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Having listened to people with mobility issues, anywhere which requires parking a couple of blocks away means that they cannot go there.
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Having listened to people with mobility issues, anywhere which requires parking a couple of blocks away means that they cannot go there.
The city has pretty generous rules if you have an accessible parking permit. You can park in any "No parking" zones for up to four hours, parking time limits are extended automatically to four hours, you can load and unload in no stopping zones (incl bus lanes and bike lanes) and you can park at pay and display spots for free.
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Here's more on Dreessen's "vision" for the Byward Market:

Website: https://www.architectsdca.com/create-a-better-byward-market/

PDF: https://www.architectsdca.com/wp-content...y-Reclaiming-City-Streets-for-People.pdf

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Local architect pitches dream vision for ByWard Market with more focus on pedestrians

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: October 30, 2018




A local architect is challenging people to think about how the ByWard Market can be more pedestrian friendly through a concept he put together on his own time, simply because he loves the place.

Toon Dreessen, president of Architects DCA, unveiled his vision Tuesday at the central ByWard Market building, emphasizing the need to reduce car traffic in one of the city’s main tourist attractions.

“When it’s dominated by parking, that’s the issue, and that’s where I’m really struggling,” Dreessen said.

He proposes closing some streets as a trial, such as ByWard Market Square and William Street and part of Clarence Street, and removing the surface parking. If parking garages fill up, maybe more people will take the Confederation Line LRT to the market, he said.

Using signs pointing to where people can leave their cars can combat motorists’ fear of losing parking, Dreessen said.

City hall has its own study happening on how to improve the market’s public realm.

Jeff Darwin, the executive director of Ottawa Markets, the municipal services corporation tasked with running the ByWard and Parkdale markets, said Dreessen’s work complements the city’s study.

Darwin said Dreessen’s vision matches his own ideas for the future of the market, especially when it comes to reconciling the conflict between pedestrians and cars.

“It’s just a bad mix. We’ve got too many cars, too many people in too small of an area,” Darwin said.

Darwin said motorists want to park in their favourite spots in front of their destinations, but they have to get over that way of thinking.

“They’re still welcome here. There’s tons of parking,” Darwin said. “The experience the world over has been, more people will come if they feel safe and they can get around on foot and they’ll spend more, and there will be just more people in general.”

The prospect of removing surface parking is still a major concern for retailers in the market, according to another business leader.

Jasna Jennings, executive director of the ByWard Market BIA, has seen plenty of studies on the market in her time with the organization, but she feels there’s momentum from the community and city hall to finally make something big happen.

Her one request to anyone making proposals is to be flexible and to understand that there could be limitations. Ottawa is different in the “tulips-to-leaves” season compared with the rest of the year, she said.

“We are a winter city, so rainbows and butterflies and comparing us to other places doesn’t necessarily work here,” Jennings said.

She said there’s a pedestrian-focused potential for York Street, but not necessarily when it’s bone-chilling cold in January and people might appreciate surface parking near their destinations.

Dreessen’s vision includes something the city has considered before, but lacks the funding: removing the main parking garage off Clarence Street and constructing an underground parking facility.

Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury, who recently won re-election on a pledge to beautify the market, said the incoming city council needs to make a big investment in the district, in addition to modest improvements made during the current term.

“I expect continued capital investment over four years, somewhere in the range of $8 million to $10 million a year, to sustain those improvements,” Fleury said.

Fleury said he’ll ask the next council, which takes office Dec. 1, to make the market a priority for the four-year term.

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We have 2 city-owned garages on Clarence (281 + 461 spaces) sitting half-empty after 5 and on weekends (I have hourly occupancy data over the past 2 months). Not to mention private ones. Quite a waste if you ask me.
There is no need for on-street parking.
Half empty is of course half full. Weekends and evenings people search for the free parking. If these people spent $100 a pop in your business you would of course also want on street parking. Why not just let the merchants validate and give people free parking in the lots. Yes it is pro car and blah blah but if we could get the BAA to agree to close off some of the streets it would be worth it. Sure maybe we should ignore them and do it anyway but not going to happen in this city.

Ideally I would build an underground parking below York street. Charge enough during office hours to pay for itself and lower prices and validation on weekends and evenings. Maybe free in winter.

The other problem with the market is it is all produce. I was in several European markets this summer and the successful ones all also sell some ready to eat food. So the fruit sellers sell smoothies. The meat places sell little cups of serrano ham etc. Also don't know why we care if the seller themselves is selling the produce? Pretty slim pickings 9 months of the year when nothing is in season in Ottawa.
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I am not sure most of the businesses would want to pay for their customer’s parking. At Landsdowne only a few do.
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Was this a commissioned study or goodwill?

All of it about parking and nothing more. Nothing about lowering restrictions on street performers and vendors? Nothing about what people will see or do once they've arrived into the market from whatever mode of transport? What they will see in the winter versus what they will see in the summer? Nothing about making improvements so there is less aggressive panhandling?

No Cars and less parking nearby. That's the vision. Hmmm.
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I am not sure most of the businesses would want to pay for their customer’s parking. At Landsdowne only a few do.
Whole Foods, Sporting Life, the theatre. Not sure if any restaurants do.
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I think part of the problem is (private) parking pricing that is inflexible to time of use demand.

I have no problem with the rates at the city garages ($6max at the market garage, $4 at dalhousie, free at city hall) after hours, but there's a bunch of private lots that definitely have capacity but simply charge too much. We need some sort of mechanism to get private lot operators to prioritize utilization% from 6pm-6am and on weekends.
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Ottawa's 'tired' ByWard Market building requires more than $1M in short-term repairs

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 21, 2019


The city-owned heritage building in the heart of the ByWard Market requires more than $1 million in short-term fixes, but the chairman of Ottawa Markets is confident the money is available to make the necessary repairs on a key asset now under the organization’s oversight.

A consultant’s December 2016 audit obtained under access-to-information law reveals the maintenance requirements for 20 years, with the document recommending the critical work needed over the next three years at 55 ByWard Market Square.

The audit by Morrison Hershfield happened just over one year before Ottawa Markets took over oversight of the ByWard Market and Parkdale Market as a municipal service corporation. The arm’s-length Ottawa Markets has been in operation since the beginning of 2018.

At the time of building audit, the elements in most dire need of fixing included the steel windows, the membrane and weather-proofing on the north and south sides of the roof, the skylights, the steel nosing on the stairs and some of the rooftop mechanical equipment.

The consultant identified nearly $4.5 million in required maintenance over the next 20 years. Of that, the suggested repairs between 2017 and 2019 add up to $1.056 million.

Peter Hume, chair of the Ottawa Markets board of directors, said the organization plans to spend about $570,000 between 2018 and 2019 on required maintenance, focusing on building-code and safety-related issues. The building audit identified about $108,000 in recommended work alone on “life safety” elements, such as the fire alarm control panel and emergency lighting.

The building audit also points out some low-cost aesthetic fixes that would help the building, such as the mismatched tiles on the ground floor, which the consultant characterized as “poorly executed repairs.”

The building audit concluded that, overall, the building is in “fair” condition, meaning there’s a lot of minor maintenance required and operating the building as it sits today could be expensive.

Ottawa Markets’ revenue comes from tenant rent payments at the city-owned market buildings, which includes the parking and commercial building on Clarence Street.

Hume said he’s confident that the city will cough up funds to help pay for some of the more major repairs needed on the 93-year-old central building, leaving the “granular” work up to Ottawa Markets.

“If we’ve got mission-critical issues, they’re going to be dealt with,” Hume said.

City economic development officer Brian Simpson said the city has a life-cycle renewal program to address issues identified in the building audit and those flagged by Ottawa Markets.

“For some projects, the associated funds will be transferred to Ottawa Markets to carry out the work and, for others, the city will retain the funds to carry out the work, as determined and agreed to by the city and Ottawa Markets,” Simpson said in an email relayed by communications officer Carly Wolff.

The city’s 2018 budget set aside $600,000 for fixes to the central market building. Ottawa Markets is still waiting for the money to flow from city hall.

Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury said the city and Ottawa Markets should guard against money being poured into life-cycle maintenance when there could be a plan for long-term changes afoot.

“Let’s not be distracted by the life cycle,” Fleury said. “This building needs a vision.”

Hume said not only does the organization have to respond to today’s maintenance needs, it has to come up with a plan for long-term success.

The city expects Ottawa Markets to figure out a way to fund and manage improvements to the building, Hume said. There could be answers when Ottawa Markets provides its next update to council, likely in the spring or early summer.

“I would suspect you would see improvements and investment in the building,” Hume said, adding there are restrictions when trying to improve an old building.

“It is a heritage building. We’re not going to drop a glass tower on it or anything crazy,” he said.

The central building has a long history as an anchor of the ByWard Market. The current building dates back to 1926. It replaced a fire-destroyed building constructed 78 years earlier. There were three major renovation projects in 1977, 1989 and 1996.

The building overall could use a revamp, Hume said.

“To be generous, it’s tired,” he said.

Some of the upgrades could help the day-to-day operations of the building and improve the service to the public.

Hume said Ottawa Markets wants to spend $200,000 on a ground-level garbage room to avoid people having to lug trash up from the basement level on collection days.

There could also be better access to public washrooms. Most of the building’s action happens on the ground floor where all the retail is, but the washrooms, inconveniently, are on the second floor.

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What is wrong with this guy!? Let's not maintain the building because we might maybe have other plans later? Whatever you might change in terms of function doesn't change the fact that the building needs basic life-cycle maintenance.

Everything he's done and said over the last few years has been complete garbage. Constantly selling out his own ward.
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What is wrong with this guy!? Let's not maintain the building because we might maybe have other plans later? Whatever you might change in terms of function doesn't change the fact that the building needs basic life-cycle maintenance.

Everything he's done and said over the last few years has been complete garbage. Constantly selling out his own ward.
I get the idea that if they are going to tear it down in a few years, then they should be careful on what maintenance they do. But if they don't tear it down, not doing maintenance now could result in an even bigger bill later. Until a plan is in place, you need to do basic upkeep.
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That's arguable the top City owned heritage building. It won't get torn down unless they decide against maintaining it and it falls victim to another demolition by neglect.

Fleury was fighting another move a few weeks ago. Not related to the Market, but worth mentioning;

The City has a deal with the Ottawa Inn Motel on Montreal Road for temporary housing. It's costing the City $100 per day, $3000 per month. Often times, the City has to rent multiple rooms for big families.

The owner of the Motel bought a few derelict buildings around and renovated the apartments at his own expense to rent out to the City as temporary housing. He's again charging the City $100 a night, for an entire apartment. Same as the motel rooms.

These apartments save the City thousands of dollars per month and ensure that these families have a proper apartment where they can all fit together and enjoy the convenience of their own kitchen and increased privacy.

Fleury is raising a red flag because $3000 a month is double the cost of an average apartment in Ottawa. So he was fine with paying $3000 per motel room, but not for a full apartment. The guy is a motel operator. He bought these apartments and renovated them at his own expense to help the City's housing crisis. He's charging the same as the motel rooms.

Fleury argues that the money should be spent on permanent housing. It never was and won't be even if we cancel this deal with Ottawa Inn. It will just reduce our stock of emergency housing.

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That's arguable the top City owned heritage building. It won't get torn down unless they decide against maintaining it and it falls victim to another demolition by neglect.
Then I have no idea why he wouldn't want to do the renovations.
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This one here. The very heart of the ByWard Market. Check out the Heritage Ottawa link for a summary of its history.


https://heritageottawa.org/50years/byward-market-building
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This one here. The very heart of the ByWard Market. Check out the Heritage Ottawa link for a summary of its history.


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Thanks for posting that as a reminder of how decent it looks on the outside. It's horrible on the inside IMO.
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Thanks for posting that as a reminder of how decent it looks on the outside. It's horrible on the inside IMO.
I agree. The interior needs some aesthetically work.
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Fire department 'takes control' of major ByWard Market restaurant fire, chief says

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Updated: April 12, 2019




Ottawa fire Chief Kim Ayotte says the service has “taken control” of a major blaze in the ByWard Market Friday afternoon, centred at the well-known Vittoria Trattoria restaurant.

However, the department still has a few hours work ahead inside the building battling flames.

The chief made the announcement at about 2:30 p.m., almost three-and-a-half hours after the blaze began in the building at 35 William St.

Crews still face work battling hotspots and searching for possible fire spread.

At about 1 p.m., the force declared a fourth alarm on the blaze.

Patrons and employees are all out of the building, the fire department reports. There have been no major injuries reported.

Crews from about two dozen rigs were divided fighting flames on several fronts, fighting both the fire on the roof and protecting adjacent structure.

By 2 p.m., crews had shut down exterior lines, reported Vito Pilieci from the scene. Some firefighters were seen pulling down parts of the roof with specialized tools.

The crews were moving inside to battle flames.

Up until then, crews had largely been engaged in a “defensive” attack to try to contain the fire.

Earlier, Ottawa fire reported that the blaze was spreading from a common attic to two attached buildings.

Firefighting crews were evacuated from the rooftop and interior due to “rapidly deteriorating conditions.”

Almost all of the Market was cordoned off to give firefighters space. A number of nearby buildings were also evacuated as a precaution, including the George Street offices of CTV news and related media.

Firefighters at the scene reported “incredible” smoke levels from the roof of the buildings.

The streets in the area were ankle-deep in water, Vito Pilieci reported from the scene.

Shortly before 1 p.m., as the battle wore on, crews reported they were losing water pressure due to the large number of hoses at the scene, including high-power streams from the ladder trucks. Crews began connecting to hydrants further away.

Water problems cropped up again at about 2 p.m. and officials discussed extending to another water grid.

While there was no official word on damages, the buildings stretching from Vittoria Trattoria up to and including the Crocs store appeared to be heavily damaged by smoke and/or fire, reported Vito Pilieci at the scene.

“It’s like a pile of match sticks,” Pilieci messaged. “(Firefighters) are ripping through oxygen tanks.”

A number of people were seen “live-streaming” the fire over their cellphones.

Firefighting operations knocked out power to a small number of customers in the Market area.


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Damage from ByWard Market restaurant fire pegged at $2M

Andrew Duffy, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: April 12, 2019


Water poured down the front steps of Vittoria Trattoria restaurant late Friday in the devastating aftermath of a four-alarm fire that gutted the historic building in the ByWard Market.

Two fire investigators were on scene to determine the cause of the blaze, which is believed to have started in the roof area of the century-old, two-storey stone building.

Roofers were doing work on the building when the fire broke out Friday morning, according to Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, who expressed immense relief that the blaze didn’t claim more of the city’s heritage district.

“The fear I had when I was watching this from City Hall was that it would spread so quickly because these old buildings are filled with a lot of wood,” Watson told reporters as he toured the scene Friday afternoon.

“We’re very grateful that no one was injured. The fire department did an amazing job.”

Damage was estimated at more than $2 million to the William Street restaurant — opened in 1996, Vittoria Trattoria had more than 800 labels in its wine cellar — and to neighbouring buildings to the south.

Dozens of shops were forced to close, including those in ByWard Market Square across the street, while more than 100 firefighters battled to bring the fire under control.

At its height, in early afternoon, the fire blanketed the market with dark smoke and brought hundreds of spectators to the scene in one of Ottawa’s oldest neighbourhoods.

Ottawa Fire Services had received a flood of 911 calls about smoke and flame coming from a building at 35 William St., just south of York Street, starting at 11:18 a.m.

Three minutes after the first crews arrived — three pumpers and two ladder trucks — they declared a two-alarm fire, which brought still more crews.

Initially, firefighters sought to control the spread of the blaze from Vittoria Trattoria with an aggressive attack with crews inside and on the building’s roof.

Firefighters on the roof made a “trench cut” — a long narrow ventilation hole cut with saws — in an attempt to isolate the fire from neighbouring buildings, while interior crews sought to suppress the blaze.

However, the fire was firmly established in the building’s cockloft: the small attic space created by its shallow, angled roof.

At 11:47 a.m., the incident commander, District Chief Michael Byron, ordered all fire crews to evacuate the building when he recognized signs of an imminent roof collapse.

“That’s when the operations shifted from an offensive attack to a defensive attack,” Ottawa Fire Services spokeswoman Danielle Cardinal said.

At that point, fire crews worked to douse the blaze from the street and from ladders. The building’s roof soon collapsed.

A third-alarm was declared at 11:56 a.m. At 1:06 p.m., a rare fourth alarm was issued to bring still more resources to the fire scene.

At one point, four ladder trucks were working on the fire with a fifth ladder truck on standby in case one of the others ran into mechanical difficulties.

During the height of the action, Ottawa Fire Services had 30 rigs and more than 100 firefighters engaged in the battle.

At times, fire crews would stop spraying water to allow masked firefighters time to enter the building and identify hot spots before resuming their suppression efforts.

Cardinal said the operation was complicated by the age of the building — the roof had several layers, which allowed the fire to spread — and its proximity to adjacent buildings.

The fire was declared under control at 2:57 p.m.

“I’m very proud of Ottawa firefighters who worked swiftly and diligently,” Ottawa Fire Chief Kim Ayotte said.

The building immediately north of the restaurant, including Vineyards Wine Bar Bistro and The Fish Market, is separated from Vittoria Trattoria by a narrow alley. That alleyway likely saved those restaurants from serious damage.

Two buildings to the south of Vittoria Trattoria — a vape shop and an empty building now for rent — had extensive fire, smoke and water damage.

Two other businesses further south on William Street also had smoke damage that was to be further assessed on Saturday.

Late Friday, two fire crews were extinguishing hotspots at the scene. A fire watch was to be posted all night in case the blaze rekindled.

Blue tarpaulins covered two cars parked on William Street in front of Vittoria Trattoria, which had water pouring from its front doors. All three of its second-storey windows were shattered. Much of its roof was gone, and blackened roofing materials littered the neighbourhood.

George Street and York Street reopened Friday night, but it was expected that William Street would remain closed into Saturday morning.

The fire investigators — one each from the Ottawa Fire Service and the Office of the Fire Marshall — were to return Saturday to continue their probe into what triggered the blaze.

With files from Postmedia staff


What is a four-alarm fire?

Ottawa’s multiple-alarm fire system allows an incident commander to get the resources needed to a fire scene quickly.

Four-alarm fires, like the one declared Friday in the ByWard Market, are rare.

A “working” fire is considered a one-alarm fire and it will bring to the scene four pumpers, another for “accountability” — tracking where every firefighter goes — two ladder companies and a rapid intervention team to rescue anyone who gets into trouble.

A second alarm brings two more pumpers and an additional ladder company.

Each additional rise in the alarm level brings more fire service resources to control a blaze.

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'We can't sit back': Vittoria Trattoria to re-emerge soon as 'pop up' after ByWard Market fire

James Bagnall, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: April 13, 2019


Much as Friday’s fire shocked him, Domenic Santaguida, co-owner of the heavily damaged Vittoria Trattoria restaurant in the ByWard Market, recognizes he is in some respects fortunate.

“We’ve been in business for 27 years,” he said Saturday, “so we’ve got enough working capital to support a Plan B”.

Just what that plan entails is still unclear, he said, but it could involve installing “pop up” locations in the ByWard Market — renting space here and there to serve his customers and provide at least some employment for the 50 or so who worked at 35 William St., the site of the fire.

This could tide things over for the eight to 12 months Santaguida anticipates it will take to restore things to normal.

Santaguida met first thing Saturday with his two partners — family member Stacey Santaguida and Harjeet Singh — to assess next steps.

Ottawa Fire Services was doing an assessment of the damage done to the Vittoria Trattoria restaurant on Saturday, but the precise cause remained unknown. “I don’t want to speculate,” Santaguida said.

Roofers were doing work on the building when the fire broke out Friday morning, according to Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, who expressed immense relief that the blaze didn’t claim more of the city’s heritage district.

“The fear I had when I was watching this from City Hall was that it would spread so quickly because these old buildings are filled with a lot of wood,” Watson told reporters as he toured the scene Friday afternoon.

“We’re very grateful that no one was injured. The fire department did an amazing job.”

Damage was estimated at more than $2 million to the William Street restaurant and to neighbouring buildings to the south.

The building immediately north of the restaurant, including Vineyards Wine Bar Bistro and The Fish Market, is separated from Vittoria Trattoria by a narrow alley. That alleyway likely saved those restaurants from serious damage.

Two buildings to the south of Vittoria Trattoria — a vape shop and an empty building now for rent — had extensive fire, smoke and water damage.

Santaguida was waiting to hear from his insurance firm about exactly what would be covered. He believed certain key employees would continue to receive salary under the policy, but most workers will have to be laid off. Temporarily he hopes.

“We’ve got two other locations,” Santaguida said, “so we have some flexibility with employees.” Vittoria in the Village is located in Westboro, while the third restaurant overlooks Riverside Drive near Hunt Club.

“We can’t sit back and wait for things to happen,” Santaguida added, after discussing options with his partners.

With files from Andrew Duffy and Postmedia staff.

https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local...-soon-as-pop-up-after-byward-market-fire
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