Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 136

UTPlanner · #**2701** Posted **May 11, 2015, 9:11 PM**

SLC Projects, seems like a bit of an overreaction. Can't please everybody, right?

I haven't given up on Omni completely. There are a million potential reasons why they appear to have put their bid on a bit of a hold. I won't be any more presumptuous then I already have been. This is a complex project; I personally will give them a little more time to figure their stuff out.

As to a location, I had heard that there was a lot of support for trying to site it somewhere on the existing Salt Palace footprint. This would help save on land costs but would impact operations of the convention center for some time.

jubguy3 · #**2702** Posted **May 11, 2015, 9:26 PM**

I feel like a helpless dog that has a blanket over itself and has no idea what's happening

Can someone summarize everything recently about CCC?

Makid · #**2703** Posted **May 11, 2015, 9:44 PM**

UTPlanner,

I do know the exact location for where they were/are wanting it to be tied into the existing footprint.

I haven't heard anything on this in a couple of months though.

The thought is that it would save up between $20 and $25 million in land acquisition costs.

I also have not given up hope on Omni yet. Even though no one has head from them, doesn't mean it isn't progressing. I am hopeful that we will hear something soon.

One thing that shouldn't be discounted is that for the size of SLC, we have a large amount of hotel rooms. The Salt Lake convention district has roughly 7,000 rooms. For comparison, Denver convention district has 8,500 rooms.

Also, the Salt Lake convention district hotel occupancy rates are currently averaging greater than 75% and spikes over 90% occur frequently.

With these numbers, I know that more hotels will be coming and they are also the main reason that I think Omni will still follow through.

We need to remember that the Omni spokesperson did say that ground breaking wouldn't happen until later this year (Late Fall/Winter). So even though news has dried doesn't mean that things aren't progressing.

ajiuO · #**2704** Posted **May 11, 2015, 10:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by jubguy3

I feel like a helpless dog that has a blanket over itself and has no idea what's happening

Can someone summarize everything recently about CCC?

There is a new store going in on the second floor. Not much else has happend since the Apple Store moved in like 2 years ago.

T-Stan · #**2705** Posted **May 11, 2015, 10:09 PM**

Marriott has been pushing for a new hotel on the corner of 100 South and West Temple for about 20 years. At one time, they were ready to move forward and may have even had some verbal agreements in place with property owners. From my understanding, they were quite close to making it happen in 2007 or so. The plan was to either build a second tower and connect to the existing Marriot or to build a separate hotel (JW Marriott or Renaissance). I think the City would still prefer to see the 1000 room hotel go to the east side instead of the west side of the convention center.

jubguy3 · #**2706** Posted **May 11, 2015, 10:18 PM**

Lol sorry I meant cch

ajiuO · #**2707** Posted **May 11, 2015, 10:23 PM**

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Lol sorry I meant cch

I know... I'm just messing with Ya... Iv made that same mistake a few times 😃

jedikermit · #**2708** Posted **May 11, 2015, 11:26 PM**

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I feel like a helpless dog that has a blanket over itself and has no idea what's happening

the post of the day.

EPdesign · #**2709** Posted **May 11, 2015, 11:35 PM**

does the Radisson count as being on the foot print? If not the only place(and I know it's not for sure) I can think of is 200s west temple. That would be an interesting place for a tower

Comrade · #**2710** Posted **May 12, 2015, 3:46 AM**

What is completed first - the La Porte project or the CCH?

bflatflat9 · #**2711** Posted **May 12, 2015, 5:21 AM**

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What is completed first - the La Porte project or the CCH?

Good question, and funny.
About a year and a half ago, I was saying the CCH would be done in late 2018, and most forumers thought that was too late.
Then about a half year ago, the City,State, County were saying mid to late 2018.
But now your question becomes valid....and funny.
I'm saying now that the CCH is done sometime in 2019.
The LaPorte?, flip a coin.
Let the Laporte one-liners begin.

ajiuO · #**2712** Posted **May 12, 2015, 5:14 PM**

Maybe it will just sit there like it is now for 15 years... The building that is now the Marriott residence Inn on 300 W. comes to mind. ;-)

Or maybe they will just tear it down and put a parking lot there.

asies1981 · #**2713** Posted **May 12, 2015, 7:31 PM**

I don't think it is time to panic yet about Omni. Working with a city and its bureaucracy can take time. In the mean time we might get two new hotels built, as we wait for the CCH.

asies1981 · #**2714** Posted **May 12, 2015, 7:32 PM**

Photo update of the Marmalade Branch.

Marvland · #**2715** Posted **May 13, 2015, 12:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

What is completed first - the La Porte project or the CCH?

Atlantis.

Marvland · #**2716** Posted **May 13, 2015, 1:03 AM**

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I've always felt that RWP was the best site, but I would be optimistic if ever for some reason the Zion's configuration were somehow in the mix...of course while maintaining the historic structures. Sounds though like the conspiracy theories are just fun and games to pass the time. Makid's comments sound pretty solid, and I don't have a problem with any of the sites he mentioned as probable possibilities.

I'm happy as long as it gets built. But as a catalyst for the westward growth of CBD, Royalwood wins in my mind. The Zions lots will get a tower someday anyway.

Ironweed · #**2717** Posted **May 13, 2015, 2:08 AM**

My understanding was that the Outdoor Convention will go elsewhere unless more convention and hotel space is built. Can the city afford to wait until 2018 and beyond?

delts145 · #**2718** Posted **May 13, 2015, 10:52 AM**

I'm assuming that the decision makers with the ORC are among the best informed as to weekly progress on the CCH. Hence, they're probably a lot less stressed than us, knowing that it's moving along at an appropriate pace.

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I'm happy as long as it gets built. But as a catalyst for the westward growth of CBD, Royalwood wins in my mind. The Zions lots will get a tower someday anyway.

Very much agree, probably more than one tower. That whole block has so much additional potential.

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Originally Posted by jubguy3

I feel like a helpless dog that has a blanket over itself and has no idea what's happening

Can someone summarize everything recently about CCC?

I second Jedi's nomination. Jubguy's post has to be one of my favorites in a long while. I still look back at it and get a laugh.

UTPlanner · #**2719** Posted **May 13, 2015, 3:28 PM**

asies1981, I will be the first to admit that city and/or general local government bureaucracy can be a huge impediment to growth and development, in this case, I think the city has not been the issue. In talks with city representatives on the selection committee, Omni has canceled meetings and refuses to reschedule them. At this point, we are just waiting to hear back from them.

The library looks great thus far. I know the townhomes are progressing through the approval process. I have yet to see anything about further development on the block. I like Clearwater Homes and think they have done a great job with the projects they have completed in SLC. I'm excited to see these projects move forward.

delts145 · #**2720** Posted **May 13, 2015, 4:28 PM**

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SLC Projects, seems like a bit of an overreaction. Can't please everybody, right?

I hope after Projects has had a little time to cool down he'll be back. I enjoy having him around, particularly his usually predictable passion for development.