Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by asies1981

Cowboy is participating in a work session with the Historic Landmark Commission today for the Liberty Square development. They've update their design as well.

I prefer the original design to this. Outside of the color scheme, this new form of the building seems much more generic.

[Comrade]

For the love of god can we please stop putting Liberty in everything?

[ThePusherMan]

Originally Posted by Stenar

I prefer the original design to this. Outside of the color scheme, this new form of the building seems much more generic.

I agree I like the original better but honestly I'd be happy for either. Looks like both designs have some street engagement in mind.

[ThePusherMan]

Originally Posted by Comrade

For the love of god can we please stop putting Liberty in everything?

Haha. Too bad Cowboy Partners are the only ones getting — done quickly and efficiently.

[asies1981]

Originally Posted by ThePusherMan

Haha. Too bad Cowboy Partners are the only ones getting — done quickly and efficiently.

They will start construction soon on two projects in South Salt Lake as well.

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by asies1981

They will start construction soon on two projects in South Salt Lake as well.

I wonder if they give a YEE HAWWWWW after ever deal is finalized.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by asies1981

They will start construction soon on two projects in South Salt Lake as well.

Let me guess:

Liberty Crossing
Liberty Heights

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by Stenar

I prefer the original design to this. Outside of the color scheme, this new form of the building seems much more generic.

Agreed, the original looks much better.
And let, uh, ff-f-freedom ring.

[JMK]

Originally Posted by Comrade

Let me guess:

Liberty Crossing
Liberty Heights

I'm waiting for 'Liberty Liberty'

[EPdesign]

Although I am a fan of the original design, I think the new one will appeal the the younger market. Its a very "happening" trend design and that will get units leased. It's better than some of the other designs.

[delts145]

Definitely more on trend, but yeah, very similar to everything else going up. At least there are more elemental details to the exterior. Hmm, Is all that white just more of a sprayed on stucco type blah?

[EPdesign]

It is interesting to see what will one day be seen as early century living.

[asies1981]

Originally Posted by Comrade

Let me guess:

Liberty Crossing
Liberty Heights

Cowboy sure does love freedom

[JMK]

The Felt Building on main has been getting some improvements, there will be a new tenant on the ground level that I'm pretty excited about,

[Makid]

Originally Posted by JMK

The Felt Building on main has been getting some improvements, there will be a new tenant on the ground level that I'm pretty excited about,

I can't wait for another hotdog joint in SLC. I do love a good dog.

I wish they did deliver on smaller orders though, 25 is a lot. Maybe this will go down for the SLC location. I can see it being a big hit.

[UTPlanner]

I like the design of the Liberty Square development although I find it odd that orange has become the new color of choice. I know of 2 other multi-family development proposals that are using the same shade. I think it's a great location for this use and will certainly improve Green Street a great deal. At the moment, it appears to be nothing but a shady alley.

Comrade, I do know that one of the South Salt Lake Developments is Liberty Crossing, so you hit the nail on the head.

[Utah_Dave]

Someone recently posted the growth of salt lakes population for the last several years and the average growth rate was close to 1,500 people a year. That being said, is anyone concerned that the apartments and condos being built down town could result in a glut or being overbuilt? Is the downtown population growing well but we are losing some population in the surrounding cities?

Does anyone have any figures on this?

[(Eco)nomy_404]

Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

Someone recently posted the growth of salt lakes population for the last several years and the average growth rate was close to 1,500 people a year. That being said, is anyone concerned that the apartments and condos being built down town could result in a glut or being overbuilt? Is the downtown population growing well but we are losing some population in the surrounding cities?

Does anyone have any figures on this?

I found this from September 2012 in the Trib. It's figures are from 2000 to 2010. During that time frame, the down town population (the area within 2 miles of city hall) grew by 19,712 compared to the overall city's growth of 4,697 during the same timeframe. That means down town is definitely booming relative to the rest of the city. That still leaves the question of which areas people are fleeing from.

Salt Lake City is a leader in a national trend of big city downtowns becoming places to live — not just work or shop.

Salt Lake City ranked No. 4 nationally in the increase between 2000 and 2010 of people living within two miles of its city hall — behind only Chicago, New York City and Philadelphia, the U.S. Census Bureau reported Thursday.

That is not No. 4 based not just on percentages of downtown growth, but in actual people.

Salt Lake City had an additional 19,712 people move downtown in the decade, compared to 20,769 people in Philadelphia, 37,422 in New York and 48,288 in Chicago.

http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=...0/areas-census-chicago-downtown.html.csp

Then there is this article that is just from last year. It doesn't cite population figures, but it does talk about all the projects, investment, and revenue growth down town:

Downtown Salt Lake City is seeing a residential building boom, but that is just one sign the urban core is healthy and growing.

Demand for office space, an uptick in retail sales, new energy on Main Street and expanding transit usage across downtown also underscore that the city's central business district is doing well, its supporters said Thursday.

At least a dozen new projects — offices, retail centers, new public facilities — are under construction, according to a yearly report released by Salt Lake City's Downtown Alliance.

"It's pretty exciting to think about what the skyline is going to look like," executive director Jason Mathis said.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/2713779-155/salt-lake-citys-downtown-vibrant-and

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

Someone recently posted the growth of salt lakes population for the last several years and the average growth rate was close to 1,500 people a year. That being said, is anyone concerned that the apartments and condos being built down town could result in a glut or being overbuilt? Is the downtown population growing well but we are losing some population in the surrounding cities?

Does anyone have any figures on this?

Based on the most recent stats posted by a couple of forum members, not only are the surrounding cities not losing population, but many are booming. Of course, some more than others. Still, even older inner cities like Midvale are showing a brisk growth rate. Cities such as Murray, Sandy, and even Orem are already showing a willingness to mature and diversify their inner cores.

[Utah_Dave]

Originally Posted by (Eco)nomy_404

Alright guys, it's May and you know what that means: the Census Bureau's annual city population estimate release! While we did markedly better than last year's pathetic gain of 278 residents, we're still stuck in the anemic sub-1% growth rate range that we've been in the last half decade. 2014 was clearly an outlier, but even removing that, we are still averaging under 1,500 per year. With all the projects going up, I thought this would accelerate. I'm starting to lose confidence in that happening anytime soon.

Salt Lake City Population Growth 2010-2015

2010: 186,564 (Base Year)
2011: 188,206 (+1,642; +0.88%)
2012: 189,532 (+1,326; +0.71%)
2013: 191,326 (+1,794; +0.95%)
2014: 191,604 (+278; +0.15%)
2015: 192,672 (+1,068; +0.55%)

5-yr total increase: +6,108 (3.27%)

Salt Lake CSA Population Growth 2010-2015

2010: 2,281,920 (Base Year)
2011: 2,316,777 (+34,857; +1.53%)
2012: 2,351,176 (+34,399; +1.49%)
2013: 2,392,178 (+41,002; +1.74%)
2014: 2,425,719 (+33,541; +1.40%)
2015: 2,467,709 (+41,990; +1.73%)

5-yr total increase: +185,789 (8.14%)

https://www.census.gov/popest/data/index.html

I know Utah is growing. The figures above seemed really low compared with the amount of residential construction. I'm trying to figure out the numbers, especially 2014. If downtown was growing, who was losing population to offset the numbers. Maybe I'm not reading things right.