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Old Posted Jun 10, 2019, 10:35 PM
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Units are rented out or how much renters are willing to rent the unit for, not how much the owner bought it for. The money laundering talks are mostly nimby talking points who believe scapegoating minorities can slow developments in their neighborhoods. It might, to some extent, but it won't increase affordability for sure, nor is affordability their real concern.
In agreement here. Home prices and rents are only loosely related. Foreign buyers were likely decreasing rents.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2019, 12:46 AM
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Units are rented out or how much renters are willing to rent the unit for, not how much the owner bought it for. The money laundering talks are mostly nimby talking points who believe scapegoating minorities can slow developments in their neighborhoods. It might, to some extent, but it won't increase affordability for sure, nor is affordability their real concern.
True, but we're not talking about building nothing but rentals. Laundering/speculation/etc greatly affect strata housing and homeowners.

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In agreement here. Home prices and rents are only loosely related. Foreign buyers were likely decreasing rents.
I don't think we're on the same page; the foreign buyers in question (not immigrants) would be looking for condos and townhomes. Can't flip or launder an apartment.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2019, 1:07 AM
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I don't think we're on the same page; the foreign buyers in question (not immigrants) would be looking for condos and townhomes. Can't flip or launder an apartment.
Exactly. My post on The Independent thread:

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According to Craigslist, you can rent a 1 bedroom apartment in the hip new independent for $2500 anytime after June 20

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...908861552.html
Yikes. Lots of deep usable built in cabinetry and has a den but I still don't think it should be more than 1900; if that. No pets either.

Shows that pre sale prices were too high to be covered by renting in a market that has changed since these suites were sold. At the time it made financial sense to build a stunning showroom that would have made a beautiful house or retail space only to tear it down a few months later because if i remember correctly, the building was mostly sold out before the sales centre opened. The remaining suites had awful layouts like 2 bed suites starting at 646sf and a number of layouts that had windowless bedrooms... It will show more as more of these top of the market spec condo suites across the metro start coming online.

It's definitely gonna be more affordable to rent a new suite in a purpose built rental building instead of someones poor investment.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2019, 6:20 PM
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It's been a while - time for an update on Heather Place.
I stopped for a few snaps of Heather Place. Brick work has begun.

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Old Posted Jun 14, 2019, 7:19 PM
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Units are rented out or how much renters are willing to rent the unit for, not how much the owner bought it for. The money laundering talks are mostly nimby talking points who believe scapegoating minorities can slow developments in their neighborhoods. It might, to some extent, but it won't increase affordability for sure, nor is affordability their real concern.
Here we go agian, another person trying to sweep everything under the rug by playing the race card. Here's awake-up call for you, courtesy of this week's Macleans magazine. The Wang n' Zhang show:

Dirty money: it’s a Canadian thing
Canada’s housing markets are rife with shadowy buyers and greasy cash. B.C. was just the beginning.

On paper, Peter Zhang and his wife, Judy Wang, were models for the type of newcomers Canada wanted to attract with its immigrant investor program. Before it was scrapped in 2014, the program’s aim was simple: lure the world’s wealthy to Canada’s shores with the promise of a passport. In return they would bring their business savvy, invest in the economy and create jobs.

Zhang and Wang were undeniably rich. They arrived from China at the end of 2010 with at least $6 million, settling in the suburbs north of Toronto. But almost immediately after, a twisting tale was set in motion that would eventually see Wang accuse a realtor, a lawyer and others of fraud and negligence, and prompt an Ontario judge to raise questions about both the source of Zhang and Wang’s wealth and a string of real estate and mortgage transactions tied to the case.

At the start of 2011, the couple bought their first home, a six-bed, five-bath pile in Richmond Hill, Ont., for $1.25 million—and paid for it entirely in cash. By February, however, Zhang and Wang had separated, claiming in court that they divorced in 2013, though Ontario Superior Court Justice Paul Perell, in a November 2017 decision on a procedural matter in the lawsuit, described the divorce decree as “suspicious.” (In an email through her lawyer, Wang now says they divorced in June 2018.) Regardless, the pair continued to buy and develop three more Richmond Hill and nearby Thornhill properties together, largely in cash, through their joint company Yi Hao Investments. Wang bought a fourth property on her own in Vaughan with a 100 per cent loan-to-value mortgage from RBC in 2017. All told, she and Zhang bought five properties, worth $9.3 million at the time of purchase.

Aside from real estate, a considerable chunk of Zhang and Wang’s wealth was going to cover Zhang’s gambling activities. Over the next several years, Wang testified, she transferred up to $6 million to him from the sale of properties. (Justice Perell noted in his decision that neither Wang nor Zhang had any employment or business interests in Canada beyond real estate investing.) Meanwhile, the couple entered into a series of byzantine mortgage transactions with real estate agent Yan-Ling Ding and lawyer Rahul Kesarwani to generate cash for Zhang’s gambling. For instance, at one point, according to Justice Perell’s findings, Zhang’s ownership of Yi Hao was transferred to Ding to conceal Zhang’s identity so he could obtain a $900,000 mortgage from CIBC, while Kesarwani arranged a high-interest $150,000 private mortgage from his own firm for Zhang. (Ding and Kesarwani were offered the opportunity to comment through their lawyers but didn’t respond, while attempts to reach Zhang were unsuccessful. Through her lawyer, Wang said she was unable to provide contact information for Zhang “at this time.”)..

...But Justice Perell also raised questions that are increasingly being asked across the country in other cases: Where did the money come from, and how was it moved to Canada? Wang, on the advice of her lawyer, declined to answer those questions during her testimony. But in his decision, Perell highlighted the sworn testimony of several of the defendants. “[The defendants] believe that Mr. Zhang was a criminal who managed to get his wealth out of China to become a money launderer in Canada,” he wrote. “I make no finding other than saying that it is unknown how Ms. Wang and Mr. Zhang acquired their considerable wealth or how they got it out of China for investments in Canada.”....

.....“Everyone is interested now in how much of that money coming from China is legitimate,” says Christine Duhaime, a financial crime lawyer who has assisted Chinese companies in recovering money stolen from the country that found its way into Vancouver’s real estate market. China has long maintained capital controls that allow its citizens to exchange and withdraw only US$50,000 a year. Other than that, citizens need explicit approval to move their money out of the country.

To show how creative some are getting to circumvent those limits, which have grown more restrictive in recent years, Duhaime points to one case she’s aware of, in which a businessman in China loaded 180 employees onto buses, each carrying a duffle bag stuffed with US$50,000 in cash, and shuttled them to the bank. The employees deposited the money into their accounts and then wired the funds to their boss in Vancouver. The flurry of wire transfers failed to trigger any red flags at the Canadian bank, she says: “For too many years, the banking industry in Canada has taken a position that we don’t ask questions about the providence of money from China.”...


https://www.macleans.ca/economy/real...goes-national/

If anyoen can read that and still believe foreign money doesn't drive up prices and thereby increase rents, they would have to be incredibly dense.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2019, 1:30 AM
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the fact that you think rising property values causes rising rents pretty much shows how ignorant you are in the subject. Rising rents derive from competition for units available for rent, not how much its bought for. Not only have you not addressed this, but you also insist on posting irrelevant articles as if they back up your claim.

While the article makes heavy insinuation of criminal activity, Its painfully obvious that capital control by China isn't a Canadian law. In Canada, it's your right to spend your money abroad if you please. If you can't differentiate these basic points then you are really sabotaging yourself.

Are foreigners buying up some Vancouver properties? I bet. But zoning made housing investments particularly lucrative in Vancouver and everybody since their grandma has been capitalizing on this at the expense of others. Why not build more housing so prices and rents fall and investors come up empty-handed? We end up with more housing overall: good for renters, good for the economy, and good for the environment. The core goal of the recent Chinese-focused housing drama is exclusion. No renters in my hood, no new people or housing, no change to the status quo, its all Chinese/China's fault.

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Old Posted Jun 15, 2019, 3:39 AM
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the fact that you think rising property values causes rising rents pretty much shows how ignorant you are in the subject. Rising rents derive from competition for units available for rent, not how much its bought for. Not only have you not addressed this, but you also insist on posting irrelevant articles as if they back up your claim.

While the article makes heavy insinuation of criminal activity, Its painfully obvious that capital control by China isn't a Canadian law. In Canada, it's your right to spend your money abroad if you please. If you can't differentiate these basic points then you are really sabotaging yourself.

Are foreigners buying up some Vancouver properties? I bet. But zoning made housing investments particularly lucrative in Vancouver and everybody since their grandma has been capitalizing on this at the expense of others. Why not build more housing so prices and rents fall and investors come up empty-handed? We end up with more housing overall: good for renters, good for the economy, and good for the environment. The core goal of the recent Chinese-focused housing drama is exclusion. No renters in my hood, no new people or housing, no change to the status quo, its all Chinese/China's fault.
Yep every criminal basically launders money. Look at this guy, fentanyl dealer and money laundering through casinos. And he’s not chinese!

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2019/...oney-laundering-court-case-vancouver-bc/

And rents and prices are loosely related in that if prices are low building/buying rentals becomes more profitable. But we’ve put in rental restrictions so no one wants to invest in rentals even though prices are down some.

The city and province has screwed rents ownership so even at decreased prices the rental situation just gets worse.

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Old Posted Jun 17, 2019, 4:39 PM
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Yep every criminal basically launders money. Look at this guy, fentanyl dealer and money laundering through casinos. And he’s not chinese!

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2019/...oney-laundering-court-case-vancouver-bc/

And rents and prices are loosely related in that if prices are low building/buying rentals becomes more profitable. But we’ve put in rental restrictions so no one wants to invest in rentals even though prices are down some.

The city and province has screwed rents ownership so even at decreased prices the rental situation just gets worse.
Your rental comment is not true.
     
     
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Darren and I have certainly had some “unique” experiences since we began chronicling our city’s various engagement events. I like to think we have become pretty good at telling when a proposal is going to be meet with a nasty reception. That said, as the tone at the pre-application open house was so positive for these two Moderate Income Rental Housing Pilot Program proposals, we simply did not expect to see this level of vitriol.

After all, this area east of the Cassiar Tunnel has recently accepted a couple rental projects into the community. Naturally we expected two more buildings that offer 20% of their combined 212 homes to households making 30 – 70 thousand dollars a year would be similarly welcomed. They even match the scale of the area, as they are kitty corner to two even taller strata buildings in Burnaby.
https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2019/06/21...welcome-in-east-vancouver-neighbourhood/
     
     
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All of these MIRHPP developments need support and letter writting and public hearing support. All of them except for the 3 around Renfrew Station have been homeowner vs. renter arguments or preservationist. Most of the arguments unfortunately centre on more renters, singles, traffic, issues that are not associated with the building (neighbourhood improvements and road-use issues).
     
     
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Not sure if this belongs here, but Councillor Pete Fry is proposing the city reconsider the law allowing developers to avoid millions in taxes by designating vacant lots as community gardens. This follows a Sun expose story on how much revenue is being given up by the city.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/06/21/3066753/
     
     
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Not sure if this belongs here, but Councillor Pete Fry is proposing the city reconsider the law allowing developers to avoid millions in taxes by designating vacant lots as community gardens. This follows a Sun expose story on how much revenue is being given up by the city.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/06/21/3066753/
The News 1130 piece misses some of the complexity in Pete Fry's motion. If it's a topic that interests you, then you might like to read the motion. It's looking for a report back on the issue by the end of the year. It notes that last time Council examined the topic in 2009, it was agreed to leave the current situation in place (where BC Assessment reclassify vacant sites from Class 6 (Business, other) to Class 8 (Recreation), thus allowing the owners to pay less tax
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Above ground on the new mid-rise rental building at 1755 W..14th (at Burrard)

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Two highrises proposed for site across from Vancouver's Oakridge Centre
Polygon Oakridge Development Ltd. envisions mixed-use development at corner of Cambie and 41st
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Polygon Oakridge Development is proposed two highrises for a large block of land on Cambie Street between West 41st and West 42nd avenues in Vancouver, directly across from Oakridge Centre and the Oakridge Canada Line station.

The rezoning application for 5740 Cambie St. envisions a 14-storey market rental building at the corner of 41st and a 27-storey market condominium at the corner of 42nd. Commercial space would be at grade level. The proposed floor space ratio (FSR) is 8.61.






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https://www.westerninvestor.com/news/bri...m-vancouver-s-oakridge-centre-1.23867087
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Urban YVR has posted some new pics from Rize on the office building by Pacific Central Station:


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The Party (Bazaar) is over. Nice touch with their flag at half mast.

Click on the link in officedweller's post to see more renderings and a video.



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Any tenants known yet for Rize?
     
     
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13-storey apartment tower slated for Kingsway RONA site
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Cressey has filed a development application for a mixed-use building at Kingsway and Dumfries Street, on the site of a former RONA store.

The new building will have 154 units, including townhouses along Fleming St. and Dumfries St. It includes a six-storey podium with a 13-storey tower. It appears to be rental, although it’s not clear in the development application.

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https://urbanyvr.com/13-storey-apartment-tower-slated-for-kingsway-rona-site
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Daily Hive has more renderings and info on the Rona development.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1503-kingsway-vancouver-rona-proposal-june-2019
     
     
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