Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 288

s.p.hansen · #**5741** Posted **Mar 20, 2016, 4:54 AM**

http://m.deseretnews.com/article/8656447...involving-TRAX-train-vehicle.html?pg=all

delts145 · #**5742** Posted **Mar 20, 2016, 11:04 AM**

Talk about cliché. So on the east side of the tracks you've got all of these great developments springing up like crazy, but the west side is definitely the "wrong side of the tracks" at the moment. Hopefully, all of the development on the east side will soon spill over onto the west.

Great photo update Sean!

Pic By S.P.Hansen

delts145 · #**5743** Posted **Mar 20, 2016, 12:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Viperlord

New planned apartment building:

Record PLNPCM2016-00154:
Planning Commission - Zoning Amendment
35 S 900 E Salt Lake City UT 841021306

renderings in the link below in the "attachments" section:
https://aca.slcgov.com/Citizen/Cap/CapDe...99&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

https://aca.slcgov.com/Citizen/Cap/CapDe...99&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

I remember reading about this a couple of weeks ago as being upscale. I was somewhat confused about the reaction to it being all stucco and somewhat cheap, because I read where it would be quite the opposite. Anyway, read the 'Narrative' section of the 'Attachments' carefully. After that, zoom the renderings up to around 200%. While the renderings do not allow for a clear detailing of the fascia , the narrative is claiming to advance the use of multiple high quality, class A materials, not a lot of stucco. Also, even though the rendering is preliminarily over simplistic, it does show a definite variety of texture when zoomed up 200%. Particularly, the center portion or grand staircase entrance area appears to be using brick or some sort of stone. I also noticed that there appears to be alternating textures/materials throughout the façade. Adding to that ,the narrative explains that the design will have a significant amount of undulation along the streetscape side, including that elaborate grand staircase entrance. Another note which I greatly appreciated was that the large 60 foot-plus mature trees along the streetside will remain intact.

I wish I was there to actually walk the plot, but it does sound like this project will be a significant improvement over what is currently in existence. I do agree with the developers also, that a couple of the previous developments were excessive density and improperly designed for the nature for that particular neighborhood. Kind of like what we've seen pop up recently in Sugar House. I've seen far too much of the excessively designed density here in historic neighborhoods of Central L.A. This development to me, if executed as described will be striking the right balance.

delts145 · #**5744** Posted **Mar 20, 2016, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by ungerdog

I came to Salt Lake City for a couple of days for the Bsides show. This was taken on March 10th from the 12th floor of the Hilton City Center.

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HandsomeJohn · #**5745** Posted **Mar 20, 2016, 8:04 PM**

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Anyone have an update on the latest between DDRM and SL County? Any timeline on an announcement or renderings?

Right now they will still be negotiating a term sheet with the mayor's office (unless someone has heard that this is done?). They have to finish negotiations before anything "starts" or is released. The Term sheet negotiation is the stage of the processthat Omni and the Mayor's office had a "falling out." No official timeline was given on how long negotiations were allowed to take. (The county did mention to me that they would be expedited in comparison to the 4 months Omni was given)

s.p.hansen · #**5746** Posted **Mar 20, 2016, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

Talk about cliché. So on the east side of the tracks you've got all of these great developments springing up like crazy, but the west side is definitely the "wrong side of the tracks" at the moment. Hopefully, all of the development on the east side will soon spill over onto the west.

Great photo update Sean!

It was fun to do a really comprehensive photo update of that area. A lot has happened and is happening! That hole in the new viaduct wall kind of blew my mind. Like it took a crazy amount of force for that to happen.

The West side has had a lot of lack luster development. Though Sixth North is really quite good.

It's crazy how underdeveloped the East side of the tracks has been; I know that a lot of it had to do with a lot more rail road tracks covering it.

The areas in red are being developed now and the orange area will be soon enough with that office building. Once that's all done I predict we'll see both sides of the tracks filling up pretty fast.

s.p.hansen · #**5747** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 4:10 AM**

The former Wonder Bread building near Trolley Square bites the dust.

Liberty Wellsian · #**5748** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 6:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

I think the liberty park area is an ideal place for some low to mid rise, high density condos and apartments. Close to a big park, trolls square, near down town. I'm not much of a city condo or apartment guy, but I would imagine that would be an ideal place for a city lover. That area or near the avenues would be my choice to live. Hopefully the new development near trolley square will be a success that will spur more growth there. Does anyone have any information on that area?

I lived just north of Liberty Park for a couple years. I really enjoyed the neighborhood. I agree that it would be a perfect place for more density.

I would like to see the city change the zoning for the two blocks directly north of the park. Instead of having height restrictions have a minimum height to width ratio. Something like a building widest dimension cannot exceed that buildings height. So let's say a developer wanted to put in a building that had a footprint of 80x100 then that building would need to be 100 feet tall to meet the zoning requirement.

UTPlanner · #**5749** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 3:55 PM**

The blocks to the north of Liberty Park are located in the Central City Historic District and most structures are protected from demolition. Having said that, it does not mean that the neighborhood could not add density though other means such as the allowance of accessory dwelling units.

Future Mayor · #**5750** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 8:00 PM**

While I understand the need for the Central City Historic District, I think there needs to be ways to allow for more density in the blocks surrounding Liberty Park. Yes ADU's is a way to add some density, but it doesn't add that much in the grand scheme of things. While the new butcher shop near the corner of 9th and 5th will be a nice addition to the neighborhood, I think the corner parcel (the former garage) would have been an ideal location for some added density, even if just 3-5 stories tall, with a Historic Committee review required to add to the surrounding neighborhood, instead of taking away from it.

I love the Beans and Brews on the SW corner of that same intersection, but it is a very underutilized parcel. That could easily be redeveloped 3-5 stories, adding some density, while still providing a retail space on the ground floor for Beans and Brews.

Other corners that could stand some increase in density:
SW and SE corners of 13th and 5th.
SW corner of 13th and 4th.
All four corner of 13th and 3rd (1/4 mile from the park) there would be a billboard fight on the SE corner though.
SE and SW corner of 9th and Denver St.
SE and SW 7th and 7th.
NE and SW of 13th S 9th E.

The hard part about the surrounding neighborhoods is that there are plenty of structures that should probably come down and are well past any historic significance, if they ever were, but balancing that against historic stock, that should stay and projecting those against land bankers that come in, but the property and let it deteriorate, (APS) until it is beyond usable condition.

I am curious if there is a way to take an inventory of present conditions in the surrounding neighborhoods, and allow for targeted redevelopment on specific properties based on that present condition. I'm not advocating for 3-5 story buildings on the residential streets, but maybe the addition of some row houses, on distressed/dilapidated properties. I realize that is a fine line
based on appearance and a judgement call, but in all honesty there are some houses that really need to be torn down, and used for a better purpose.

delts145 · #**5751** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 8:06 PM**

Just a note about the Mighty Five Commercials. Don't know if you guys get the same amount of coverage along the Wasatch as we do here in California, being that it's home turf there. Anyway, the new commercials play constantly now, and are very impressive. It's amazing how familiar people have become with Utah's surreal scenery. At least that's the case here in Southern California.

Orlando · #**5752** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

Just a note about the Mighty Five Commercials. Don't know if you guys get the same amount of coverage along the Wasatch as we do here in California, being that it's home turf there. Anyway, the new commercials play constantly now, and are very impressive. It's amazing how familiar people have become with Utah's surreal scenery. At least that's the case here in Southern California.

Ya, I heard them a lot in Portland, and also lots of ads for Moab. Up here in Seattle, I mostly ride transit and therefore listen to the radio that much. I do remember seeing ads for the Lassonde Institute, though.

jedikermit · #**5753** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

Just a note about the Mighty Five Commercials. Don't know if you guys get the same amount of coverage along the Wasatch as we do here in California, being that it's home turf there. Anyway, the new commercials play constantly now, and are very impressive. It's amazing how familiar people have become with Utah's surreal scenery. At least that's the case here in Southern California.

I've never seen one here in the local markets; last time I was in DC, I swear there was one every commercial break. Maybe it was just the channel I happened to be watching.

Dallas Snob · #**5754** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 8:35 PM**

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WOW! Salt Lake looks incredibly dense and mature in this picture. My heart was jumping when I saw this pic. Instant hard-on. LOL

delts145 · #**5755** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by jedikermit

I've never seen one here in the local markets; last time I was in DC, I swear there was one every commercial break. Maybe it was just the channel I happened to be watching.

They probably target major markets like D.C., So. Cal. and New York more than fly over markets. I think I remember them saying something about a big push on Texas now. Looks like Europe, particularly England will be getting a major blitz coming up this year. I wonder if the Paris area is receiving the same attention. I heard that European visitor traffic to Utah is very good.

ToysNoiz · #**5756** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dallas Snob

WOW! Salt Lake looks incredibly dense and mature in this picture. My heart was jumping when I saw this pic. Instant hard-on. LOL

People forget.. while the area of downtown SLC is small, it is very dense compared to other cities of similar size.

jedikermit · #**5757** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 11:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dallas Snob

WOW! Salt Lake looks incredibly dense and mature in this picture. My heart was jumping when I saw this pic. Instant hard-on. LOL

Glad I'm not the only one who has...reactions...to cities.

Stenar · #**5758** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 12:54 AM**

After just removing a lot of heavy masonry, do they really need to put up a bunch more heavy masonry on this parking garage? I was really hoping they were going to do something unique here.

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asies1981 · #**5759** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

Talk about cliché. So on the east side of the tracks you've got all of these great developments springing up like crazy, but the west side is definitely the "wrong side of the tracks" at the moment. Hopefully, all of the development on the east side will soon spill over onto the west.

Great photo update Sean!

Pic By S.P.Hansen

Some good stuff is coming the West side as well. That area is going to be transformed over the next few years.

Utah_Dave · #**5760** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 2:38 AM**

I've been wondering how the rise and planned developments of Sandy, Draper, and Lehi will affect the timeline of Salt lakes growth? Has Salt lake been loosing out on some companies setting up shop downtown? Or not really? Is there enough growth to go around to see all these ambitions thru? It would be nice to see salt lake get some of these big name head quarters downtown. It seems a lot of you are in the know. How does the competition between these cities play out? I've always been curious if there's real competion from these cities to land some company headquarters or not.