Broadway Subway - Millennium Line Extension to Arbutus | U/C - Page 6

scottN · #**101** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 6:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Who's decision was it to permanently block that entrance? CoV or Translink?

What? Isn't the main entrance to the station from the corner of Beatty and Dunsmuir?

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**102** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 7:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by scottN

What? Isn't the main entrance to the station from the corner of Beatty and Dunsmuir?

they mean the underground passage that goes under Beatty.

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2799227,...aTtd5by1_0adOFY6DCPHA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

there is the remnants of it. it was filled with sand/stone so it can be reopened 1 day. it is now an office.

MIPS · #**103** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 8:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Who's decision was it to permanently block that entrance? CoV or Translink?

BC Transit.
There was a news article around 1995 where the city was asking for the path to be reopened and BC Transit wasn't interested due to crime concerns.

trofirhen · #**104** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

The weather in most of Japan is better than that of in Vancouver, yet arcades and underground networks are everywhere, from big cities to small towns.

Arcades especially are wonderful. The feeling of being outside but completely protected from rain and snow.

My experience of Japan was that the winters are milder and shorter, but that the summers are scorching hot and stiflingly humid, leaving people soaked with perspiration.
Could all their arcades be to provide relief from the summer heat and rain? Vancouver has winter and autumn rain and chill to deal with instead.

Meraki · #**105** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

BC Transit.
There was a news article around 1995 where the city was asking for the path to be reopened and BC Transit wasn't interested due to crime concerns.

Any idea when Gateway's 2nd entrance was demolished due to crime concerns?

DKaz · #**106** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 9:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Meraki

Any idea when Gateway's 2nd entrance was demolished due to crime concerns?

I don't remember Gateway ever having a 2nd entrance. I was freaked the f*** out once by some guy in the current only entrance that I went the long way around to the elevator on street level instead and took the elevator up. Didn't need that 2nd entrance for crime concerns.

I do see evidence that something existed before.

Source: Robert W., FourSquare
https://foursquare.com/v/gateway-skytrain-station/4aa92311f964a520205220e3

MIPS · #**107** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Meraki

Any idea when Gateway's 2nd entrance was demolished due to crime concerns?

That one I got an answer for here on the forum.
Gateway closed the second entrance in part because a surrounding development never happened and the station at the time was not seeing enough traffic to justify it. If memory serves it was in the late 90's so it wasn't open long.

Why they demolished it instead of just keeping the shutters closed....no idea.

Meraki · #**108** Posted **Dec 4, 2020, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

I don't remember Gateway ever having a 2nd entrance. I was freaked the f*** out once by some guy in the current only entrance that I went the long way around to the elevator on street level instead and took the elevator up. Didn't need that 2nd entrance for crime concerns.

I do see evidence that something existed before.

Source: Robert W., FourSquare
https://foursquare.com/v/gateway-skytrain-station/4aa92311f964a520205220e3

In that picture, the floor tiles are different where the staircase was, and that wayfinding panel hung in the center of the platform was to indicate the exit.

s211 · #**109** Posted **Dec 5, 2020, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

That one I got an answer for here on the forum.
Gateway closed the second entrance in part because a surrounding development never happened and the station at the time was not seeing enough traffic to justify it. If memory serves it was in the late 90's so it wasn't open long.

Why they demolished it instead of just keeping the shutters closed....no idea.

I'm also thinking that the lost and found office is placed where the tunnel entrance under Beatty would have connected.

MIPS · #**110** Posted **Dec 5, 2020, 1:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by s211

I'm also thinking that the lost and found office is placed where the tunnel entrance under Beatty would have connected.

Pretty much. I can't get good photos in that corner because station security is oddly fast whenever someone wanders over there.

Anyways, we're wandering off-topic unless we want to continue discussing additional entrances for the Broadway Extension.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**111** Posted **Dec 5, 2020, 3:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

Pretty much. I can't get good photos in that corner because station security is oddly fast whenever someone wanders over there.

does it still say "Beatty St Exit" on that sign in front of the wall? it looks like it

jollyburger · #**112** Posted **Dec 5, 2020, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

does it still say "Beatty St Exit" on that sign in front of the wall? it looks like it

It's Beatty St West

officedweller · #**113** Posted **Dec 5, 2020, 4:59 AM**

The nail in the coffin for the Beatty St. west exit was when the 111 Dunsmuir office tower did not connect to it underground - likely due to the design (open plaza out front with little retail and the smaller size of the building.

Even Park Place did not connect to the "future connection" from Burrard Station and it's as big of an office tower as you get in Vnacouver. Park Place has a minicule amount of retail in its basement.

As aluded to above, crime is probably the major deterrant for additional extrances. That probably isn't an issue in Japan.

jollyburger · #**114** Posted **Dec 18, 2020, 2:47 AM**

Work on Arbutus starts in January

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Arbutus Station Block

Work will begin the week of January 4, 2021 and will take place over 2 months.
Phase One: removal of hazardous materials at 2097 West Broadway. Work occurs weekdays from 7 am to 3 pm for approximately 4 weeks, with minimal noise and impact to traffic expected.
Phase Two: removal of electrical and HVAC systems and demolition of interior walls.
Phase Three: full demolition.

Vin · #**115** Posted **Dec 18, 2020, 8:10 PM**

If the City finally manages to remove the Viaducts (if ever), Beatty Street would most likely become very busy. At the time, Transit users would definitely appreciate having a secondary access/egress to the station as I would anticipate longer waits waiting to cross that intersection.

red-paladin · #**116** Posted **Dec 18, 2020, 9:15 PM**

Let's keep on topic please. The conversation about that one time entrance has been exhausted.

superelevation · #**117** Posted **Dec 26, 2020, 8:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Small correction: too far to connect with a North American budget. Many Asian cities have PATH networks over much longer distances.

Its not about the budget being low, its about costs being high. In Korea especially subways are constructed *super* cheap. As in, the new RER style regional express system that is mostly underground has 50km of tunnels being build for like 3 billion.

Europe builds stuff way cheaper too!

jollyburger · #**118** Posted **Jan 1, 2021, 4:21 AM**

More pre-construction work:

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Mount Pleasant Station Block (click to view notice)

Demolition of buildings at 124-138 E. Broadway, 140-150 E. Broadway, 2501 Main Street and 2509 Main Street.
Work occurs weekdays from 7 am to 3 pm from January 6 – February 26, 2021.
Street parking will be limited; signs will be installed in advance.
Sidewalks on the southwest corner of E. Broadway and Main Street may have temporary pedestrian detours.
Bus stops #50879 eastbound East Broadway at Main St., and #50238 southbound Main St. at Broadway will be temporarily relocated.
Earl Finning Way (click to view notice)

Geotechnical work is taking place on Earl Finning Way beginning January 11 through March 30, 2021 and will occur between 7am and 6pm weekdays.
Access to roads and properties will be maintained.
Street parking will be limited and noise may be noticeable from drilling exploration. We are working hard to minimize impacts, and thank you in advance for your patience.

https://www.broadwaysubway.ca/construction/current-work/

bloomtronzero · #**119** Posted **Jan 2, 2021, 8:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Meraki

In that picture, the floor tiles are different where the staircase was, and that wayfinding panel hung in the center of the platform was to indicate the exit.

Under the platform, you can see where there's concrete panels under the same spot the different-coloured bricks are. Shame it isn't there anymore, but it's a weird station already.

Feathered Friend · #**120** Posted **Jan 13, 2021, 11:11 PM**

For those interested, the Urban Design Panel will be reviewing the Broadway Subway stations today at 4pm.

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Broadway Subway Project (BSP)
Description: To develop six new underground skytrain stations and transit plazas as part of the Broadway Subway Project. Stations locations are as follows: GNW- Emily Carr, Mount Pleasant,Broadway City Hall (interchange station integrated with the existing Canada Line), OakVGH, South Granville and Arbutus. Note: This session will be non-voting meeting of the panel. The project is being delivered by the Province, therefore does not require a development permit and instead follows the Design Advisory Process (DAP).

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/udp-agenda-01132021.pdf

Unfortunately, neither I nor my spouse will be able to attend today, so we might have to wait for the minutes to find out how this one went.

You can join the meeting from this page
https://vancouver.ca/your-government/urban-design-panel.aspx