Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[DCRes]

I while ago someone posted pictures of the blue lighting on the side of the Tribune Building (Neumont Univ), it appears that this lighting can also change colors. Perhaps they really will theme the theater/111 area with colors of the shows like Future Mayor has long advocated for.

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[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by i-215

The Toyota dealer just spent a bunch of money building a new dealership on that same block, so I don't see that block re-developing for another 10-15 years.

That land has been car dealerships for a long long time. Mark Miller rebuilt one building and moved the Toyota lot across the street to where I think they used to have their used cars, but it was close to 10 years ago.

[Future Mayor]

Here is an interesting article regarding place making in Innovation Districts, and how to make them more successful.

http://www.pps.org/blog/eight-placemaking-principles-for-innovation-districts/

[asies1981]

Post on the Northwest Quadrant

[sthbrown4]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

I received this e-mail today. Looks likes some delays for 2 residential projects.....

These two projects were fully funded and permitted.

(The name of my company and the construction company have been left out of this for privacy & security purposes.)

######## Construction Company appreciates your proposal on the Pierpont Apartments. The project came in over budget and no longer works with the Performa with the current design. The project is under redesign and will bid again with new drawings in 3 months.

The following major changes to the project are anticipated: parking Level B2 to be removed, insertion of a new above grade concrete level, and an addition of five units. Also, modifications to product and material selections are anticipated.

New renderings up for the Pierpont Apartments

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After:


very interesting...

[s.p.hansen]

Salt Lake City 1973: Not Long After the Completion of the COB

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by sthbrown4

New renderings up for the Pierpont Apartments

Before:

After:


very interesting...

It's cool that they added a floor. They need to draw more attention to the void between the two main sections. Perhaps go with a color that is more bold for the top 2 floors above the void. I also think that now that they have 3 floors of concrete they need to do something to make it look less like a parking garage. Perhaps stain the concrete or add a coloring agent to the mix.

[urban.cyclist]

Originally Posted by sthbrown4

New renderings up for the Pierpont Apartments

Before:

After:


very interesting...

When SLC adapted the 2015 IBC codes it allowed one more story for wood structures on top of concrete podiums. There are a couple of buildings around town about to go up that utilize this change to get extra height. It looks like the developer here wanted to cut excavation costs and build an additional level of parking above grade.

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by asies1981

Post on the Northwest Quadrant

I like the idea of an inland port. I disagree with Mr. Reid's assessment that the lack of residential will encourage sprawl. Residential would be what would encourage sprawl, requiring new services such as new schools and attracting strip malls. It is much better IMV to infill existing SLC with the residential and provide quality transit service to the port. Further many of the new residents wouldn't be working out there anyway. I think the city should develop a central port "shuttle" station either on California or Indiana ave. For now the final mile(s) can be handled by either shuttle, company owned car share, or Uber and in a few short years by self driving cars operated either by a private company or a fleet operated by UTA.

[asies1981]

Photo update of the Liberty Crest, you beige stucco lovers will love it

[Stenar]

Residential wouldn't necessarily be sprawl. The original 2009 master plan had dense village and town centers.

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

I like the idea of an inland port. I disagree with Mr. Reid's assessment that the lack of residential will encourage sprawl. Residential would be what would encourage sprawl, requiring new services such as new schools and attracting strip malls. It is much better IMV to infill existing SLC with the residential and provide quality transit service to the port. Further many of the new residents wouldn't be working out there anyway. I think the city should develop a central port "shuttle" station either on California or Indiana ave. For now the final mile(s) can be handled by either shuttle, company owned car share, or Uber and in a few short years by self driving cars operated either by a private company or a fleet operated by UTA.

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by Stenar

Residential wouldn't necessarily be sprawl. The original 2009 master plan had dense village and town centers.

No but the extension of residential services, retail, and entertainment would encourage it. If we focus those things downtown rather than spread them out there is a greater incentive to live in close proximity to the core. The port would encourage some sprawl, into Tooelle for instance, but not as much as it would if there were retail, restaurants, theatres etc out there.

I think we should leave that area for industrial uses and adjust our zoning to encourage greater densification in existing neighborhoods. One area that could be addressed is the lot size minimums in Glendale and Poplar Grove. I don't think those areas will suffer by having similar lot sizes as some of the city's best neighborhoods. In fact allowing for subdivision of large lots would likely end up being a boon for low income families that own a home out there. They could trade lawn for a neighbor and pay off their home in the process.

[airportvids]

Originally Posted by asies1981

Photo update of the Liberty Crest, you beige stucco lovers will love it

So any idea if Boyer will broke ground for 151 right after Liberty Crest is finish?

[airhero]

I found a tool on the epa's website that allows you to plot historical air quality data for counties and metro areas and I thought it would be neat to share a plot for Salt Lake. I'd heard that in spite of the uproar over Salt Lake's air quality in the recent past, that the air is much better now than it was years ago. I didn't realize how much better until I saw the plot below. It's for the overall AQI in SL County from 1980 to 2016 and shows a tile for each day, with the tile color being the air quality classification for that day:



There were only 6 green air days from 1981-1982!

In case you've never seen or played around with these plots before, they can be made here:

https://www.epa.gov/outdoor-air-quality-data

[Liberty Wellsian]

^For instance

Many of the older neighborhoods out there have alleys and huge backyards. We could allow for single family homes to be built on the alleys so long as they had at least an attached 1 car garage, forfeited a foot or 2 for the new 1 way road, and put in a curb and sidewalk. No setbacks from the sidewalk necessary.

We could double the density/economic and political importance of some west side neighborhoods.

[San Diego-Honolulu]

Thanks for sharing that chart on the smog situation. Definitely not on Salt Lake City's level but there are other cities also trying to fix their own smog problems across the country. It definitely needs to get better.

On a side note this is my 100th post!!!!!!!!!!

[Wasatch Wasteland]

Haha "100th"

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

No but the extension of residential services, retail, and entertainment would encourage it. If we focus those things downtown rather than spread them out there is a greater incentive to live in close proximity to the core. The port would encourage some sprawl, into Tooelle for instance, but not as much as it would if there were retail, restaurants, theatres etc out there....

The port would encourage sprawl into Tooele??? You realize that the NW Quadrant is about 19 mikes to Stansbury Park, but only 8 miles from downtown, right? And you realize there's a "no man's land" between the NW Quadrant of about 13 miles of tailings pond, beaches, mountains, and Kennecott, right? The NW Quadrant literally cannot sprawl anywhere.

[justiny]

SLC's air quality was horrific back in the early 80's. I remember my dad driving all of us up to Park City just to get away from the air sludge and see the sun. IIRC, there were news reports back then of an uptick of suicides for people going 30+ days without seeing sunlight, not sure if that was ever true.

[delts145]

That's amazing airhero. Thanks for posting. I had no idea that the 80's were that bad, and how much it has improved. Can anyone tell me how much of a percentage of the UTA bus fleet has been converted over to CNG? Also, are they receiving from the orders yet on the electric buses?

Originally Posted by airhero

I found a tool on the epa's website that allows you to plot historical air quality data for counties and metro areas and I thought it would be neat to share a plot for Salt Lake. I'd heard that in spite of the uproar over Salt Lake's air quality in the recent past, that the air is much better now than it was years ago. I didn't realize how much better until I saw the plot below. It's for the overall AQI in SL County from 1980 to 2016 and shows a tile for each day, with the tile color being the air quality classification for that day:



There were only 6 green air days from 1981-1982!

In case you've never seen or played around with these plots before, they can be made here:

https://www.epa.gov/outdoor-air-quality-data