Calgary International Airport II

[YYCFlier]

Originally Posted by BennyG102

For the Summer 2019, it looks like Aeromexico May 31st to September 2nd with 4 times a week service between Calgary and Mexico City.

Little slow on the uptake there Previously reported, but thanks!

[yyc_engineer]

Originally Posted by BennyG102

AeroMexico in summer 2019 season is resuming Mexico City – Calgary route, as the airline schedules this operation as seasonal flight. Boeing 737-800 aircraft will operate this route 4 times a week, from 31MAY19 to 02SEP19.
AM612 MEX1745 – 2230YYC 7S8 x234
AM613 YYC2355 – 0630+1MEX 7S8 x234

Is this the only late evening flight out of the International Terminal? Must be a pretty quiet place by that time.

I took a similar timed flight YVR-MEX and the terminal was deserted save for some early pax who were on the 02:00-04:00 HKG, PVG and MNL type flights.

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

Is this the only late evening flight out of the International Terminal? Must be a pretty quiet place by that time.

I took a similar timed flight YVR-MEX and the terminal was deserted save for some early pax who were on the 02:00-04:00 HKG, PVG and MNL type flights.

BA departs to LHR at 22:15. Other than that, not much happening international wise that I could see this summer that late in the evening.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

I took a similar timed flight YVR-MEX and the terminal was deserted save for some early pax who were on the 02:00-04:00 HKG, PVG and MNL type flights.

My experience at YVR has been the opposite. With AC’s ramped up Australia/India flights, two TPE flights, MNL, HKG, PVG and XMN etc the place was actually buzzing with people at that time. Will find out again next week!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Acey

As we've beaten to death, the problem with AM remains that it arrives too late to grab the WS 2300 bank. Over the last little bit, WS has slightly shifted a few of the departures and the 2300 bank is somewhat becoming a 2315 bank, but maybe one day out five AM will arrive less than 15 minutes late... you can't realistically book a 2315 departure with any confidence given the potential customs gongshow at that hour. Why AM cannot shift the arrival 20 minutes earlier... mind blown. I recall a day this summer when a third of the pax on WS347YYC-YEG were MEX originators. I repeat... 42 YEG-bound pax originated in MEX.

Yet WS still couldn’t make it work.

Time will tell... the fact that the service is only 4x weekly and for only three months should help it remain seasonal perhaps.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

My experience at YVR has been the opposite. With AC’s ramped up Australia/India flights, two TPE flights, MNL, HKG, PVG and XMN etc the place was actually buzzing with people at that time. Will find out again next week!

I was going to say I flow to Taipei a couple weeks ago and it was bonkers late. I never really clued into how big the second Asia-pac bank had become.

B788 to Xiamen
B789 to Melbourne
B788 to Brisbane
B777 to Sydney
B789 to Delhi
A332 to Shanghai
A359 to Taipei
B77W to Taipei
B77W to Manila
B77W to Hong Kong

That's over 3,000 passengers all within about 2 hours.

[YYCFlier]

Originally Posted by Acey

Currently showing 3x 319.

Holy shit, transborder next summer.

Yes and it is showing 3x319s all the way till November at least. DL must be banking on the JV coming through. WS will have to be selling to get those seats filled.

[Johnny Aussie]

Air Canada has just updated next winter’s forward schedule and every YYC-YYZ flight is listed as a 7M8. 8 Daily.

No more 763s obviously and AC9/10 pulled.

[YYCFlier]

RIP Trans-con signature service for YYC. I'm still showing mixed aircraft - 7M8, 321, 320?

edit: sorry, I see the difference. Timetable is 7M8, bookings still showing mixed. Kinda brutal the best arrival time is 1408 unless you want the redeye... I think more changes are coming. YEG has one less departure also on all 7M8 aircraft but has an earlier morning departure. If this is it it's a big capacity cut. I think we will see 2-3 more flights in the morning. Let's hope we see at least one 789 or 788 in there. Current schedule is 9 daily but with 3 763s and 4 321s!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by YYCFlier

RIP Trans-con signature service for YYC. I'm still showing mixed aircraft - 7M8, 321, 320?

edit: sorry, I see the difference. Timetable is 7M8, bookings still showing mixed. Kinda brutal the best arrival time is 1408 unless you want the redeye... I think more changes are coming. YEG has one less departure also on all 7M8 aircraft but has an earlier morning departure. If this is it it's a big capacity cut. I think we will see 2-3 more flights in the morning. Let's hope we see at least one 789 or 788 in there. Current schedule is 9 daily but with 3 763s and 4 321s!

Yeah it's probably far from finalised anyway. We knew the 763s would be gone anyway. Doubt AC would put a 788 / 789 on transcon from YYC though.
WS may still have its 789s on YYC-YYZ next winter.

[YYCFlier]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yeah it's probably far from finalised anyway. We knew the 763s would be gone anyway. Doubt AC would put a 788 / 789 transom on though.
WS may still have its 789s on YYC-YYZ next winter.

WS likely, I agree.

If AC doesn't put a widebody on the route, they'll have cut all signature service YYC-YYZ which they've had for a while now year round.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by YYCFlier

RIP Trans-con signature service for YYC. I'm still showing mixed aircraft - 7M8, 321, 320?

edit: sorry, I see the difference. Timetable is 7M8, bookings still showing mixed. Kinda brutal the best arrival time is 1408 unless you want the redeye... I think more changes are coming. YEG has one less departure also on all 7M8 aircraft but has an earlier morning departure. If this is it it's a big capacity cut. I think we will see 2-3 more flights in the morning. Let's hope we see at least one 789 or 788 in there. Current schedule is 9 daily but with 3 763s and 4 321s!

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yeah it's probably far from finalised anyway. We knew the 763s would be gone anyway. Doubt AC would put a 788 / 789 on transcon from YYC though.
WS may still have its 789s on YYC-YYZ next winter.

Some inside baseball stuff:

- Before the Summer 2019 season AC is getting 4 gently used on Sundays to drive granny to church 333. The 333s will have the legacy interiors in them for the summer season. This is why YVR-DUB (and a few other routes) is getting 333s next summer.
-Normally widebodies on the winter transcon is done inorder to better balance the work load at the pilot level. FA's can and do move around all equipment but pilots are type rated to 1 or 2 aicraft types (with 2 being very rare).
- Winter 2019-20 all 12 of the 333s go for cabin reconfiguration. The economy cabin gets the new Panasonic IFE and WIFI. This should pull 3-5 widebodies out of the schedule for the entire winter season.
- With the widebodies pulled from the flying schedule for reconfiguration, there is no need to put widebodies on the domestic.


I suspect that Signature seats will be back on the transcon for summer 2020.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by Alexcaban

Who is there right mind is going to pay full J on WestJet to go to Mexico.

Hence why Rouge was created.

hahaha my parents would. They are in their 80's. Have the money and like the perks.

[msmariner]

I’ll post this on the right thread this time. Around 330 I saw an all white B763 take off. My App said it was flight W8301 which was Cargojet. Are they getting some new planes or it a lease from someone else

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by Acey

They have picked up a couple frames. That one is a lease. Former AA. Converted early this year.

Thanks. Guess paint comes later 🤔

[Cage]

Originally Posted by BennyG102

It sounds like WestJet 1st delivery of 787 Dreamliner aircraft will be to Toronto Pearson International Airport YYZ, sometime in New Year. Not surprising as Toronto has Airport Hanger ready for it.

If the goal is national news coverage, doing your reveal in YYZ is infinitely better than YYC. In AB, 1/2 the national journalists are YEG based (to also cover the provincial government/politics) and the other 1/2 are YYC.

The concern for using YYC is the national media correspondents will base their report out of home city (not YYC) and only send a camera crew to the reveal hangar. No follow up questions from the media and a voice over in the business segment of the newscast.

Doing the reveal media event at YYZ and national media will all make the road trip to YYZ.

[Tobuz]

A class action lawsuit has been filed against the Calgary Airport Authority for allegedly giving a portion of its airport improvement fees to airlines and spending on improvements at a smaller, nearby airport, without notifying flyers of what their fees are being used for.

This kind fellow is suing our airport for $100 million. Just what YYC needs right now ... a dupe, errr, guy acting as the lead plaintiff in a class action for a bunch of bloodthirsty ambulance chasers. (In class actions, there’s only one real winner. And it ain’t the plaintiffs.)

Link here:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-airport-class-action-1.4951624

[Tobuz]

And FWIW, the claims in the class action are ridiculous. If the allegations are true ... I’m fine with them.

Applying a tiny part of the AIF to Springbank makes YYC better, because it takes a significant runway volume (ie congestion) away from YYC. Making it better for everyone.

And applying part of the AIF to carrier incentives (if that part is true) is equally good for YYC, and a good way to develop routes and service for the city.

As much as I hate that we have the country’s highest AIF, I really hope YYC defends against this silliness ... vigorously.

[Denscity]

Not telling anyone seems to be the crime.

[FormerWingTipper]

I thought Bathurst was the most expensive in Canada. Did they reduce theirs? Used to be $40...