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Old Posted Feb 16, 2018, 1:26 AM
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Market residents lose liquor licence fight, seek audience with mayor

Andrew Duffy, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: February 15, 2018 | Last Updated: February 15, 2018 5:24 PM EST


Having lost a bid to stop another licensed establishment from opening in their neighbourhood, ByWard Market residents want to meet with Mayor Jim Watson to discuss the area’s alcohol-fuelled noise, urine and crime problems.

The residents, led by Friends of the Market and the Lowertown Community Association, had asked a provincial tribunal to deny a liquor licence to Headquarters, a combined hair salon and café that recently opened on Clarence Street.

They argued the market is already saturated with bars, restaurants and nightclubs whose disgorged revellers make life miserable for people who live in the mixed-use neighbourhood.

But in a decision released this week, the Licence Appeal Tribunal said it did not have the authority to consider broader community concerns such as noise and violence in the area.

“None of the concerns raised by the objectors were directly linked to the operation of Headquarters,” wrote adjudicator Marisa Victor. She said such concerns fall within the purview of municipal governments that control zoning bylaws and enforcement.

There was no evidence, Victor added, that the hair salon’s clients “will exhibit the behaviour of unruly nightclub patrons,” or cause trouble.

As a result, she approved owner Aydin Kharaghani’s request for a 266-seat liquor licence under the condition there be no music on the patio after 9 p.m. and that signs be posted requesting that patrons be considerate of the neighbours.

Kharaghani also owns and operates Kavali, one of the market’s biggest and most boisterous nightclubs.

Norm Moyer, a spokesman for the Lowertown Community Association, said he was disappointed with the decision.

“We’re not surprised because it seems like the Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario (AGCO) has a pretty low threshold for deciding to grant liquor licence applications,” he said. “They don’t listen much to those of us who represent the community.”

Moyer said local community groups have asked to meet with the mayor to discuss concerns about the state of their neighbourhood. “We certainly feel that it’s time,” he said. “We want the city to enforce its own bylaws.”

The city introduced a 2008 interim control bylaw to limit the proliferation of bars and nightclubs in the market, but its 100-metre separation rule is poorly enforced, Moyer said, because the city has been unable to craft a legal definition to distinguish a bar from a restaurant.

“They fail year after year, time after time, to implement that bylaw,” he said. “This is not rocket science. We want them to implement the policies they have.”

Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury, however, said he believes the larger problem rests with the province’s alcohol and gaming commission, which continues to issue unrestricted liquor licences.

Fleury said it makes no sense to issue an open-ended liquor licence to a hair salon and café that allows the business to operate like a bar.

“It really gives them a golden ticket to convert this into something that’s not a retail or service industry,” he said. “Are we going to have a hair salon that’s open to 2 a.m.?”

Fleury said the province needs to modernize its alcohol and gaming commission so it can issue restricted liquor licences. “The AGCO is failing us,” he charged.

Moyer agreed. The current system, he said, allows business owners to transfer a liquor licence upon a sale. It means the new owners can open a bar, sometimes even a nightclub, based on a liquor licence issued for something else.

“It’s like having a quota for dairy production,” he said. “You have money in your pocket as soon as you get it.”

Moyer also wants Attorney General Yasir Naqvi to review the agency’s mandate so its tribunals can consider the cumulative effect of previous licensing decisions on a community. The market, he noted, now has more than 21,000 licensed seats.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...r-licence-fight-seek-audience-with-mayor
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2018, 2:44 PM
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The mayor should politely tell these residents to STFU and go live anywhere else besides the Byward Market if drunkenness and noise are intolerable for them.
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It looks like one business owner in the market is personally fed up with the homeless in the city and has decided to wage an all out war against the shelters:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/homeless-s...ncer-on-ottawa-s-byward-market-1.3829483

He created a petition called Save the Market
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It looks like one business owner in the market is personally fed up with the homeless in the city and has decided to wage an all out war against the shelters:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/homeless-s...ncer-on-ottawa-s-byward-market-1.3829483

He created a petition called Save the Market
How vile and disingenuous. From the "Solutions" tab:
We are working to provide a solution that we believe in – We are hoping to have this completed by March 10, 2018

Try to keep it in your pants until you're ready next time.
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Police and bylaw officers need to enforce existing laws and bylaws.
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What will that solution be; dump them all in Vanier?

The Byward Market is the best place for the homeless shelters. A commercial area, few front doors (compared to mostly residential Vanier), wealthier condo dwellers have less chances of getting into trouble with the homeless (compared to lower class Vanier where some people could be influenced towards fights and drug addiction). I think LeBreton and Cenretown West could also support shelters.
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What will that solution be; dump them all in Vanier?

The Byward Market is the best place for the homeless shelters. A commercial area, few front doors (compared to mostly residential Vanier), wealthier condo dwellers have less chances of getting into trouble with the homeless (compared to lower class Vanier where some people could be influenced towards fights and drug addiction). I think LeBreton and Cenretown West could also support shelters.
Although I don't think they should all be dumped into Vanier, they should be spread out more than they are right now(Lebreton and Centretown West would be good, like you mentioned, maybe even the Glebe).

Right now there's a huge concentration of homeless around the market and Rideau Center because that's the area where all of the shelters are located. I know a lot of people who find the market unsafe and uninviting at night. My wife, who works downtown, told me that she would never step into the market alone after dark on weeknights(when it's more quiet).
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What will that solution be; dump them all in Vanier?

The Byward Market is the best place for the homeless shelters. A commercial area, few front doors (compared to mostly residential Vanier), wealthier condo dwellers have less chances of getting into trouble with the homeless (compared to lower class Vanier where some people could be influenced towards fights and drug addiction). I think LeBreton and Cenretown West could also support shelters.
The shelters are not in commercial parts of the market. They are in residential areas of the market and Sandy Hill.

To me the shelters should be closer to hospitals, particularly as the main use of the shelters shifts from those with socio-economic challenges to those with mental health and addiction issues.
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The City is looking for public input on the future of the ByWard Market.

They posted a video and a survey.

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More on the project + survey.

https://ottawa.ca/en/news/share-your-vision-future-byward-markets-public-spaces
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Fix the infrastructure (paving, lights, stalls, etc).
Close Clarence to cars after 11 am during the summer
Enforce existing bylaws and laws (public drunkenness, drug dealing, etc.)
Consider moving the market into the market building
Build a proper square on York Street.
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Fix the infrastructure (paving, lights, stalls, etc).
Close Clarence to cars after 11 am during the summer
Enforce existing bylaws and laws (public drunkenness, drug dealing, etc.)
Consider moving the market into the market building
Build a proper square on York Street.
This, if nothing else.
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City launches another ByWard Market study, this time on public spaces

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: July 31, 2018


The ByWard Market is the subject of another city study, this time focusing on the public spaces.

The city announced the 18-month project Tuesday after launching a similar exercise for Sparks Street last fall. There’s a new appetite to improve those high-traffic tourist areas of the city.

The city said finding a consultant for the ByWard Market study is in the procurement phase, so the costs haven’t been finalized.

ByWard Market seems to be perpetually under study. The 2013 study on the market by the U.S.-based Project for Public Spaces kicked off a new wave of scrutiny, leading to incremental change.

The city in 2017 opened a redesigned plaza in front of the central market building and installed two premium retail stands. It also experimented with the removal of parking spaces for an Ottawa 2017 exhibit on York Street where the big Ottawa sign now lives.

The next frontier might be better pedestrian access through the market, possibly by closing some streets to auto traffic. Any proposal to remove vehicles and parking in the market district will surely spark controversy, but the city will be faced with a decision at the end of the study. The results of the latest consultation, including the responses to a survey, will likely inform any changes or the status quo.

Pedestrian flows are expected to increase between Rideau Street and the market when the Confederation Line LRT opens. An underground station on Rideau Street will have an access point at William Street, in addition to the access point in the expanded Rideau Centre. Rideau Street is also scheduled for upgrades in 2019, once the LRT construction is done. (The LRT line is scheduled to open in November 2018).

With the new study, the city is looking for ways to “beautify, organize and connect” public spaces.

According to the city, the study will also examine consumer behaviour and potentially inform new requirements for the designs of sidewalks, streets and landscaping.

The city has already achieved its goals in council’s strategic priorities for the term when it comes to markets and Sparks Street. They included new governance models for both the city-run markets (ByWard and Parkdale) and Sparks Street.

When it comes to the markets, the city has turned oversight over to the arm’s-length agency Ottawa Markets.

Ottawa Markets’ own strategic plan for 2018-2022 promotes the idea of a design competition for the public realm of the ByWard Market.

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Consider moving the market into the market building.
You mean no more farmers' stalls on the street?
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You mean no more farmers' stalls on the street?
No reason not to have seasonal farmer's stalls in season, istm. The year-round vendors in the Market building would need to offer more than seasonal market garden produce in any event, although that could mean direct competition with the cheese shops and butchers currently in storefronts.
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They should permanently ban all cars and improve public space around the Market building first.

Every time I see this sign right by the main plaza of our supposedly iconic pedestrian attraction I want to laugh hysterically.

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They should permanently ban all cars and improve public space around the Market building first.
I wasn't quite as heavy-handed in my survey response but I suggested replacing some of the street parking with widened sidewalk/patio/square area. I like the suggestion of shutting down Clarence to cars between certain hours.
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I don't know about Clarence (access/egress for the parking garage via Parent?), but I'd certainly pedestrianize William between George and York, and William between George and Clarence.

Closing Clarence to traffic would at least address the problem of the sidewalk patios, which in some cases are taking up too much sidewalk space (imo).
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I'm not sure if I agree with closing Clarence down to traffic, but I would definitely ditch the parking for more sidewalk space.
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You mean no more farmers' stalls on the street?
Well, they aren't really farmer's stalls, but yes.
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Fix the infrastructure (paving, lights, stalls, etc).
Close Clarence to cars after 11 am during the summer
Enforce existing bylaws and laws (public drunkenness, drug dealing, etc.)
Consider moving the market into the market building
Build a proper square on York Street.
Isn't the market building full of tenants?
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