Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 363

Future Mayor · #**7241** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

Three replies in a row, sorry...

Is anyone really surprised that the Void Corporate Center appears to be doomed? I called it all the way back when it was announced. It just felt too good to be true. Oh well.

That is one thing we have always agreed on.

That we had our doubts about the VOID Center.

I always hoped it would happen, but had serious doubts. I haven't seen anything regarding Evermore (wood) Land, whatever it was called. Seems like another Brandt Anderson, with the massive Lehi project, big proposals, with no results.

Future Mayor · #**7242** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by ajiuO

How much you wanna bet that whoever buys the property ends up putting a 5-7 story apartment building that is cladded in a mixture of stucco, natural stone, and metal (for that modern edge)?

At least the regent street hotel is still pretty likely... I'm guessing that might have helped to kill this though.

Luckily it's going to have to be at least 9 or 10 stories, of stucco, because minimum heights in the D-1 are 100'. So at least it will be a tall pile of —. lol

Future Mayor · #**7243** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 4:32 PM**

I think it's time to start getting our YIMBY voices heard, and speak up in favor of mixed use and higher densities. My opinion is that if we don't put higher densities on 600 S and 700 E, adjacent to a neighborhood commercial center anchor, then where?

http://www.sltrib.com/news/4253826-155/neighbors-will-get-another-chance-to

Stenar · #**7244** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

That is one thing we have always agreed on.

That we had our doubts about the VOID Center.

I always hoped it would happen, but had serious doubts. I haven't seen anything regarding Evermore (wood) Land, whatever it was called. Seems like another Brandt Anderson, with the massive Lehi project, big proposals, with no results.

He already announced Evermore wouldn't happen.

Stenar · #**7245** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

Three replies in a row, sorry...

Is anyone really surprised that the Void Corporate Center appears to be doomed? I called it all the way back when it was announced. It just felt too good to be true. Oh well.

Too good to be true? More like, too crappy to be true. That architectural 'design' was a steaming pile of —.

TonyAnderson · #**7246** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 5:10 PM**

Downtown SLC has released its annual report. - http://downtownslc.org/images/DTA_State_of_Downtown_2016_EMAIL_1.pdf

A lot of interesting things to read. Some including 440,000 new sq. feet of office space added, 2,344 residential units added and 513 new hotel rooms. They also continue to mention they're in negotiation with a 'developer' for a 800-1200 room CCH.

Comrade · #**7247** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

Too good to be true? More like, too crappy to be true. That architectural 'design' was a steaming pile of —.

Disagree on the second design, which I really, really, really liked.

Then it got progressively worse.

This is the one I liked:

http://i0.wp.com/www.buildingsaltlake.co...s3f568435.jpgoriginal-e1420248801867.jpg

Stenar · #**7248** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 9:17 PM**

I've always thought someone ought to put an office building there for law firms, right across from the Federal court.

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Originally Posted by ajiuO

How much you wanna bet that whoever buys the property ends up putting a 5-7 story apartment building that is cladded in a mixture of stucco, natural stone, and metal (for that modern edge)?

At least the regent street hotel is still pretty likely... I'm guessing that might have helped to kill this though.

Future Mayor · #**7249** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

Disagree on the second design, which I really, really, really liked.

Then it got progressively worse.

This is the one I liked:

http://i0.wp.com/www.buildingsaltlake.co...s3f568435.jpgoriginal-e1420248801867.jpg

I liked that one too.

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Originally Posted by Orlando

I have my doubts about Regent also. I would love for this to be built, but do they have a hotelier on board yet?

I think the one thing The Regent Hotel has going for it, is that the boutique market is a much different market than say the CCH market. Add in the residential component and I estimate that demand alone will make Regent happen, as they operator won'd be competing with another hotel in their existing SLC portfolio.

justiny · #**7250** Posted **Aug 20, 2016, 5:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I think the one thing The Regent Hotel has going for it, is that the boutique market is a much different market than say the CCH market. Add in the residential component and I estimate that demand alone will make Regent happen, as they operator won'd be competing with another hotel in their existing SLC portfolio.

What about the Hotel Monaco less than a block away?

San Diego-Honolulu · #**7251** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 12:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by justiny

What about the Hotel Monaco less than a block away?

Hotel Monaco Salt Lake is part of a chain/franchise of hotels with the same name. I know there are other Hotel Monaco's in places such as Seattle, Portland, and Denver. I'm not sure if the Salt Lake Hotel Monaco would count as a true stand alone boutique hotel like the one that might get built in Salt Lake City less than a block away.

Liberty Wellsian · #**7252** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 3:15 AM**

I heard a rumor the other day that the RDA was considering a new Urban renewal area in the people's freeway district. Can anyone confirm?

Stenar · #**7253** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 5:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by San Diego-Honolulu

Hotel Monaco Salt Lake is part of a chain/franchise of hotels with the same name. I know there are other Hotel Monaco's in places such as Seattle, Portland, and Denver. I'm not sure if the Salt Lake Hotel Monaco would count as a true stand-alone boutique hotel like the one that might get built in Salt Lake City less than a block away.

The Kimpton Hotel Group, which owns Hotel Monaco, was the first to develop the boutique hotel concept in America in 1981. There's nothing about a boutique hotel that says it can't be part of a chain.

Comrade · #**7254** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 6:58 AM**

I would say the Hotel Monaco fits the bill. It's a bit larger than many boutique hotels, but beyond size, it's got a great deal in common with what makes a boutique hotel a boutique hotel in the first place.

It's slightly larger than Denver's (189 rooms, SLC's has 225 rooms), but it fits, I think.

More importantly, Kimpton considers it a boutique hotel:

https://www.kimptonhotels.com/boutique-hotels-in-salt-lake-city

asies1981 · #**7255** Posted **Aug 22, 2016, 2:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

I heard a rumor the other day that the RDA was considering a new Urban renewal area in the people's freeway district. Can anyone confirm?

Yes it is included in the proposed boundaries of the State Street Project Area which is in the planning stages with final boundaries yet to be announced.

delts145 · #**7256** Posted **Aug 22, 2016, 11:26 AM**

I don't remember anyone following up on this photo with a comment. So, what is the reason for ripping this out? Anyone know? Are they getting ready to make a move on this property?

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Originally Posted by s.p.hansen

They're ripping out that raised flower bed barrier that separated the parking lot adjacent to the old Zion's Bank building from the Main Street sidewalk.

Liberty Wellsian · #**7257** Posted **Aug 22, 2016, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by asies1981

Yes it is included in the proposed boundaries of the State Street Project Area which is in the planning stages with final boundaries yet to be announced.

I'm so excited!

Future Mayor · #**7258** Posted **Aug 22, 2016, 2:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

I don't remember anyone following up on this photo with a comment. So, what is the reason for ripping this out? Anyone know? Are they getting ready to make a move on this property?

I was walking down Main St last night and they have rebuilt the rear wall, and what was the planter is just cement not.