Edmonton Construction 12 (December 2013) - Page 459

Rocket252 · #**9161** Posted **Aug 18, 2015, 10:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

A roof of any kind on Commonwealth would ruin the experience for me, CFL is about cold wintery games in oct/nov.

In the summer being outdoors is amazing.

There is little need outside of that given the costs or opportunity cost.

That's old thinking. It's all about fan comfort now. Better seats. More amenities. Non freezing temps.

Retractable roofs especially in a northern city like Edmonton are essential and provide the best of both worlds.

unfortunately when Commonwealth was built the usual lack of vision occurred and future capability to cover the stadium was scrapped.

Coldrsx · #**9162** Posted **Aug 18, 2015, 11:01 PM**

^ridiculous. Fans want an experience and a climate controlled CFL game means I am no longer a fan and my guess is many others.

Rocket252 · #**9163** Posted **Aug 18, 2015, 11:27 PM**

The retractable roof provides the best of both worlds and is essential for a city like Edmonton if it wants to move to the next level.

But alas With our lack of vision this city will remain in the second tier of cities in Canada.

Heck we are going to be second tier in Alberta never mind Canada.

So let's go out there in November when its minus 10 and cheer on those Esks.

EdmTrekker · #**9164** Posted **Aug 18, 2015, 11:29 PM**

I don't like freezing my nuts off...and would support City tax spending to cover Commonwealth...and I would pay an extra facility charge on my tickets. There is lots of new technology being introduced right now - particularly like what Minneapolis and Amsterdam have used which is translucent. We are never holding the Olympics so why not a translucent cover that allows grass to grow? They do exist.

Rocket252 · #**9165** Posted **Aug 18, 2015, 11:39 PM**

Apologies for being so strong on the subject but once that stadium gets built in Calgary there is going to be increasing pressure to have one here.

It is inevitable

Harrison · #**9166** Posted **Aug 18, 2015, 11:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

Apologies for being so strong on the subject but once that stadium gets built in Calgary there is going to be increasing pressure to have one here.

It is inevitable

Nothing has been officially announced yet in YYC, and if public funds will be requested, I bet the farm that a new facility will face more opposition there than Rogers Place did in YEG.

Black Star · #**9167** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 1:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

I don't like freezing my nuts off...and would support City tax spending to cover Commonwealth...and I would pay an extra facility charge on my tickets. There is lots of new technology being introduced right now - particularly like what Minneapolis and Amsterdam have used which is translucent. We are never holding the Olympics so why not a translucent cover that allows grass to grow? They do exist.

I would like to see a retractable roof also. Esks can still play in cooler temps with roof open. But lets say its -20 or some gawd awful temp....then by all means close it.

What about that cost thingy.

EdmTrekker · #**9168** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 1:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Black Star

I would like to see a retractable roof also. Esks can still play in cooler temps with roof open. But lets say its -20 or some gawd awful temp....then by all means close it.

What about that cost thingy.

Its only other peoples money...my share is insignificant lol. I am OK with a fixed or retractable roof. Maybe we can talk Katz into building something new in the 45K seat range in the lots he has north of the arena...in a new CRL district - god knows it needs improvement.

Black Star · #**9169** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

Its only other peoples money...my share is insignificant lol. I am OK with a fixed or retractable roof. Maybe we can talk Katz into building something new in the 45K seat range in the lots he has north of the arena...in a new CRL district - god knows it needs improvement.

I can totally see a Football Stadium north of ICE District. Don't know if it will happen. Imagine the possibilities.

dansk · #**9170** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Daveography

East side of QEII was to remain with Leduc County IIRC.

That portion was included in the annexation request if I read correctly.

Kokkei Mizu · #**9171** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 11:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by dansk

Very good news especially if this ends up in Edmonton's hands after annexation review.

It appears as though this is north of 41 Ave? If so, it is already inside Edmonton's border.

Spliff · #**9172** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 12:20 PM**

Da Bears still play in Soldier Field in Chicago (I think).

It gets fricken cold there and they still fill the stadium and people have a great time. How many climate controlled covered stadiums are iconic? For every well-done domed stadium there are 10 Astrodomes.

Calgary can have their covered stadium - the office tower types down there will need it. Actually, it perfectly suits there character.

Coldrsx · #**9173** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 1:02 PM**

^thank you

Rocket252 · #**9174** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 1:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spliff

Da Bears still play in Soldier Field in Chicago (I think).

It gets fricken cold there and they still fill the stadium and people have a great time. How many climate controlled covered stadiums are iconic? For every well-done domed stadium there are 10 Astrodomes.

Calgary can have their covered stadium - the office tower types down there will need it. Actually, it perfectly suits there character.

Got to love you romantic types and your football weather.

Well I have been going to outdoor games for a long time and am tired of freezing my junk off watching the games.

Commonwealth is a great stadium if it was situated in Florida or California but this is the great White North Folks and I am certainly not proud - I will take a retractable roofed stadium any day. Its a different world now and people don't want to freeze out there. Calgary is taking the right step and you will see a growing pressure here once their stadium gets built to move in the same direction.

Airboy · #**9175** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 4:21 PM**

Reading the online new services and commentary, it looks like the Calgary plan is going to see a lot of opposition. Hell even the NP is making comments like a group of rich guys are only pay 23% of the new facility. I don't expect this to get built in its current form anytime soon. The arena will get built but the Stadium may be a later add on.

As for Commonwealth It will eventually get updated or replaced. Remember during the Klein years there was talk of adding a roof.

s4.audios · #**9176** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 4:55 PM**

Commonwealth is very Iconic; yah our weather 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 sometimes but changing the stadium won't fill up the stands. It's a very beautiful stadium IMO and somthing to be proud of. I hope it never gets replaced or updated to look completely different.

vaportrail · #**9177** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

Got to love you romantic types and your football weather.

Well I have been going to outdoor games for a long time and am tired of freezing my junk off watching the games.

Commonwealth is a great stadium if it was situated in Florida or California but this is the great White North Folks and I am certainly not proud - I will take a retractable roofed stadium any day. Its a different world now and people don't want to freeze out there. Calgary is taking the right step and you will see a growing pressure here once their stadium gets built to move in the same direction.

I remember attending half a game in frigid blowing snow once. Never again.

The only way we'll get a dome is by hosting some kind of big-time international event with support from three levels of government. And if a dome significantly increases stadium usage by effectively doubling the operational period, it may well be worth it.

But for anyone to suggest that the Esks would lose more bums in the seats than gain due to a roof seems ... ill conceived.

The big advantage that Calgary's proposal has is that their new stadium is likely to be set up with variable-configuration stands closer to the field.

s4.audios · #**9178** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 6:29 PM**

Hasn't there been talks for a new soccer field for Edmonton FC? A smaller scale covered stadium for them would definitely help their attendance I'd say, and I'd fully support that. Nothing to replace Commonwealth though.

YegFan · #**9179** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by s4.audios

Commonwealth is very Iconic; yah our weather 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 sometimes but changing the stadium won't fill up the stands. It's a very beautiful stadium IMO and somthing to be proud of. I hope it never gets replaced or updated to look completely different.

really....this place is old and dated.....it requires so much in terms of upgrades.

s13 · #**9180** Posted **Aug 19, 2015, 6:36 PM**

The CFL is already assessing moving the season a few weeks to avoid those really chilly Nov games, and get more play time in the spring/summer months to draw more fans in to the games. If this were to happen, I'm sure the cost vs benefit (mentioned already by I think Iano) would be out the window for a retractable roof IMO.