CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7

[west-town-brad]

Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

is that above or below average for this part of town? how many new units are there here?

summarizing as follows:

2018: 100+
2017: 50
2016: 25

so trending up.

2018 also saw 300 units sell in the range of $500k - $1mil. not sure of the trend on this range of prices.

[Ned.B]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

Or . . . put new density around an existing, underused CTA station.

The owner of the United Center chose to put it in the middle of his parking lot properties, rather than near a transit station. His descendants don't now deserve a big gift from the taxpayers.

The United Center, in the form of the Chicago Stadium has been in that location for 90 years now. I would assume it must have had ample transportation connecting to it back then. Was there once a Madison street L stop that was among the many that the CTA removed after they took over the system in the 1950s and 60s?

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by 10023

Really the whole area around the United Center should be a mini-node with higher density than the West Loop.

I agree with this, the IMD itself to the South of UC already has a node denser than the West Loop. It's only logical that Downtown should be allowed to spread West ward through the sea of vacant land in the West Loop and beyond around UC.

These comments about how putting a transit stop back where one used to stand being a handout to the Wirtz's are silly. The CTA should never have mutilated their network like they did in the first place. That doesn't mean the destruction of an entire neighborhood for parking was right either, but is it surprising when transit was being trashed?

The area around the United Center is as close to "well connected with transit" as any outlying neighborhood in the city. The Pink Line is the only line in the entire city that doesn't travel linearly to and from downtown. We should be taking advantage of that fact and building on the paulina connector to provide some semblance of North-South transit on the West side. My proposal has always been that the Paulina connector should be eventually connected via cut and cover subway under Ashland with the Blue Line at Division and then the Brown Line where it runs North South along Ashland. It should also probably be extended to connect with the Orange Line providing direct access to Midway from the entire West, Northwest, and North sides.

I can see something like the being built eventually especially if the West Loop boom continues to sprawl Westward. The kicker would be that an Ashland and Armitage station could be built on that line connecting the new Lincoln Yards transit desert and transferring to the Clyborn Metra. Sterling Bay should be forced to pay for a subway from Clyborn metra track station to the Blue Line and the city should cover the cost of adding L tracks along the Ravenswood Metra ROW from the Brownline to SB's new subway. We can worry about bridging the Blue Line with the Pink Line under Ashland later.

Originally Posted by west-town-brad

summarizing as follows:

2018: 100+
2017: 50
2016: 25

so trending up.

2018 also saw 300 units sell in the range of $500k - $1mil. not sure of the trend on this range of prices.

So 100% annual growth, pretty healthy if I do say so myself.

[OrdoSeclorum]

Originally Posted by ardecila

The Kinzie PMD was loosened between Ogden and Ashland recently, probably because planners (correctly) understand that Ashland/Lake is a transfer station and can accommodate denser office around it. The new zoning will allow office buildings up to an FAR of 3.0 and allow reasonable limits for restaurant and retail square footage. This will not allow full downtown zoning like east of Ogden, but will be more of a transition zone.

https://blog.chicagocityscape.com/propos...shland-but-still-no-housing-c4733f03414d

Things are obviously changing rapidly in this area. I know the Kinzie PMD is legacy zoning and I expect that it will change again. But it seems really dumb to essentially ban housing construction for a half mile north of an L-stop, especially one this close to the Loop.

There are like six brew pubs and tap rooms within 1200 feet of this stop. I know because I just walked to all of them. Plus you can walk to the Google office area or to the Medical District. And practically fall over into the Randolph street restaurant row area. I have to imagine than zoning is one of the only things keeping the land between Grand and Lake from rapidly becoming dense residential. I don't know what the right move is, but it doesn't seem optimal now.

[intrepidDesign]

Caisson drilling is imminent for 167 Green Street "the Mews". I wouldn't be surprised if they had already started as of writing this. Also at 17 stories and on the west side of Halsted? Not to poke a sleeping WLCO, but doesn't that break precedent?

[Rizzo]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

Or . . . put new density around an existing, underused CTA station.

The owner of the United Center chose to put it in the middle of his parking lot properties, rather than near a transit station. His descendants don't now deserve a big gift from the taxpayers.

You have this switched. Historically there was a station. And I’m sure if the hawks and bulls offered to pay up for one, it would be refused out of operational reasons and enhancements to nearby stations

[The Lurker]

Originally Posted by intrepidDesign

Caisson drilling is imminent for 167 Green Street "the Mews". I wouldn't be surprised if they had already started as of writing this. Also at 17 stories and on the west side of Halsted? Not to poke a sleeping WLCO, but doesn't that break precedent?

Maybe they're learning to choose their battles more wisely. There's no stopping this. Also, I think that in the same fashion they are in favor of more density abutting the freeways for noise control, they don't mind more density abutting the train lines.

[Mr Downtown]

There was a Met station at Madison until the Milwaukee subway opened in 1951. But the majority of folks going to the old Stadium used the Madison streetcar line, one of the city's heavy radial streetcar lines until growing auto traffic made them untenable. When Bill Wirtz decided to build United Center in the mid 1990s, there was no prospect of ever having service over that L line running above his parking lots. And that was just fine with him.

[Steely Dan]

^ well dollar bill is dead, service has been restored to the paulina connector, and an intelligent, forward-thinking city would prioritize building a VERY easily added rapid transit stop adjacent to a 20,000 capacity arena that hosts over 200 events a year instead of getting bogged down in finger-pointing at history's mistakes.

but this is chicago we're talking about.......

[Tom In Chicago]

^Yeah. . . as far as new El station projects, this one seems like low hanging fruit. . .

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[marothisu]

2 new buildings from Sterling Bay in the West Loop. Actually, Wanxiang is the majority owner in this (over 70% ownership) while SB is minority owner, but Sterling Bay is developing it. Wanxiang is a Chinese automotive company whose North American HQ is in the Chicago area and they have a real estate arm. Actually, they own 1K Fulton where Google is HQ, as well as Ace Hotel across the street. I'm curious if part of this has anything to do with the Google expansion?


1000 W Carroll (Carroll & between Morgan and Carpenter). Across from Google. Office use - 18 stories, 288 feet tall. 144 parking spaces, with retail.

Current: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1000+W...cc9682c44!8m2!3d41.8881457!4d-87.6528844




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345 N Morgan Street (Morgan & Carroll). Across the street from building above and diaganol from Google building. Office uses. 11 stories, 178 feet with 37 parking spaces. With retail.

Current: https://www.google.com/maps/place/345+N+...ef4be7288!8m2!3d41.8882009!4d-87.6518676

[marothisu]

Clybourn & Larrabee. 18 or 19 floors, 550 units with 0 parking spaces and ground floor retail/commercial. 228 feet in height - mixed-income housing. Currently this is vacant land (https://www.google.com/maps/place/N+Clyb...bfff00951!8m2!3d41.9064484!4d-87.6432855). This looks like Phase 1 in a 4 phase development that will fill up the entirety of that land up to Blackhawk, right next to the New City development. The other 3 phases look like all residential and green space.

[k1052]

Originally Posted by intrepidDesign

Caisson drilling is imminent for 167 Green Street "the Mews". I wouldn't be surprised if they had already started as of writing this. Also at 17 stories and on the west side of Halsted? Not to poke a sleeping WLCO, but doesn't that break precedent?

Office developments, in general, don’t seem to attract nearly the same level of hostility from them that hotel or residential projects do.

[marothisu]

Apparently there's a 20 story, 250 foot hotel proposed for 920 W Lake St (Lake & Sangamon) which is currently a parking lot, and right near the Morgan train stop.

[BonoboZill4]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Apparently there's a 20 story, 250 foot hotel proposed for 920 W Lake St (Lake & Sangamon) which is currently a parking lot, and right near the Morgan train stop.

You hit it big with the updates today marothisu! I always love when you add in the google street view. Lets me do some mental mapping of how it'll look

That part of the West Loop is really starting to get some fluidity on the street level if all those are built. It's getting quite pedestrian friendly, even more so once they do that sidewalk rehab near there too! So exciting

[rgarri4]

Agreed. Today's updates have been amazing. Super excited for what that 4 phase Clybourn & Larrabee development will shape up to be.

[emathias]

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

A year or two from now, when the Bentham is finished, I want to see a before and after photo of that block. The Marlowe, Cedar St Lofts, and Bentham all built in a 3-4 year timeframe. Can we get that on a few more blocks in River North?

The block north of there, bounded by Huron, Superior, LaSalle and Wells had a similar transformation. And the block east of that, LaSalle, Clark, Superior and Huron is almost as renewed. The block North that only needs the NW corner of Clark and Superior, and the currency exchange at Chicago/Lasalle filled in. The block at Wells, Hubbard, Kinzie, and Franklin is way different now, as is Dearborn, Hubbard, Kinzie, and Clark.

But yeah, I look forward to all the blocks along the West side of the Brown Line North of Ohio filling in, since every one of those blocks all the way to Division has at least one surface lot on it with the exception of Superior/Chicago and Locust/Walton. Also look forward to something being done with Ohio House and Best Western, and the blocks on the NW and SE corners of Wells/Chicago.

But it's still amazing how much the whole area South of Chicago Ave has blossomed in the past two decades. And even in spots as far north as North Ave.

[harryc]

Originally Posted by intrepidDesign

Caisson drilling is imminent for 167 Green Street "the Mews". I wouldn't be surprised if they had already started as of writing this. Also at 17 stories and on the west side of Halsted? Not to poke a sleeping WLCO, but doesn't that break precedent?

March 10




Almost ...... No caisson drills yet

March 11

[IrishIllini]

The permit drawings for the development at Clybourn and Larrabee are poor quality to say the least, haha. I can barely tell it’s a building.

[BVictor1]

800 West Fulton Community Meeting


-Tuesday, March 12, 2019

-SOM designed building

-Thor Equities (Developers)

-NW corner of Fulton & Halsted

-36 below grade parking spaces (100 bike spots)

-19 stories - 300’0

-In downtown expansion area

-11.5 FAR

-About 25,000 sq ft of retail

-50’ lobby (off Green Street)

-Currently no tenant signed up

-18 to 22 month construction