Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[JAMESEY271975]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Except that he actually did go door to door, a few days a week for months. So don't accuse him of being absent when that isn't the case.

I would love to know what % of Ralphs time was spent planning bicycle lanes that are totally ignored by drivers and bicyclists alike.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by Orlando

Did he win?

No.

[Viperlord]

http://www.slcdocs.com/Planning/Open%20Houses/2015/1119.pdf
SALT LAKE CITY PLANNING DIVISION
OPEN HOUSE
November 19, 2015 at 4:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.
City & County Building
451 S State Street, 4th Floor Hallway
Salt Lake City, Utah


ON THE AGENDA........

Height Amendments to the D-4 Zoning District - A request by Mayor Ralph Becker to amend city code to increase the building height in the D-4 zoning district in anticipation of a future convention center hotel. The D-4 zoning district has a permitted height of 75 feet and conditional height of up to 125 feet. It is likely that a future hotel, regardless of where in the D-4 zoning district it may be placed, will require more height than what is allowed. The amendment will affect Section 21A.30.045 titled D-4 Downtown Secondary Central Business District. Related provisions of Title 21A-Zoning may also be amended as part of this petition. (Staff contact is Molly Robinson at 801-535-7261 or [email protected]) Case Number PLNPCM2015-00676

[MarioTabares]

Originally Posted by HellToSell

This may be terribly late..... But I wanted to say, I wish there was another observation deck in SL. The one in the COB only faces north, away from the skyline, and the Salt Lake Valley as a whole, too bad we don't have a better one... Just throwing that out there.


Also, Hello Forum! I've been following for a long time, and finally decided to start posting. I'll be in from time to time.

Hello guys this is my first post, I been follow the forum for some years now.

I work for the Red Lion Hotel in downtown, I'm a Maintenance engineer oe whatever they call it. The hotel has been planning a renovation of the north building for about a year. the south building was renovated about 2 years ago,
the renovation will be for rooms an the lobby area. but they are planning to renovated the old sky bar a make it a convention area, the renovation dates has not been released just yet, they first said that should be start in the first days of december but now they are delayed for a new date. theres not redering of the rooms or the new convention area, but as soon as I now something I let you now.

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by Comrade

I don't expect Becker to go door-to-door...but he's been largely absent overall.

I guess he'll now have plenty of time for his pet projects.

I live in SLC. Jackie did not visit me. Is that why I didn't vote for her? Course not. I didn't vote for her because of what seems to me to be an anti-bike mentality. Add to that the reagan signs thing and I just can't support her. The new bike lanes have been an awesome improvement. My family can enjoy being outside. I don't have to load kids into the car to go to the park. We still need to make this city more friendly for bicyclist and pedestrians, I fear Biskupski will take us a step back.

[Highrise_Mike]

Originally Posted by JAMESEY271975

I would love to know what % of Ralphs time was spent planning bicycle lanes that are totally ignored by drivers and bicyclists alike.

I don't really know what you're talking about, in my experience the bike lanes have been working great. I have used them myself and the 300 S separated bike lane with the new protected intersection is awesome. I don't know how drivers can ignore those without driving their car over a 6" concrete curb wall. All the bike/ped planning in Salt Lake is making it an even better city to live and visit without being totally reliant on a car.

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by asies1981

Article on downtown growth, gaps in downtown vibrancy and how downtown SLC compares to peer cities.

I just perused the downtown master plan. It's nice. There is a lot in there that I've been hoping for for a long time. Turning the ninth south viaduct into a park, taming 5th and 6th, developing the massive parking lots, etc. I just hope the city delivers what the plan is selling.


http://www.slcdocs.com/Planning/Planning%20Commission/2015/Atta.pdf

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by MarioTabares

Hello guys this is my first post, I been follow the forum for some years now.

I work for the Red Lion Hotel in downtown, I'm a Maintenance engineer oe whatever they call it. The hotel has been planning a renovation of the north building for about a year. the south building was renovated about 2 years ago,
the renovation will be for rooms an the lobby area. but they are planning to renovated the old sky bar a make it a convention area, the renovation dates has not been released just yet, they first said that should be start in the first days of december but now they are delayed for a new date. theres not redering of the rooms or the new convention area, but as soon as I now something I let you now.

Welcome to the forum. If they are still on the voting kick it will be a while before many welcome you or any other newbies. :-) and thank you for the info.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by MarioTabares

Hello guys this is my first post, I been follow the forum for some years now.

I work for the Red Lion Hotel in downtown, I'm a Maintenance engineer oe whatever they call it. The hotel has been planning a renovation of the north building for about a year. the south building was renovated about 2 years ago,
the renovation will be for rooms an the lobby area. but they are planning to renovated the old sky bar a make it a convention area, the renovation dates has not been released just yet, they first said that should be start in the first days of december but now they are delayed for a new date. theres not redering of the rooms or the new convention area, but as soon as I now something I let you now.

Welcome to the Forum, we look forward to your continued input.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

http://www.slcdocs.com/Planning/Open%20Houses/2015/1119.pdf
SALT LAKE CITY PLANNING DIVISION
OPEN HOUSE
November 19, 2015 at 4:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.
City & County Building
451 S State Street, 4th Floor Hallway
Salt Lake City, Utah


ON THE AGENDA........

Height Amendments to the D-4 Zoning District - A request by Mayor Ralph Becker to amend city code to increase the building height in the D-4 zoning district in anticipation of a future convention center hotel. The D-4 zoning district has a permitted height of 75 feet and conditional height of up to 125 feet. It is likely that a future hotel, regardless of where in the D-4 zoning district it may be placed, will require more height than what is allowed. The amendment will affect Section 21A.30.045 titled D-4 Downtown Secondary Central Business District. Related provisions of Title 21A-Zoning may also be amended as part of this petition. (Staff contact is Molly Robinson at 801-535-7261 or [email protected]) Case Number PLNPCM2015-00676

For those not aware the following blocks are D-4:
The entire Abravanel/SP block
The portion of the block west of Abravanel that the SP occupies (the parcels fronting S. Temple are D-1)
Royal Wood Plaza block
The Triad Center block
The VIV block
The VIV Hotels block
The northern half of the Ginza/Ferrari Color block
The NE and NW corner of the ArtSpace block.

I think this is long overdue, I always felt that the 125' (conditional use) maximum height in the D-4 Zone was way to short and that there have been some missed opportunities due to that. One thing that is brought up in Planning and Development Design is the visual width of a street is reduced when the height of the adjacent buildings is taller than the width of the street.

For instance maybe the VIV hotels (formerly the ESA Hotels) could have been taller, yes they are wood on pedestal and maybe they couldn't have justified building higher, but I think it would have been nice for those to be a few stories taller. Maybe the cost to max out at the 125' didn't pencil out, but maybe it might have if they could have gone higher. 300 W is approximately 125-130' wide had the VIV hotel, particularly the Hyatt, been allowed to build higher, a 150' building would have helped to reduce the visual width of 300 W.

[urban.cyclist]

Originally Posted by Highrise_Mike

I don't really know what you're talking about, in my experience the bike lanes have been working great. I have used them myself and the 300 S separated bike lane with the new protected intersection is awesome. I don't know how drivers can ignore those without driving their car over a 6" concrete curb wall. All the bike/ped planning in Salt Lake is making it an even better city to live and visit without being totally reliant on a car.

These bike lanes have a lot of flaws. I'm glad they exist but they need some serious refinement along the eastern stretch. The first order of business should be to get did if the parking that hides cyclists using the lanes.

[JAMESEY271975]

Originally Posted by Highrise_Mike

I don't really know what you're talking about, in my experience the bike lanes have been working great. I have used them myself and the 300 S separated bike lane with the new protected intersection is awesome. I don't know how drivers can ignore those without driving their car over a 6" concrete curb wall. All the bike/ped planning in Salt Lake is making it an even better city to live and visit without being totally reliant on a car.

Try 500 E, 600 E after Liberty Park. There are some lovely murals of Bicycles on the road and i dont think ive ever seen a stream of cars driving patiently behind a cyclist on either one of them mate

[Future Mayor]

Speaking of the D-4 Zone change request in relation to the CCH, does anyone have any details about last weeks meeting with possible developers?

[Makid]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Speaking of the D-4 Zone change request in relation to the CCH, does anyone have any details about last weeks meeting with possible developers?

I am hopeful it went well. There were more than 2 dozen developers that have shown interest in the project prior to the meeting.

The meeting was to go over the RFP, walk the 2 locations offered within the RFP and to answer any questions that there might have been.

I didn't attend and haven't had a chance to talk to anyone that did attend. As soon as I have some information that I can share, I will post what I can.

[asies1981]

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

I just perused the downtown master plan. It's nice. There is a lot in there that I've been hoping for for a long time. Turning the ninth south viaduct into a park, taming 5th and 6th, developing the massive parking lots, etc. I just hope the city delivers what the plan is selling.


http://www.slcdocs.com/Planning/Planning%20Commission/2015/Atta.pdf

I really hope that the Downtown Master Plans vision comes to fruition.

[asies1981]

New study shows that Wasatch Front residents still prefer sprawl. The good news is that Salt Lake County residents tastes are moving away from sprawl.

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by urban.cyclist

These bike lanes have a lot of flaws. I'm glad they exist but they need some serious refinement along the eastern stretch. The first order of business should be to get did if the parking that hides cyclists using the lanes.

Gotta compromise somewhere. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Originally Posted by JAMESEY271975

Try 500 E, 600 E after Liberty Park. There are some lovely murals of Bicycles on the road and i dont think ive ever seen a stream of cars driving patiently behind a cyclist on either one of them mate

The only way I can see someone stating this is if they don't bike(ever) or they are too young/too new to SLC to remember how 3rd/5th/6th was just a few years ago. I'm pretty happy with the changes both as a driver and a bicyclist.

The city is nearing completion on the 17th south reconstruction. There will be a dedicated bike lane with no parking on the north(uphill side) and a shared bike lane/traffic lane with parking on the south(downhill side).

http://www.slcgov.com/transportation/1700S

[jedikermit]

It looks like they took down the cream-colored single story building that was behind Eat-A-Burger; there were trucks on site today taking debris away when I drove by. Didn't get the best look, but that's what it looked like from my angle.

[asies1981]

With all the talk about bike lanes, it looks like we need them downtown. GREENbike broke the national record for trips per bikes.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by asies1981

With all the talk about bike lanes, it looks like we need them downtown. GREENbike broke the national record for trips per bikes.

This is such fantastic new. The stats regarding reduced vehicle miles traveled and reduced pollution are pretty impressive. Now it's just time to expand the system. My suggested destinations. Trolley Sq, 9th & 9th, Liberty Park (multiple locations) Central 9th, Marmalade. Those destinations would most likely result in 10-15 additional stations.