PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 690

summersm343 · #**13781** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 5:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

Plan view of the Pennrose proposal:

Thank you! It sucks to still have surface parking, but this is an INFINITELY better plan.

summersm343 · #**13782** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 5:56 PM**

Aerial Photo Overload!!

DJI_0486 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0482 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0466 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0460 by url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnklein/]Jonn Klein[/url], on Flickr

DJI_0448 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0442 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0440 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0439 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0430 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0402 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0398 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0393 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0387 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0386 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0385 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0377 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0368 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0352 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0347 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0342 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0341 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0340 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0330 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0315 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0310 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0308 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0298 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0292 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0291 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0288 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0286 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

DJI_0284 by Jonn Klein, on Flickr

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1487 · #**13783** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 7:29 PM**

thats a lot

Gonzo the Great · #**13784** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 8:21 PM**

jrdizzy · #**13785** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 8:37 PM**

What did we ever do without drones?

iheartphilly · #**13786** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 8:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by jrdizzy

What did we ever do without drones?

Helicopter shots way more expensive based on the amount of coverage from these drone shots.

PHL10 · #**13787** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 8:56 PM**

These pictures really showcase why Philadelphia is a really unique place. You basically have a 20th and 21st Century business district dropped into the center of an intact 19th century core with very little transition between the two and a mixing in many cases.

acenturi · #**13788** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 10:39 PM**

Someone refresh me on what the rumor is for this site:
"Liberty to demolish building on parcels acquired with Comcast " (19th and Cherry)
http://www.philly.com/philly/business/re...at-properties-acquired-with-Comcast.html

GtownFriend · #**13789** Posted **Mar 7, 2017, 11:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHL10

These pictures really showcase why Philadelphia is a really unique place. You basically have a 20th and 21st Century business district dropped into the center of an intact 19th century core with very little transition between the two and a mixing in many cases.

Plus perhaps the largest surviving stock of 18th cent residential in Old City

kingtut · #**13790** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 5:28 AM**

I found this article surprising and counter intuitive .

http://philly.curbed.com/2017/3/7/14841576/cost-of-living-philadelphia-versus-suburbs-study

jsbrook · #**13791** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 11:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by kingtut

I found this article surprising and counter intuitive .

http://philly.curbed.com/2017/3/7/14841576/cost-of-living-philadelphia-versus-suburbs-study

I'm not sure it really says much at all...the properties for which they are assessing property tax and mortgage as between suburbs and city don't seem comparable. It doesn't consider private v. public school. It leaves out a whole host of other factors (such as wage tax and BIRT). I don't think it makes any attempt to measure or equalize quality of living in the city and the suburbs or the things that drive many people to choose one over the other. All it really shows is that cheap housing is available in many parts of Philadelphia. We know this.

PHL10 · #**13792** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 12:57 PM**

The assumption in the analysis is that the City dweller pays less than $7500 for mortgage and property taxes. Unless you you are a long time home owner (but then you probably don't have young kids) or live in a very depressed area, you are probably paying pretty close to the suburban figure of $20,000 annually ($1,700/month).

dc_denizen · #**13793** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 3:49 PM**

WOW what pics..

this is amazing.

PhilliesPhan · #**13794** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by dc_denizen

WOW what pics..

this is amazing.

This picture makes me both EXTREMELY thankful that the Crosstown Expressway was never constructed, and very inspired as to why the fight to cap the length of the Vine Street Expressway is a worthwhile one. This seamless transition of high-density towers to lower-density rowhomes should exist between Center City and North Philly just as much as it does between Center City and South Philly. Although the area around the VSE has improved ASTRONOMICALLY, a complete capping between 22nd and 9th Streets (with a continuous interchange between the VSE and BFB) would improve the vibrancy and pedestrian levels considerably.

In the meantime, would adding a sidewalk and taking out a lane of traffic on each side of Vine Street that abuts the expressway be too much to ask for? I think that this would be an improvement that makes Vine Street feel more pedestrian-oriented.

br323206 · #**13795** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by PhilliesPhan

This picture makes me both EXTREMELY thankful that the Crosstown Expressway was never constructed, and very inspired as to why the fight to cap the length of the Vine Street Expressway is a worthwhile one. This seamless transition of high-density towers to lower-density rowhomes should exist between Center City and North Philly just as much as it does between Center City and South Philly. Although the area around the VSE has improved ASTRONOMICALLY, a complete capping between 22nd and 9th Streets (with a continuous interchange between the VSE and BFB) would improve the vibrancy and pedestrian levels considerably.

In the meantime, would adding a sidewalk and taking out a lane of traffic on each side of Vine Street that abuts the expressway be too much to ask for? I think that this would be an improvement that makes Vine Street feel more pedestrian-oriented.

I think Cincinnati is an interesting case study in trying to improve their urban freeway situation. Fort Washington way used to be a huge scar on downtown:

There's still room for improvement, but they reduced its size and improved the pedestrian experience around it. Trees and planters help a lot. And of course sidewalks on both sides of the surface streets:

Another possible solution, also out of Ohio, comes from Columbus, where they lined an overpass with buildings. When you're on it you don't even realize you're crossing a highway:

br323206 · #**13796** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 4:44 PM**

Also, sorry for the giant picture--anyone know how to make it smaller?

I'd also add that Cincinnati has plans to cap their highway in the future. The city has established a website to seek input:

http://www.connecttheblocks.org/

Maybe that's something we could do?

mcgrath618 · #**13797** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 4:47 PM**

Unrelated to current discussion, I just discovered this little building called Mandeville place
Why was it never built? I can't find any thread about it anywhere

EDIT:

Some sources I've looked at say it was cancelled due to the 2008 recession, but I can't find anything coherently saying just that.

PhilliesPhan · #**13798** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 4:59 PM**

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/re...welers-Row-after-Toll-bros-proposal.html

Looks like we have yet another Jeweler's Row tower proposal!

PhilliesPhan · #**13799** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 5:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

Also, sorry for the giant picture--anyone know how to make it smaller?

I'd also add that Cincinnati has plans to cap their highway in the future. The city has established a website to seek input:

http://www.connecttheblocks.org/

Maybe that's something we could do?

Thank you! That is all very interesting stuff, especially the link that you provided. If we could garner enough political will--both within the city of Philadelphia, AND from PennDOT and the Commonwealth--I could see a complete vision coming together. Give it a little time, as younger people like myself are interested in city politics and actually care about the viability of this amazing city. I believe that we younger Millennials will attempt to gain office in the coming elections and actually push for projects such as Cincinnati's vision!

McBane · #**13800** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by PhilliesPhan

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/re...welers-Row-after-Toll-bros-proposal.html

Looks like we have yet another Jeweler's Row tower proposal!

I was worried they were going to convert the building from jewelry manufacturing to residential, which would have been another blow to the street's jewelry ties. Alas, the building is getting six stories taller and not losing its existing tenants. I think that's a good thing. But again, I really hope the retail part of the Toll building are reserved for jewelers, not a CVS or some new "fast casual" chain concept.