Winnipeg Construction IX

[Likka]

Originally Posted by Riverman

— just blows my mind. Lessons in statistics should begin in first grade. Nobody would — if they understood probababilities.

There are continual radio ads here for casinos in Ajax, Ptbo and Niagra. Big business I guess.

its an addiction, just like — and drugs.

[Likka]

Originally Posted by esquire

If it's going to exist anyway, then it's awesome that — is mainly provincially operated. It's a hugely profitable industry... why should that money be sent to shareholders in Las Vegas, New York or who knows where as opposed to staying in the province where it can be used for schools, hospitals and roads?

Considering most people that are regulars are poor, and disproportionately Aboriginal, its a terrible idea. McPhillips Street Station was opened around 1993, coincidentally, the area around the casino deteriorated to the point where gangs became a big problem for Winnipeg. The North End felt the brunt end of the — boom.

However, if it builds schools in Tuxedo and roads in South Fort Garry, why not?

[esquire]

^ From what I can tell, casinos don't seem to be disproportionately built on the backs of Indigenous people. If there is any particular demographic that seems overrepresented in there, it's elderly people... old people of every kind are in there in droves. Those places are like giant community centres for old folks.

[1ajs]

casinos are a tax on boardem for old people mostly. rather depressing when ive gone into either one just how many are just old people dropping blindly into them. least its money that stays in the province vs privit coffers leaving manitoba but still one of the most depressing places ive been rank it right up there with working at tele solutions....

and enough with the racist native comments and casinos

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Likka

Considering most people that are regulars are poor, and disproportionately Aboriginal, its a terrible idea. McPhillips Street Station was opened around 1993, coincidentally, the area around the casino deteriorated to the point where gangs became a big problem for Winnipeg. The North End felt the brunt end of the — boom.

However, if it builds schools in Tuxedo and roads in South Fort Garry, why not?

Funny though the majority of patrons aren’t First Nations but a different ethnic group who overwhelming are in the work force and mostly own their own homes.

And yet the neighbourhoods of the cities other casino saw no increase in crime, hate to burst your bubble but the north end was crime infested and had deteriorated a long time before any casino came along!

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

right up there with working at tele solutions....

OHHH MY GAWD!!! Worst place ever... I worked for them for like two months back in high school when they were out in transcona... they took me off the schedule for booking off my 18th birthday... when I asked them why, they told me “when I was ready to work I could come back” I started laughing... such losers... the two — that ran that place dated every teenager they could. Losers.

[LilZebra]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ From what I can tell, casinos don't seem to be disproportionately built on the backs of Indigenous people. If there is any particular demographic that seems over represented in there, it's elderly people... old people of every kind are in there in droves. Those places are like giant community centres for old folks.

What ever happened to playing Bridge with your senior friends?

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Hecate

OHHH MY GAWD!!! Worst place ever... I worked for them for like two months back in high school when they were out in transcona... they took me off the schedule for booking off my 18th birthday... when I asked them why, they told me “when I was ready to work I could come back” I started laughing... such losers... the two — that ran that place dated every teenager they could. Losers.

they still bunch of loosers i worked a month there in 2011 most depressing job ever data mining people to sign up for pheanix online and those other webbased schools from data mined off fake job sites

[blueandgoldguy]

It's no coincidence the two major casinos in Winnipeg are located where they are - Transcona /East Kildonan and the North End...or at least near the North End. Both working class and lower income areas. There certainly aren't any casinos being built in the south end of the city...nor will there be in the future.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by Hecate

OHHH MY GAWD!!! Worst place ever... I worked for them for like two months back in high school when they were out in transcona... they took me off the schedule for booking off my 18th birthday... when I asked them why, they told me “when I was ready to work I could come back” I started laughing... such losers... the two — that ran that place dated every teenager they could. Losers.

Where were they out in Transcona? I know they were on Henderson Hwy in Elmwood before they moved over to Main St.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

It's no coincidence the two major casinos in Winnipeg are located where they are - Transcona /East Kildonan and the North End...or at least near the North End. Both working class and lower income areas. There certainly aren't any casinos being built in the south end of the city...nor will there be in the future.

They built both of the casinos within a stone's throw of the former MLC bingo halls that used to exist in those areas. The two new casinos were held out for political reasons in the early 90s as being not much more than bigger, new and improved bingo halls but the reality quickly became apparent.

For what it's worth, for many years the only casino in town was downtown (the temporary convention centre casino, followed by the Crystal Casino). I would think that if and when indigenous interests can get the green light for a casino in or around Winnipeg, that it would go somewhere on the southern side of the city... I wouldn't rule out the Kapyong site for that. Although I suppose Assiniboia Downs is a possibility as well.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by cllew

Where were they out in Transcona? I know they were on Henderson Hwy in Elmwood before they moved over to Main St.

They started out in the back of some office for a heating and cooling company or something like that, I think their parents owned it. It was just off Dugald rd. I think it was on Bournais, they were there for a while then they moved to a bigger location in the same strip mall. I was fired just after the move. Then they moved to Henderson, then main. It used to be called B&B telesomething... we called people and basically tricked people into telling us if they had a credit card and if they did we would tell them they were eligible for some sweepstakes, then we’d try to sell them magazines... it was a horrible job. that would have been 2000.

[Biff]

I love this proposal for Quebec City and think it would look beautiful on the triangle surface lot east of the Burt.

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

Québec City

[esquire]

^ The scale is bang on for that location.

I always daydreamed about something Lever House-like for the triangle...

[Wolf13]

Originally Posted by Likka

its an addiction, just like — and drugs.

It CAN be an addiction...

I'm probably a more sympathetic person in real life than I appear on this board, but we've been conditioned to immediately acknowledge any possible addiction in the room and regurgitate it without thinking.

It's good that enough of the stigma over various addictions or struggles is lifted so we can talk about it. Still, we have to explore capability and responsibility just as much as addiction if we're going to create an all encompassing social position on the world's growing myriad of addictions.

Not speaking specifically to the casinos here, just to the quote.

Originally Posted by 1ajs

casinos are a tax on boardem for old people mostly. rather depressing when ive gone into either one just how many are just old people dropping blindly into them. least its money that stays in the province vs privit coffers leaving manitoba but still one of the most depressing places ive been rank it right up there with working at tele solutions....

and enough with the racist native comments and casinos

Two questions/points

1. Why is it bad that a private entity would profit over a public, and why would it bother anyone?. Why is it inherently good that the province gets the money? Do we appropriately evaluate their ability to manage money?

2. Maybe I missed it, but who said anything racist? Unfortunately there are addiction problems in any group, but certainly also native groups. It's fair and should be permissible to say that.

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

It's no coincidence the two major casinos in Winnipeg are located where they are - Transcona /East Kildonan and the North End...or at least near the North End. Both working class and lower income areas. There certainly aren't any casinos being built in the south end of the city...nor will there be in the future.

Land availability, ease of access (regent and lag, kinda), land value all probably played a larger role than targeting the working class...

So did public approval. Chances are southern wpg residents would shoot a casino down harder.

I could be wrong, just not that cynical about the locations.

One can easily make the case that Club Regent gave transcona a major retail/entertainment destination, and that certainly would help the businesses around it.

[BAKGUY]

Originally Posted by Biff

I love this proposal for Quebec City and think it would look beautiful on the triangle surface lot east of the Burt.

That would look anywhere in Winnipeg. if downtown a bit taller

[BAKGUY]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ The scale is bang on for that location.

I always daydreamed about something Lever House-like for the triangle...

also nice. Would like to see a few of these downtown

[BigG]

Piles have and are being driven just north of Cabela's beside the new hotel. Anyone know what that might be?

[ediger]

Originally Posted by Likka

its an addiction, just like — and drugs.

That's an awfully narrow view. A couple of times a year I like to go to the casino, have a few drinks and play a few games. Sometimes my night ends up paid for through winnings, sometimes the night costs $100 or so. Nothing wrong with that every now and then. For some people it can become an issue but like any addictive activity, there's plenty of people that participate casually.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by BigG

Piles have and are being driven just north of Cabela's beside the new hotel. Anyone know what that might be?

The Rec Room by Cineplex.