The Great Canadian Skyline Thread! - Page 435

Martin Mtl · #**8681** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Architecturally, anyway!

Not just architecturally actually. Surprisingly, Montrealers are like a mashup of Parisians, Londoners and Americans. We have a "weird" mixture of latin's exuberance and British's reserve/politeness. We have inherited traits of both ancestry and adapted them as a North American version of it. I could go on, but my english is too limited to develop my thinking properly about all this.

Acajack · #**8682** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

Not just architecturally actually. Surprisingly, Montrealers are like a mashup of Parisians, Londoners and Americans. We have a "weird" mixture of latin's exuberance and British's reserve/politeness. We have inherited traits of both ancestry and adapted them as a North American version of it. I could go on, but my english is too limited to develop my thinking properly about all this.

I don't really disagree.

There is a probably a bit of Napolitano thrown into the mix as well.

mistercorporate · #**8683** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

No one called Toronto out for them, it was just pointed out that they're there. No one sees it as a problem except maybe you and a few others. You're just being silly.

And yes, Montreal has SFHs very close to the downtown or even technically in its downtown (if you count parts of Westmount as part of downtown).

Big deal.

Wah, wah, wah, blah, blah, blah...

Keep trolling...18,000 posts in 9 years....*smh*...

Acajack · #**8684** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by mistercorporate

Wah, wah, wah, blah, blah, blah...

Keep trolling...18,000 posts in 9 years....*smh*...

If say "416 area code = Manhattan Island" will that make you happier?

Beedok · #**8685** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 7:58 PM**

At least you guys don't have this:

http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/planning/master-plans/lebreton-flats

Acajack · #**8686** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 8:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

At least you guys don't have this:

http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/planning/master-plans/lebreton-flats

Who is "you guys" and what are you referring to? The 40-year screw-up that is Lebreton Flats?

someone123 · #**8687** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 8:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

If say "416 area code = Manhattan Island" will that make you happier?

Here's an attempt at summarizing the chain of SSP events that led to this:

1: Isn't it funny that people in Vancouver ask people from places like Halifax about moving to the "big city"?
2: This perspective is partly a weird cultural quirk, not just a consequence real differences between the cities
3: Toronto really is different. It has a certain je ne sais quoi that Kitchener does not.
4: Is Toronto really that different? Here's one example of the similarities: it has houses within a short walk of downtown, just like Montreal. Here's photo evidence of both.
5: Montreal has houses near downtown too. Why does Toronto always get singled out?

Acajack · #**8688** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

Here's an attempt at summarizing the chain of SSP events that led to this:

1: Isn't it funny that people in Vancouver ask people from places like Halifax about moving to the "big city"?
2: This perspective is partly a weird cultural quirk, not just a consequence real differences between the cities
3: Toronto really is different. It has a certain je ne sais quoi that Kitchener does not.
4: Is Toronto really that different? Here's one example of the similarities: it has houses within a short walk of downtown, just like Montreal. Here's photo evidence.
5: Montreal has houses near downtown too. Why does Toronto always get singled out?

I will sign a piece of paper in blood that says the area comprised within the 416 area code is virtually identical to the amalgam of the best of Manhattan, London and Paris... if it makes it stop.

Beedok · #**8689** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 8:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Who is "you guys" and what are you referring to? The 40-year screw-up that is Lebreton Flats?

Both Toronto and Montreal.

And yes, the ongoing mess that is Lebreton Flats. It's kills the connectivity between Downtown Ottawa and anywhere to the west or Gatineau.

Also disasters like this: https://goo.gl/maps/SQWwHkKmucN2

(Assuming I'm reading the cause of this argument correctly. I might not be. This forum is hard to follow sometimes...)

Martin Mtl · #**8690** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 8:55 PM**

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someone123 · #**8691** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 9:11 PM**

I think Montreal's skyline is challenging to capture in the sense that it looks different from different angles, and if you see only one of these you can get a very warped impression of what the city is like. Partly this is due to Mount Royal, which is a convenient lookout but makes the city seem kind of small, and partly I think it's due to the fact that there isn't a huge height difference between the tallest office towers and areas 5 or 10 blocks away. The 200 meter buildings look more impressive in a telephoto shot setting them in a sea of bungalows than they do next to a bunch of 80 meter apartment buildings.

The older medium-density areas filled with 100+ year old 4-8 storey buildings, and then flats beyond that, are really what make the city though (along with, probably, all of the uncelebrated 60's and 70's concrete highrises that house a good number of the people who keep the street life going). And the metro, which you can't see at all.

SkahHigh · #**8692** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 9:20 PM**

Unbelievable how you can really see almost every single project in this picture... Wow.

Rico Rommheim · #**8693** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 10:18 PM**

I love that picture. It shows what Montreal's downtown is all about. Midrise density hidden behind a thin curtain of tall-ish towers, all sloping downwards towards the river.

Here's a picture from 1964 showing the beginning of the downtown's midrise densification.

The Chemist · #**8694** Posted **Dec 3, 2015, 11:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

It's kind of like bits of Moscow, Chicago, and Shanghai to me. More of the latter two, but something Moscow going on. (I think it's the pseudo-commie blocks surrounding the vaguely Stalinist Canada Life Building).

Not sure what of Shanghai you see in those pictures, because I definitely don't see it. High density, sure, but the buidling designs are all wrong.

G.S MTL · #**8695** Posted **Dec 4, 2015, 12:11 AM**

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this is the photo I was looking for!!! Merci Martin!!

now thats Montreal !!!

isotack · #**8696** Posted **Dec 4, 2015, 1:25 AM**

This is how a Toronto guy shoots Vancouver!

[/url]P1120185 by Isotack, on Flickr[/IMG]

Beedok · #**8697** Posted **Dec 4, 2015, 1:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Chemist

Not sure what of Shanghai you see in those pictures, because I definitely don't see it. High density, sure, but the buidling designs are all wrong.

New and glassy on top of commie blocks.

Innsertnamehere · #**8698** Posted **Dec 4, 2015, 2:11 AM**

Great shot of Montreal.

Infrequent Poster · #**8699** Posted **Dec 4, 2015, 2:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by isotack

This is how a Toronto guy shoots Vancouver!

[/url]P1120185 by Isotack, on Flickr[/IMG]

Very nice picture. I wish they made mnp tower another 30-50 metres taller.

lio45 · #**8700** Posted **Dec 4, 2015, 2:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

Not just architecturally actually. Surprisingly, Montrealers are like a mashup of Parisians, Londoners and Americans. We have a "weird" mixture of latin's exuberance and British's reserve/politeness. We have inherited traits of both ancestry and adapted them as a North American version of it. I could go on, but my english is too limited to develop my thinking properly about all this.

When coming back from France, one kinda realizes that we Québécois are mostly just French-speaking Americans, rather than Frenchmen living in the New World.