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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 2:02 AM
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I found this shot of Hamilton on twitter. It's a couple years old, but it's a really good angle...


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I just noticed you can sort of see the Mowhawk Rd. 'skyline' back there.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 2:34 AM
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Awesome Hamilton aerial!



Speaking of aerials.. I found some great shots of Winnipeg taken by Dan Harper.

Esquire posted some of them on the very first page of the thread, but I just stumbled across the whole set and was blown away by some of them, so I'm throwing a few more up that weren't posted before (as far as I'm aware)




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the whole set can be seen here
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 3:29 AM
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 4:35 AM
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I've probably mentioned this on this forum before, but it's always weird to see how insignificant the escarpment looks in photos of Hamilton from the air. It is such a looming physical and psychological presence wherever you are when you're downtown, and it cuts the city into two halves so very decisively, but in pictures like this it's barely noticeable.
I think the trees are part of the reason for that - all that green masks the "vertical" and makes it look mostly like a ribbon of forest. Plus from the air the ~100m or so of height differential is not as dramatic (though it's considerably less in places where the lower city slopes up to meet the base)

Perhaps if it were more of a bare cliff-face with a straight drop along most of its length it would look different from the air.

As an aside... I've always thought it would be neat if the escarpment in Hamilton was more similar in height to what it is near Collingwood (about twice the vertical). The city probably would have eventually grown southward anyway, but would it be very different from today? Or just minor differences, like the access roads.
     
     
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Is Winnipeg building a new Arena? What are the large under construction covered building(s) in the downtown aerials above? They look impressive.
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Winnipeg convention centre expansion.
     
     
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Why does the river in Winnipeg always look brown and dirty-looking compared to other places like Edmonton, Calgary, Montreal, Ottawa, Sask...? Is it because the bottom is more "mudd" than anything or..?
     
     
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Why does the river in Winnipeg always look brown and dirty-looking compared to other places like Edmonton, Calgary, Montreal, Ottawa, Sask...? Is it because the bottom is more "mudd" than anything or..?
Yes. The name "Winnipeg" comes from the Cree term for murky/muddy water... the river has a muddy floor so it always has that brownish tinge. I'd wager it has been that way for hundreds if not thousands of years.

To my eyes it appears that river appears muddier and more obviously brown when the river levels are high, and that appears to be the case in those pictures. It's unfortunate because even though the river is not particularly dirty by urban river standards, it has a pretty unappealing colour... visitors I've spoken with have assumed that it is filthy to the point of being toxic when that's not the case.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 2:25 PM
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Why does the river in Winnipeg always look brown and dirty-looking compared to other places like Edmonton, Calgary, Montreal, Ottawa, Sask...? Is it because the bottom is more "mudd" than anything or..?
Both rivers have completely muddy bottoms. Very mucky. I may be wrong but I believe the name "Red River" means muddy waters.
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Wow seeing Winnipeg right after Hamilton is such a contrast. Though both are similar populations, Winnipeg looks like its on an entirely different level.

The river does look ugly. I've always wondered why it was brown myself. I believe Moncton has the thing right?
     
     
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I found this shot of Hamilton on twitter. It's a couple years old, but it's a really good angle...


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My first impression was "where's the skyline?" but I didn't want to be sarcastic...

But honestly it does look really small from this angle. Even moreso than the usual views we get from the mountain.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 3:21 PM
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My first impression was "where's the skyline?" but I didn't want to be sarcastic...

But honestly it does look really small from this angle. Even moreso than the usual views we get from the mountain.
In fairness, it does look as though the picture was taken from a fairly high altitude... most cities look pretty piddly once you get above a couple thousand feet up.
     
     
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The rivers remind me of the one in Moncton which is also a muddy mess. Although Winnipeg has the advantage of having a nice tree-lined shore while Moncton's river is just lined with marshland due to being a flood channel.
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Yes. The name "Winnipeg" comes from the Cree term for murky/muddy water... the river has a muddy floor so it always has that brownish tinge. I'd wager it has been that way for hundreds if not thousands of years.

To my eyes it appears that river appears muddier and more obviously brown when the river levels are high, and that appears to be the case in those pictures. It's unfortunate because even though the river is not particularly dirty by urban river standards, it has a pretty unappealing colour... visitors I've spoken with have assumed that it is filthy to the point of being toxic when that's not the case.
The river in my hometown is like this too, brown because of mud. It too damages perceptions of the community.
     
     
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^ Same in Edmonton; people are utterly convinced that the brown colour means the river is dirty and polluted, when the fact is that it is actually the cleanest it has been since European settlement of this area, and don't understand that that is actually a natural colour for a river.

The basis for comparison is of course the beautiful aqua blues of mountain rivers and streams, which actually get their colour from sediment in the water itself. Ironically, when an occasional heavy runoff from the mountains occurs, it actually puts more strain on filtering for municipal water services to remove the sediment.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 5:53 PM
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^ Same in Edmonton; people are utterly convinced that the brown colour means the river is dirty and polluted, when the fact is that it is actually the cleanest it has been since European settlement of this area, and don't understand that that is actually a natural colour for a river.

The basis for comparison is of course the beautiful aqua blues of mountain rivers and streams, which actually get their colour from sediment in the water itself. Ironically, when an occasional heavy runoff from the mountains occurs, it actually puts more strain on filtering for municipal water services to remove the sediment.
Calgary has it pretty good from this standpoint... the Bow is often an impressive shade of blue as people expect rivers to be.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2015, 5:58 PM
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The Ottawa, Gatineau and Rideau rivers are generally blue-green.
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