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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 3:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
with its 16 point vote margin, illinois is now the only completely safe non-coastal "firewall" state for the dems.
Eh. Honestly, I'd say wait for 2020 to see if it's a realignment or a fluke. Consider the following.

1. Trump might not be on the ticket in 2020 at all. He could be impeached, but I think it's more likely that he either resigns mid-term, or chooses not to run for a second term, because he doesn't find being a president to be that fun. It's unlikely that Pence or whoever else will have the same appeal in the Rust Belt, or campaign on the same issues, if Trump decides to call it quits.

2. Even if Trump does run again, unless he's actually successful in turning around these areas in some demonstrable way, a lot of the voters who swung to him this time around may not do it again.
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