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Old Posted Nov 16, 2016, 2:58 AM
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Can't find DC. Did find one for Houston and Harris County.

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Nope.

Salt Lake County overwhelmingly voted for HRC.

44.9 - 32.4
SLC has been blue for a while now (like 50 years). Salt Lake County (which SLC is just 15% of) though is actually 42.8 Clinton - 32.6 Trump - 18.9 Evan McMullin (92% in). Combining Evan and Trump the conservative vote did go 'red' about 52-43. But voters overwhelmingly chose Clinton over Trump.
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Philadelphia:

Dark red are wards that Trump won and light red are wards where he got more than 1/3 of the vote. Clinton won every other ward in the city. The 26th Ward in South/Southwest Philly is relatively sparsely populated but that area of the city is Toll Bros country so take from that what you will. Northeast Philadelphia is to this city what Staten Island is to New York so absolutely no surprises there.
Just curious if you could explain your comparison.
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Considering Putin was actively trying to get Trump elected, of course he won the Russian vote in NYC.
They voted for Bush, McCain and Romney as well. It had nothing to do with the Trump/Putin relationship. Russian voters are right-wing: they associate anything left of center as too socialistic. They probably admire Trump's business experience as well.
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Apparently Romney won the Trump Tower precinct, but Trump did not.

(Not surprising given that elite Republicans in Manhattan preferred Romney over Trump).
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They voted for Bush, McCain and Romney as well. It had nothing to do with the Trump/Putin relationship. Russian voters are right-wing: they associate anything left of center as too socialistic. They probably admire Trump's business experience as well.
Yeah the Russian neighborhoods in NYC vote right-wing too, but not because of Putin. I would guess most former Soviets in NYC detest Putin.

It's kind of weird and contradictory, but most NYC Russians are Jewish and aren't particularly patriotic towards Russia (you almost never see a Russian flag, for instance), but they are also very conservative culturally and politically, and aligned with Orthodox/Hasidic Jews, rather than secular Jews.
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They voted for Bush, McCain and Romney as well. It had nothing to do with the Trump/Putin relationship. Russian voters are right-wing: they associate anything left of center as too socialistic. They probably admire Trump's business experience as well.
I'll bet you'd find the same thing with anyone that's lived in a left-wing country, they know how horrible it is so they go the other way.

Am I the only one that's surprised that SLC is blue? I figured if any big city would be red it would be SLC.
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I'll bet you'd find the same thing with anyone that's lived in a left-wing country, they know how horrible it is so they go the other way.

Am I the only one that's surprised that SLC is blue? I figured if any big city would be red it would be SLC.
Tends to go the same way with Cuban immigrants. Obama actually managed a 50-50 split in 2012 among Cubans but normally Cuban immigrants skew heavily Republican for this very reason. Cuban neighborhoods are often the islands of Red in heavily Blue South Florida.
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The big news in Atlanta was that Clinton won the suburbs, including Cobb and Gwinnett counties, which had formerly been solidly republican. It was the first time since Jimmy Carter that they went blue.
In Fulton and DeKalb counties (the two core counties), there were multiple precincts that went 100% or 99% for Clinton. The majority of precincts in the city of Atlanta went 90+% for Clinton. Clayton county as a whole went 85% Clinton.

Full results here.
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The big news in Atlanta was that Clinton won the suburbs, including Cobb and Gwinnett counties, which had formerly been solidly republican.
That was kind of expected, no? Cobb and Gwinnett used to be all white and now have huge black and nonwhite populations.

I don't think there are any Republican black neighborhoods in the U.S., so when a neighborhood turns from white to black, it almost certainly will vote Dem.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2016, 3:19 PM
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That was kind of expected, no? Cobb and Gwinnett used to be all white and now have huge black and nonwhite populations.
I think with Gwinnett it was more expected, but Cobb was a surprise. It's still 64% white. But in general, yes, the shifting demographics of the Atlanta suburbs are undeniable.
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That was kind of expected, no? Cobb and Gwinnett used to be all white and now have huge black and nonwhite populations.

I don't think there are any Republican black neighborhoods in the U.S., so when a neighborhood turns from white to black, it almost certainly will vote Dem.
not really - neither county went for obama just 4 years ago - demographic shifts haven't been happening that quickly. it was quite a big surprise seeing the entire core metro area go blue this time around:

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Gwinnett
2012: 54.0% vs 44.6%
2016: 45.2% vs 51.0%

Cobb
2012: 55.5% vs 42.9%
2016: 46.7% vs 48.8%

My estimates of % whites in those counties based off 2000-2010 trends

Gwinnett
2012: 40.16%
2016: 33.55%
*Gwinnett County went from 67% white in 2000 to 44% white in 2010
The average in increase in D and decrease in R votes in Gwinnett has been 8.1 percentage points vs a 6.6 percentage point decrease in whites.

Cobb
2012: 53.8%
2016: 49.7%
*Cobb County went from 68% white in 2000 to 56% white in 2010
The average in increase in D and decrease in R votes in Gwinnett has been 7.4 percentage points vs a 4.1 percentage point decrease in whites.

So if race has a strong influence on who you vote for, then it's not the whole story, but it was likely a very major factor.
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The big news in Atlanta was that Clinton won the suburbs, including Cobb and Gwinnett counties, which had formerly been solidly republican. It was the first time since Jimmy Carter that they went blue.
In Fulton and DeKalb counties (the two core counties), there were multiple precincts that went 100% or 99% for Clinton. The majority of precincts in the city of Atlanta went 90+% for Clinton. Clayton county as a whole went 85% Clinton.

Full results here.
Very much the same with suburban Fort Bend County in the Houston area. It was already trending blue the last few elections and finally went blue this year.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2016, 11:54 PM
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Here's how Los Angeles County and some surrounding counties voted.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-california-neighborhood-election-results/
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Interesting to see the red blot in Beverly Hills.
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Famously conservative Orange County went blue for the first time since the 1930s. In this case it probably was "demographics as destiny."

http://ktla.com/2016/11/09/orange-county...r-the-first-time-since-great-depression/

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Interesting to see the red blot in Beverly Hills.
I would bet it's the Persian Jewish enclave.
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Outside NYC, Westchester swung even more towards the Democrats. Being the "home base" of the Clintons probably helped. And Trump was likely a bad fit for the county.

In Nassau, the GOP vote stayed more or less the same. Maybe there was a swing towards Trump on the South Shore offsetting a D swing on the North Shore? Trump is also a better fit there given that it's more insular and "New Yawk" and the white population isn't as educated as Westchester.

(Someone once explained to me that people who are wealthy and care about prestige prefer Westchester, those that are wealthy and don't prefer Nassau).
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2016, 2:25 AM
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Miami-Dade County has been swinging more Democratic for years (mostly do to less influence from older hard line Cubans):
2000: 53.4%
2004: 53.2%
2008: 57.8%
2012: 61.6%
2016: 63.3%
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