're talking about an existing school, Henry Hudson, getting a new seismically-upgraded building; once finished, everybody moves into the new one and they turn the old one into a play field. No extra classrooms or residential space is created either way.

Yes, it started with me asking if the replacement school would be bigger. Answer was no unfortunately. Although I see the VSB expects declining enrollment in that area (not including the proposed developments I'd wager), so overall I guess that's the best we can hope for.

Changing City · #**9666** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Humour me - why doesn't a complete rebuild of a school on the existing site count as "new?" They're already planning construction, surely it's not that much more expensive to go slightly higher.

But there's no 'demand' at the moment. Vancouver has excess school capacity overall, but not in the right locations. This replacement has been planned for several years, is badly needed, and the funds have been allocated.

Senakw is a more recent project that's come from nowhere, and even now we have no idea what the unit mix is, or how many kids an all market rental cluster of towers might generate. (If you took Citygate as an example, there are very few kids going to VSB Schools from the market towers. The ones that are there are almost all in the non-market family housing. That's true in Coal Harbour too).

Concord's project might be decades away - it's not to zoning, and Metro would have to agree to remove it from industrial zoning, even if the City supported it.

The Province isn't going to put funds into building a bigger school that might be needed one day - particularly as the site could easily add more building in future (unlike Coal Harbour for example). If the Squamish Nation or Concord were willing to put cash up to make the school bigger, maybe that could happen. Otherwise there's a line of projects to replace schools that would kill their pupils if an earthquake came at the wrong time, and the Province isn't about to divert the funds from those to some vague future need, however 'logical' it might seem in a perfect world.

Migrant_Coconut · #**9667** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:56 PM**

Well, with Victoria High for example, Upgrade and Expand was "just" $10-20 million more than plain old Upgrade. Kitsilano High is full too, but that was also a 1:1 replacement. So I guess my question is if the VSB has enough money, why they don't opt for the former?

Changing City · #**9668** Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 10:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Eeyup. So lemme try again: is there a reason why the rebuild is only as big as the old building, or is it just the VSB pinching pennies? For example, Victoria High's Upgrade and Expand option was "just" $10-20 million more than plain old Upgrade.

VSB don't have any pennies. All new schools are paid for by the Province. (except Coal Harbour, where BC Hydro are paying).

hollywoodnorth · #**9669** Posted **Jun 7, 2021, 9:15 AM**

Crane is up for 1477 West Broadway by PCI.

its much taller than I thought it would be for such a short tower "wink wink"

I say wink wink as we all know PCI is going to be going back for a rezoning to add 10ish floors of residential.

but ya .... long story short the crane has been erected and it is a very nice long slender erection to boot

.... enjoy kids!

Spr0ckets · #**9670** Posted **Jun 7, 2021, 4:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

Crane is up for 1477 West Broadway by PCI.

its much taller than I thought it would be for such a short tower "wink wink"

I say wink wink as we all know PCI is going to be going back for a rezoning to add 10ish floors of residential.

but ya .... long story short the crane has been erected and it is a very nice long slender erection to boot

.... enjoy kids!

You really think they're going to add residential (as opposed to office/commercial) and only 10 floors on that prominent corner?

The current idea is that their present plan is for 6 or so storeys of office building (including the entrance to the W. Broadway - S. Granville Skytrain station), with the understanding that they are expected to go back for rezoning sometime in the future to build a highrise tower extension to that. But for certainly much much taller than 10 storeys.

The current construction taking place is taking into account such an extension and tower construction addition in the future.

I suppose they could go for a rezoning that sees them apply for a mixed use to include both residential and commercial/office given the prime location of the lot, but at the same time given that that intersection is considerably much more commercial and office-use oriented, I would assume that that's what they'd aim the extension for as well.

djmk · #**9671** Posted **Jun 7, 2021, 4:58 PM**

anyone know what's going on with the Gateway building on Bridgeway? Did they stop construction?

http://thegatewaybuilding.ca/

Changing City · #**9672** Posted **Jun 7, 2021, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by djmk

anyone know what's going on with the Gateway building on Bridgeway? Did they stop construction?

http://thegatewaybuilding.ca/

Highly likely. PortLiving are selling off several of their project sites, in at least a couple of cases because they're in bankruptcy protection and they're court ordered sales. Port Capital development continue to get sued for non-payments, most recently by the local architects at Terrace House.

djmk · #**9673** Posted **Jun 7, 2021, 7:53 PM**

Thanks. And that is too bad

Nothing worse than an unfinished building just sitting there

Zepfancouver · #**9674** Posted **Jun 7, 2021, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

Crane is up for 1477 West Broadway by PCI.

Making a few adjustments today on the tower crane at 1477 West Broadway. A screen capture from my dashcam.

I just noticed this gap in the jib. If it's not a photo glitch, hopefully they will address it.

jollyburger · #**9675** Posted **Jun 8, 2021, 1:38 AM**

They are going before the judge tomorrow. Landa has submitted an improved offer (Solterra offered $21 million) but the bid process is a bit clouded.

https://documentcentre.ey.com/#/detail-engmt?eid=385

hollywoodnorth · #**9676** Posted **Jun 8, 2021, 8:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

You really think they're going to add residential (as opposed to office/commercial) and only 10 floors on that prominent corner?

The current idea is that their present plan is for 6 or so storeys of office building (including the entrance to the W. Broadway - S. Granville Skytrain station), with the understanding that they are expected to go back for rezoning sometime in the future to build a highrise tower extension to that. But for certainly much much taller than 10 storeys.

The current construction taking place is taking into account such an extension and tower construction addition in the future.

I suppose they could go for a rezoning that sees them apply for a mixed use to include both residential and commercial/office given the prime location of the lot, but at the same time given that that intersection is considerably much more commercial and office-use oriented, I would assume that that's what they'd aim the extension for as well.

as long as they add ... ANYTHING ....I will be happy.

4 stories above a skytrain station is a "only in Vancouver" kinda thing and blows my mind.

Migrant_Coconut · #**9677** Posted **Jun 8, 2021, 9:19 AM**

It's been designed specifically for an upzone - no point in fighting for 20+ floors when the Broadway Plan will just give them that when it finishes next year.

officedweller · #**9678** Posted **Jun 8, 2021, 9:20 PM**

Burrard Slopes Park to take step forward
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officedweller · #**9679** Posted **Jun 14, 2021, 9:12 PM**

Not sure if this has been posted:

550 East Broadway

Construction has started on this new 4-storey mixed-use project at 550 East Broadway in Vancouver. The design for this urban infill lot creates a flexible CLT structural system, clad in simple white corrugated metal and perforated aluminium.
https://twitter.com/mgarchitecture

officedweller · #**9680** Posted **Jun 14, 2021, 11:04 PM**

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