Edmonton Public Transit - Page 476

feepa · #**9501** Posted **Jan 29, 2020, 9:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^I'd agree with the 25-35% number.

We did a study and it showed:

55% car
17% LRT
14% bus
The rest - other - bike, walk, uber etc.

is that just for downtown or the city as a whole? What about a region as a whole?

Coldrsx · #**9502** Posted **Jan 29, 2020, 9:45 PM**

How do people get Downtown.

DKaz · #**9503** Posted **Jan 29, 2020, 10:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by kcantor

4 out of 16 - 25% - in 2018 isn't far off 30% today given the tower didn't open until the end of september that year and it took time for everyone to actually relocate. i can see a 5% lift simply from better access to lrt compared to the old location(s).

5 out of 16 in the winter = 31%.

There weren't any changes at all when we moved to the new tower, all the drivers either adapted to the significantly higher parking rates or parked further out. LRT access wasn't remarkably better, about 700m from Corona to the old office vs. 525m from Churchill to the new office.

kcantor · #**9504** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 1:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

5 out of 16 in the winter = 31%.

There weren't any changes at all when we moved to the new tower, all the drivers either adapted to the significantly higher parking rates or parked further out. LRT access wasn't remarkably better, about 700m from Corona to the old office vs. 525m from Churchill to the new office.

you’re correct - i didn’t use the part time transit rider so maybe 28% instead of 25 or 31. as for the distance to lrt, it’s not just the distance, it’s being able to do most of it inside instead of all of it outside.

DKaz · #**9505** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 10:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by kcantor

you’re correct - i didn’t use the part time transit rider so maybe 28% instead of 25 or 31. as for the distance to lrt, it’s not just the distance, it’s being able to do most of it inside instead of all of it outside.

Inside adds about 50 to 300m depending on how determined you are not to step outside at all. To stay completely inside, you have to go through Bell Tower, Edmonton Tower, JW Marriot, then backtrack to Stantec Tower. It's too bad they didn't build a pedway from Edmonton City Centre to Stantec Tower.

RetiredGuy · #**9506** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 10:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

While other cities are already ahead with smart fares, Edmonton Transit's entry into the 21st Century is delayed by a year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/smart-fare-delayed-edmonton-1.5439497

Very disappointing. I'm half expecting ETS to announce that the new route network will not be rolled out this September...

s211 · #**9507** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 11:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Or tear off paper transfers like it's 50 years ago. Mind you those magstripe paper tickets Vancouver's Translink had from 2001 to 2015 and took over a 2 seconds per passenger to read were worse, thank goodness they moved to Compass.

Wait, what? They still use paper transfers? Honest?

kcantor · #**9508** Posted **Jan 31, 2020, 4:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Inside adds about 50 to 300m depending on how determined you are not to step outside at all. To stay completely inside, you have to go through Bell Tower, Edmonton Tower, JW Marriot, then backtrack to Stantec Tower. It's too bad they didn't build a pedway from Edmonton City Centre to Stantec Tower.

agreed, although you’re only 1/2 block to city centre’s delta suites entrance which is a lot less convoluted although not 100% indoors.

DKaz · #**9509** Posted **Jan 31, 2020, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by kcantor

agreed, although you’re only 1/2 block to city centre’s delta suites entrance which is a lot less convoluted although not 100% indoors.

There were days where the windchill which seemed to magnified between the downtown buildings were so bad that the walk to Delta was horrible.

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Originally Posted by s211

Wait, what? They still use paper transfers? Honest?

Yea, but to be fair, Kelowna also uses paper transfers.

Should I not get you started that the LRT TVMs don't accept debit or credit cards?

s211 · #**9510** Posted **Jan 31, 2020, 3:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Should I not get you started that the LRT TVMs don't accept debit or credit cards?

Coldrsx · #**9511** Posted **Feb 4, 2020, 6:37 PM**

Gondola proposal squeaks through city council checkpoint, needs to meet six principles for further approval

DUSTIN COOK

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-n...meet-six-principles-for-further-approval

Airboy · #**9512** Posted **Feb 5, 2020, 6:18 PM**

https://access.stalbert.ca/cosa/news/highlights/yes-to-rtc/

St Albert says yes to regional transit commission.

Airboy · #**9513** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 5:19 PM**

Heavy and long lift crane now set up at the new river crossing.

Black Star · #**9514** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Airboy

Heavy and long lift crane now set up at the new river crossing.

Saw this today....massive.

kcantor · #**9515** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Black Star

Saw this today....massive.

DKaz · #**9516** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 12:01 AM**

Man the entire Valley Line LRT has been amateur hour in terms of construction and design. That bridge and the Whitemud overpass should've had steel beams and the elevated guideway should've been precast concrete segments strung together with post tension cables.

Slide · #**9517** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 3:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Man the entire Valley Line LRT has been amateur hour in terms of construction and design. That bridge and the Whitemud overpass should've had steel beams and the elevated guideway should've been precast concrete segments strung together with post tension cables.

Many of the infrastructure projects over the past decade have been amateur hour, I'm not surprised by your observation.

Some that immediately come to mind are:
- South LRT University Ave and 51 ave crossings.
- NAIT LRT
- Jasper ave renovation (7 years now, and the light standards are still not finished)
- Walterdale bridge, those beautiful weld plates

All these projects finished behind schedule too.

Hardhatdan · #**9518** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Man the entire Valley Line LRT has been amateur hour in terms of construction and design. That bridge and the Whitemud overpass should've had steel beams and the elevated guideway should've been precast concrete segments strung together with post tension cables.

I don't agree with anything you said when it comes the choice in construction methods.

Black Star · #**9519** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 4:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by Slide

Many of the infrastructure projects over the past decade have been amateur hour, I'm not surprised by your observation.

Some that immediately come to mind are:
- South LRT University Ave and 51 ave crossings.
- NAIT LRT
- Jasper ave renovation (7 years now, and the light standards are still not finished)
- Walterdale bridge, those beautiful weld plates

All these projects finished behind schedule too.

Agree 100%

Sometimes i don't mind a screw up as a sub engineering subcontractor if the advantage is to me.

But as a taxpayer

I did the hardness engineering on these plates. And this was also a gong show. Chuck barris would have been proud.

Our city council really has no clue.....they really don't. And this is a fact.

Black Star · #**9520** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 4:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by kcantor

Yup....thats it Ken.....good shot.

Where are those darn protesters now?

Oh i know!....lol