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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 12:45 AM
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I don't think anybody here said any of those things you just said.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 12:47 AM
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I don't think anybody here said any of those things you just said.
So you don't have a list then, right?
     
     
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19 Duncan is pretty impressive. Looks Stantecish.


     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 12:52 AM
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And it speaks for itself in all it's PoMo 1990's style glory through renders.

Posted on the NationalPost.com
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 12:53 AM
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So you don't have a list then, right?
So nobody called it the worst building ever or worse then Hitler did they? Look at the image fill out your own list. I don't have the time now I'm off to the gym.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 12:59 AM
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So nobody called it the worst building ever or worse then Hitler did they? Look at the image fill out your own list. I don't have the time now I'm off to the gym.
Definitely sounded like it. Everyone was on the bandwagon calling it all names possible. I was just making an analogy, I hope you understand that I was being sarcastic.

Anyway, nevermind, obviously, you have nothing substantial to say as to why it's an ugly, ridiculous, awful design.

I like it. I think the whole complex looks great. I would only maybe revise the top of the building, making minor changes, but the whole complex and tower is awesome to me.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 2:06 AM
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Different opinions I guess. I see knockoff design elements haphazardly thrown onto three distinct stacked facades to form a poorly massed complex. It's a hack job through and through.
     
     
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It is quite hideous, imo, and it will (if built) look doubly ridiculous as the only skyscraper for miles around.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 3:39 AM
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It looks like what wouldve happened if a supertall was proposed in Mississauga in 2005.

Personally, Id like more emphasis on a high quality retail atrium/concourse, podium/street/interaction and landscaping. Somthing like Hullmark Center (or Vancouver's Telus House) with more setbacks would be much better than the current proposal.

I agree that 19 Duncan looks like Stantec. Very promising. I hope the lobby and lower floors of the podium are top quality.
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 3:51 AM
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That belongs in Montreal...

Quebec City, what the bloodclot are you thinking?? Don't screw up a good thing...at least it's not visible from the fortress!
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Oh well, you must be an expert in architectural design then. Because from an outside perspective, as someone who casually enjoy looking at tall buildings in general, I'm no way an expert on structural design or crappiness of materials, but from what I saw, it would be a spectacular tower. Good thing is, you're far from Quebec City, you won't have to throw up when you see the tower, you probably will never see it in person. Others, like me, living near the city, we'll enjoy our supertall tower.
I have been to QC multiple times and wouldn't ever want to see it have super tall buildings. It's' strengths are in its heritage and intelligent integration of modern designs. Don't try to be knock off Dubai. You're better than that.
     
     
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And it speaks for itself in all it's PoMo 1990's style glory through renders.

Posted on the NationalPost.com
Fuck. It's even worse than I remembered. It could almost be a fake Sim City 2000 skyscraper. Looks like a mix between a bad Vegas resort and 90's Dubai.
     
     
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19 Duncan is pretty impressive. Looks Stantecish.


Was going to say it looks like Stantec and I hadn't even read your comment yet.
     
     
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Finally...

Soil Testing at 81 Bay - 254 meters.

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/img_0046-2-jpg.54511/

Could it be?????? Sorry I didn't catch this post earlier.

Metrolinx, must be in these guys asses to get this thing started.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 2:41 PM
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Anyway, nevermind, obviously, you have nothing substantial to say as to why it's an ugly, ridiculous, awful design.
So are the posts above enough or would you like me to repeat what other forumers are saying in a list for you.

1. If you're going to be tall design something that doesn't already look tacky and dated
2. The 3D render doesn't make any sense, Like I've stated before the floors that flare out look like a cheap model deform job where no thought was put into how the cut off floors will work when it comes to the integration of the cladding and windows.
3. The spire looks like a cheap wind vein you can buy at a flea market for you garden.
4. The Spire consists of arching steel beams where the continuity is lost by how the roof has been left as a sharp angle.
5. It's surrounded buy smaller bulky office like buildings that appear to be copies of buildings that went up in the 80's and 90's in office parks around much larger metros.
6. The buildings in the foreground look like slightly modern versions of ugly apartment slabs with a strange 2 level office like structures plopped on top.
7. Why is it set back from the roads so far with grass in front of it. If you're going for large scale urban it should meet and engage the street.
8. Villes du Québec deserves much better. Going tall is fine in that location but when you look at all of the amazing new builds and proposals they've had over the past several years this just falls short. I'm glad it will probably never happen

I could probably ad more but I'm at work right now.


Other then saying you like it, do you have a list of what's so great about it? Perhaps I should start hounding you like you did until you tell us why it's better then Jesus and sliced bread?
     
     
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So are the posts above enough or would you like me to repeat what other forumers are saying in a list for you.

1. If you're going to be tall design something that doesn't already look tacky and dated
2. The 3D render doesn't make any sense, Like I've stated before the floors that flare out look like a cheap model deform job where no thought was put into how the cut off floors will work when it comes to the integration of the cladding and windows.
3. The spire looks like a cheap wind vein you can buy at a flea market for you garden.
4. The Spire consists of arching steel beams where the continuity is lost by how the roof has been left as a sharp angle.
5. It's surrounded buy smaller bulky office like buildings that appear to be copies of buildings that went up in the 80's and 90's in office parks around much larger metros.
6. The buildings in the foreground look like slightly modern versions of ugly apartment slabs with a strange 2 level office like structures plopped on top.
7. Why is it set back from the roads so far with grass in front of it. If you're going for large scale urban it should meet and engage the street.
8. Villes du Québec deserves much better. Going tall is fine in that location but when you look at all of the amazing new builds and proposals they've had over the past several years this just falls short. I'm glad it will probably never happen

I could probably ad more but I'm at work right now.


Other then saying you like it, do you have a list of what's so great about it? Perhaps I should start hounding you like you did until you tell us why it's better then Jesus and sliced bread?
THANK YOU. I'm slowly discovering why you guys have that opinion, and I want to learn about skyscraper science. This opened my eyes.
I'm sorry for being a dick earlier.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 3:02 PM
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I'm sorry for being a dick earlier.

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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 5:17 PM
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Speaking of dicks, that picture of it really reminds me of an erect one since the lowrise buildings kind of simulate a scrotum and the way that the cladding is sort of peeled back toward the top... well I probably don't need to continue.
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 5:19 PM
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Speaking of dicks, that picture of it really reminds me of an erect one since the lowrise buildings kind of simulate a scrotum and the way that the cladding is sort of peeled back toward the top... well I probably don't need to continue.
LOL. I did think about it.
     
     
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Finally...

Soil Testing at 81 Bay - 254 meters.

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/img_0046-2-jpg.54511/

Could it be?????? Sorry I didn't catch this post earlier.

Metrolinx, must be in these guys asses to get this thing started.
Metrolinx is like everyone else when it comes to planning staff.
     
     
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