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Originally Posted by esquire
It wasn't my regular seat, but I did sit there a number of times and it was awesome 
I will concede that the older buildings like Winnipeg Arena weren't always perfect, but more often than not it was the expanded parts (like the upper decks) that were substandard, not the original parts. Certainly the buildings from the mid 60s to late 80s are in great shape... a place like Rexall leaves little to be desired in my view, it's really just an issue of not having enough revenue generating facilities. This matters to ownership, but no so much to fans, particularly those who aren't there on expense accounts.
New arenas are a bit too flashy and mall-like for my tastes. The old places were 100% focused on the game. |
That's exactly what I mean though what revenue generating "mechanisms" does the new buildings of today (console,barclays,videotron) have that the bell centre and honda center lack? At what point does the the NHL (bettman) look at the SAP center and give it the same speech he gave rexall "No NHL team will play hockey in this building much longer"
To me I just don't see a huge difference from these 90's venues to the post 2010 venues. The bones of the buildings can stay around for 100 years and be in the same condition they were the day they were installed so does that mean once MSG gets replaced in 9 years we wont see another building in the NHL for 50+ years? The CTC is fine that whole "this place wasn't built to last 50 years" speech was bull! That is one of the leagues nicest building and to call it outdated as it approaches it's 20th birthday is just ridiculous. Posturing from the sens ownership, this isn't Atlanta. One could argue that rexall could house the Oilers perfectly fine for another 40 years.
Speaking of Rexall I can tell you that place looks amazing. The place is spotless. Like the MTS Centre, Edmonton has done a great job on keeping up with the building, The concrete walls in the bowl just makes it feel really old but I love that place I'm definetly gonna catch an oilers game when the jets are in town just to say goodbye to the ol girl (just in case). Ive been to all 3 California based teams and I can tell you they dont have the same mentality although sanjose's wasn't THAT bad. The worst by far was Nassau OMG was that a terrible rink in every way possible. Every bathroom you passes you swore you were gonna puke.
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Originally Posted by Nicko999
It's also part of our mentality here in Canada. Regina is building a new CFL stadium with exactly the same capacity as the old one(while there is demand for more).
THF is also a slight downsize in terms of total capacity over Ivor Wynne. Only IGF is an exception and even then it's only 3000 more seats.
At the end of the day, we shouldn't be afraid to build bigger stadiums. Back in the 1970's when leagues were making most of their revenues off tickets sales, the CFL was almost on par with the NFL because there were new massive stadiums being used (Commonwealth and Olympic). Having bigger capacity can only help the CFL grow.
EDIT: Not implying we should be building 50,000 stadiums all over the place for the sake of building them. We should however build newer AND bigger stadiums if the demand is there. I think 40k would have been ideal for new Mosaic for example.
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if this were true than why isnt commonwealth full? BC place? Rogers centre? Riders aren't even selling the seats they have at Mosaic right now.One of the entire end zone was practically empty on their home opener . They sure as hell didn't sell out the grey cup configuration out when it was available for regular season.
The trend in almost all sports is slimming down seating on existing buildings or building smaller than previous. It's just the way it's going. The CFL is a gate driven league so its extremely unfortunate for us but MLB,NFL,NBA,NHL all don't rely so heavily on ticket sales.
Again back to my post a few days ago. You older guys are stuck in the 70's "back in my day" mentality. It's a different world. All these stadiums being built are expandable if needed so don't worry.
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Worried about certain aspects of it though, definitely.
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