HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan


Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #2281  
Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 12:12 AM
borkborkbork's Avatar
borkborkbork borkborkbork is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,743
Quote:
Originally Posted by ketch22 View Post
It is very upsetting to have one's design/creation demolished, especially because of circumstances not of one's control. This is one of those designs that came together very quickly over an intense weekend and was a "just right" solution for the then proposed Peace Tower. We were hired to do only the design, so it was out of our control as to how it was built, and so the design was modified to meet budget constraints (it was originally to be 150' tall instead of 120'). The reflecting pool was never built and it was to be finished with Tyndal stone, not concrete. (Although even in concrete I would not have classified this as a Brutalist design.) This was my original design sketch for the tower showing the design as intended. Even with the changes it was very gratifying to realize that it had become such an iconic symbol of the Peace Gardens. I hope the money will be found to build its replacement.

K22
Thanks for sharing this bit of background and history. I really liked this design and am very disappointed that it is being demolished. Was it really beyond saving? I haven't been following this story.
     
     
  #2282  
Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 12:34 AM
MG922 MG922 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 164
I appreciate the additional info behind the design! I grew up in near there, and I didn't know those details about the pool, tyndal, etc. It really was an icon of the area, and it's sad that such a "young" structure has to come down.

I was at a presentation by the engineers who completed the assessment on the structure a few years ago. The aggregate in the concrete was sourced locally, and there was a lot of concrete degradation due to alkali-silica reaction. I can't remember exact details, but apparently something about the ASR found in the structure was very rare in north america.

If they would have used different aggregate during construction, it would probably be in much better condition today. Definitely would have lasted longer.
     
     
  #2283  
Old Posted Feb 28, 2017, 12:41 AM
Wolf13 Wolf13 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,664
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtWednesday View Post
Oh, I'm just anti brutalist architecture.
... as any decent person should be ...

Kelly Leitch should include a similar stance in her "canadian values" test.


somewhat joking... there are quality exceptions to the doldrums that make up the large chunk of a wasted architectural style...

but in my opinion they remain exceptions.
     
     
  #2284  
Old Posted Feb 28, 2017, 1:53 AM
Urban recluse Urban recluse is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,797
There is nothing appealing about it IMO.
     
     
  #2285  
Old Posted Feb 28, 2017, 6:35 PM
Wolf13 Wolf13 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,664
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban recluse View Post
There is nothing appealing about it IMO.
"But the Radisson on Portage is an architectural icon..."
     
     
  #2286  
Old Posted Feb 28, 2017, 6:40 PM
Urban recluse Urban recluse is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,797
Oh, it's something alright. It looks like an unfinished development, still needing to be clad after 50 years...
     
     
  #2287  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 10:26 AM
cllew cllew is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,838
Winnipeg Free Press tweeted at 3am that the Canad Inn @ 826 Regent in Transcona is getting a 63 room addition as well as renovating the existing 50 rooms
     
     
  #2288  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:12 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,333
There was supposed to be a 100-150 room boutique hotel going in on the west side. I wonder if that's still in play with the CanadInns expansion.

http://www.chrisd.ca/2015/06/19/club-reg...aurants-expansion-winnipeg/#.WLg14U0zWUk



Also the link to Number Ten's website.
https://www.numberten.com/projects/the-club-regent-casino-show-theatre

I couldn't seem to find a good official site for the reno/expansion projects.
     
     
  #2289  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:22 PM
esquire's Avatar
esquire esquire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,480
^ With those two expanding hotels, CanadInns really has a hammerlock on the Transcona hotel market. Who knew there was so much demand out that way? Transcona's not even really the kind of place where you get a lot of inter-city traffic passing through like on Portage, Pembina, or even McPhillips.
     
     
  #2290  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:38 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,333
People come for the casino I guess haha no shortage of cliental. And with the event centre, there's a lot going on there.
     
     
  #2291  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:39 PM
Kronos's Avatar
Kronos Kronos is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by cllew View Post
Winnipeg Free Press tweeted at 3am that the Canad Inn @ 826 Regent in Transcona is getting a 63 room addition as well as renovating the existing 50 rooms
There is a Best Western Plus going up pretty much next door to that Canad Inn property.
     
     
  #2292  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:46 PM
Kronos's Avatar
Kronos Kronos is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by bomberjet View Post
People come for the casino I guess haha no shortage of cliental. And with the event centre, there's a lot going on there.
From what I've heard, there is demand for rooms from the CN Campus on Pandora East and from the expanded East End arena with out of town hockey teams attending tournaments.

Perhaps a bit of demand given the residential growth in the area
     
     
  #2293  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:50 PM
Urban recluse Urban recluse is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,797
Despite it being Canad (I get a bad taste in my mouth when saying that name aloud), that hotel needs a dramatic face lift, and this is good for the area. Regent Ave has seen basically no developments along it.
     
     
  #2294  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 4:38 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,333
Regent is full of car dealerships. They renovate every once in a while. Not much else you can do really. Regent is a retail strip.
     
     
  #2295  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 6:39 PM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 26,522
cn has created a hudge demand.

the event center at the casino is aparently quiet fancy for its stage setup

both our casinos are so booring.
     
     
  #2296  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 6:51 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,333
Not sure how I could forget about the CN training centre. The only other one like it is in Chicago. CN sends many people here every week for training.
     
     
  #2297  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 7:05 PM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 26,522
been good for downtown at this point


anyhow poked my head in this gem looking
     
     
  #2298  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 7:20 PM
Urban recluse Urban recluse is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,797
Quote:
Originally Posted by bomberjet View Post
Regent is full of car dealerships. They renovate every once in a while. Not much else you can do really. Regent is a retail strip.
Does not have to be exclusive. Plenty of space for multi-family.
     
     
  #2299  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 7:32 PM
cllew cllew is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,838
Doesn't CN billet their staff at the Radison downtown? I know I have seen the bus they use for taking the trainees to and from the training center around there.
     
     
  #2300  
Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 8:27 PM
Kronos's Avatar
Kronos Kronos is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban recluse View Post
Does not have to be exclusive. Plenty of space for multi-family.
Looks like most of the multi-family builds in that area are being built just north of Regent along Peguis and the west end of Transcona Boulevard; a lot of multi story condo and apartment units being built on Peguis
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Closed Thread

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:31 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.