Winnipeg Construction IX

[Ando]

Originally Posted by BAKGUY

I get the feeling / premonition some thing large in scale will be announced for downtown Winnipeg in short order.

Are you channeling Biff?

[optimusREIM]

^^ well we are over due for some relatively large proposal. I don't believe anyone has made one since 300 main was announced (well maybe sutton if you count their announcement last summer that they would be proceeding). If only Harvard had an ace up their sleeve for 416 main

[Urban recluse]

I would be interested in what Artis has planned for Fort Street (Vendome). We have not heard anything for a couple of years now.

[buzzg]

Well Drew (I think it was) has mentioned there is a project we will all love coming soon. Also the Boyd building addition/twin.

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

I would be interested in what Artis has planned for Fort Street (Vendome). We have not heard anything for a couple of years now.

Did they officially purchase it? If so, why haven't they shut down the bar if that's what they were so worried about?

If they are planning on redevelopment, it'd make sense to wait til 300/330 is more along in development and leaseholds to have a better sense of the market would be in terms of building/land use for the Vendome.

Anyone know what sort of historic elements are left inside Vendome (if any) that would make it worth restoring?

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

^^ well we are over due for some relatively large proposal. I don't believe anyone has made one since 300 main was announced (well maybe sutton if you count their announcement last summer that they would be proceeding). If only Harvard had an ace up their sleeve for 416 main

Last summer Harvard said they would wait for TNS to finish and settle into the market before making any decisions on 416 Main, said it would be five years out before anything concrete, they have their hands full trying to fill the vacant space in 201, they should be starting their lobby redevelopment soon.

[drew]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Well Drew (I think it was) has mentioned there is a project we will all love coming soon. Also the Boyd building addition/twin.

It wasn't me - I think it was Mr. Viking or Biff.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Last summer Harvard said they would wait for TNS to finish and settle into the market before making any decisions on 416 Main, said it would be five years out before anything concrete, they have their hands full trying to fill the vacant space in 201, they should be starting their lobby redevelopment soon.

I just wish I knew if they were looking at any sort of ideas and if they had done any work at all. Basically just pick the brain of the head of their development team to see what they have in mind. They must have some idea of what to put on the land.

[Arts]

Originally Posted by buzzg

That Metropolitan sign is cool. RIP.

My grandmother worked there for decades.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

I just wish I knew if they were looking at any sort of ideas and if they had done any work at all. Basically just pick the brain of the head of their development team to see what they have in mind. They must have some idea of what to put on the land.

Contact rosanne hill blaisdell see what she has to say.

[Wolf13]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Question for TV as an outsider – it seems like a lot of these local architecture companies producing a lot of these basic, cheap designs (that they would deem "modern") are borne of recent, young U of M grads... has the school lost is way? Or does the problem fall moreso on the developers and city for being cheap and approving ugly, respectively?

It's challenging to design within modern profit margins, as they're always getting slimmer... sometimes creativity with these constraints backfires.

Originally Posted by wardlow

I'm not an architect, and not defending 254 Wellington's design in particular, but most of what I've seen of these younger upstart firms doing infill projects is they're managing to do good design for risky projects that have low capital and low returns.

THIIIIIIS.

Well, 254 Wellington is ugly but that's the principle.

Originally Posted by peg

I would say that the problem probably lies more with the developer side of things, though that is more beyond my knowledge as a student.

Nope. If it made the required money while achieving the design intent, it would proceed close to render.

Originally Posted by DowntownBooster

The point is that they shouldn't bother with the fancy looking rendering to begin with even if it is just for marketing purposes only. If there is no intention for the final product to look anything like the initial drawing then skip the false hype and just actually draw something that will actually look the same as what is to be built. The only thing similar in this case is the overall shape of the structure. It's like showing someone a picture of a crystal glass ornamental round ball and then presenting them with one of those red, white and blue rubber balls and saying - "okay, here you go".

No, no no...

Renderings ARE marketing but the intent is usually intact. It's not that they "cheap out" or "get greedy", but rather that the project would not proceed at all unless necessary money is saved. Unfortunately, not every builder/developer/architect is very precise at estimating their costs, and similarly, sometimes they get hosed by trades.

Few architects and developers would risk besmirching their own name by reducing a design like that without needing to.

[buzzg]

I think it’s really more on the city to have some rules. Realistically, rental rates haven’t gone up much here the last decade+ and we’re still probably the cheapest major city to live in in Canada. Maybe it’s time to have some minimum standards, and if that causes rates to go up a bit, that may not be a bad thing.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by BAKGUY

I get the feeling / premonition some thing large in scale will be announced for downtown Winnipeg in short order.

im guesing this is the group behind that 40 story proposal that was tried for 100 main st? number yrs back and they got them self a peic of braodway now

but im just throwing the biggest wildest gues to stir the pot here folks..

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

im guesing this is the group behind that 40 story proposal that was tried for 100 main st? number yrs back and they got them self a peic of braodway now

but im just throwing the biggest wildest gues to stir the pot here folks..

Are you referring to Crystal Properties? Those are the guys that developed 300 Assiniboine and did the land swap with the city. Was that not the proposal for 100 Main?

[trueviking]

One in the fall....one likely in the spring. Maybe winter.

[lilwayne]

Originally Posted by trueviking

One in the fall....one likely in the spring. Maybe winter.

Announcements?

Multiple large projects on the horizon?

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Spocket

Are you referring to Crystal Properties? Those are the guys that developed 300 Assiniboine and did the land swap with the city. Was that not the proposal for 100 Main?

no one of the other bidders

not sure who they were that bit was never made public but a rendering did float around for it. was some sorta 40 story mix use project right at assinboine and fort

[dmacc]

So I was looking at my property tax and it's zoned as

R1M - Res - S F - Medium

Does anyone know what that means?

[1ajs]

just a r1 single family zoning

[wardlow]

Originally Posted by dmacc

So I was looking at my property tax and it's zoned as

R1M - Res - S F - Medium

Does anyone know what that means?

R1 zones are single-family residential, meaning only single-family dwelling is allowed. I think the "Medium" applies to the minimum lot size, side yards, etc. you're allowed to have (compared to R1-Large or R1-Small. R1-M is a pretty common zoning category for Winnipeg's older residential neighbourhoods.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

no one of the other bidders

not sure who they were that bit was never made public but a rendering did float around for it. was some sorta 40 story mix use project right at assinboine and fort

Architect was Cibinel