Lansdowne Park Redevelopment Phase 1 | Completed

[kevinbottawa]

I don't think businesses should be able to open on holidays just because they want to. Essential services, absolutely. Businesses are almost always going to make decisions based on profit. Having a few days a year where we promote businesses being closed and people spending time with loved ones is a good thing in my opinion.

[HighwayStar]

Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

Having a few days a year where we promote businesses being closed and people spending time with loved ones is a good thing in my opinion.

And how about those without custody of their "loved ones" on holidays... especially "family day".

just doubles the pain.

[phil235]

Originally Posted by Mulder

IMO, it's also time to do away with our current religious holiday system.
We should have a fixed & floating system.
Fixed dates would be things like New Years - Family Day - Canada Day - Labour Day - Remembrance Day (Yes, I feel this should be a stat in Ontario)

While floating stat days can be used at the discretion of the employee, with some provisions given for companies that choose not to operate (such as staffing issues), so while Christians can celebrate Christmas, Muslims can celebrate Eid, Jewish - Yom Kippur, etc etc. to a maximum amount, and make sure the gov. has a list of recognized religious holidays.

It could be a tough change, I doubt it will happen for that reason. But in the end would be the right move.

In principle this makes some sense, but there are more implications than you would think. For instance, what would we do in the case of schools, who take two weeks at Christmas so all students can be home with their families? Do we have students floating in and out depending on their religion?

Many of our social institutions are set up around a common set of holidays that would have very little meaning to people if you moved them to an arbitrary day (Family Day?). You are talking about a pretty significant systemic change that is not likely to be entirely positive. I think in the zeal to de-religion everything we are losing a big chunk of our traditions and history, which remain very important regardless of the original reason they came into being. Christmas and Thanksgiving are historically important in Canada, and I don't think that you eliminate those holidays just for the sake of reaching an ideal state of affairs. You can pretty much achieve the same end with floating holidays to accommodate other religions.

[phil235]

Originally Posted by HighwayStar

And how about those without custody of their "loved ones" on holidays... especially "family day".

just doubles the pain.

Not to be rude, but this is a ridiculous point. We shouldn't give the vast majority of people a minimum amount of time to spend with loved ones because some people don't have custody of their kids?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

I don't think businesses should be able to open on holidays just because they want to. Essential services, absolutely. Businesses are almost always going to make decisions based on profit. Having a few days a year where we promote businesses being closed and people spending time with loved ones is a good thing in my opinion.

IMO, I think business should have the option of opening on stat holidays (except Christmas Day, New Years Day, and maybe Thanksgiving), provided that employees of the business are willing to work on a voluntary basis at overtime rate (not forced).

Let the people who aren't working decide how they want to spend their day.

[MountainView]

.... So how about that Lansdowne stuff. Has anyone tried the new VIP Cineplex Theaters yet... ? Interested to hear your opinions. Cheers.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by JCL

IMO, I think business should have the option of opening on stat holidays (except Christmas Day, New Years Day, and maybe Thanksgiving), provided that employees of the business are willing to work on a voluntary basis at overtime rate (not forced).

Let the people who aren't working decide how they want to spend their day.

Why would we make exceptions? If we are going to not observe certain statutory holidays anymore, why not open up every day? After all, why is Christmas Day really any different from Easter? They are both Christian holidays. On the other side, why would we allow stores to open on Labour Day? That seems so contrary to the purpose of that holiday. And I guess Canada Day is now meaningless as well. Just remember the stupidity of a few years ago, when the July 1st statutory holiday was moved to a Monday. How can we really celebrate holidays, when half the workforce is expected to work?

As far as paying time and a half on statutory holidays, the obligations under Ontario Labour laws appear to be different from that. It seems to be some complicated formula based on pay earned during the previous 4 weeks. Regardless, it is another sad commentary on society that we actually provide an incentive to work on statutory holidays. Sure, it makes sense to have this for essential jobs but retail is far from that. The comments about people working for minimum wage really is a statement about the minimum wage itself and the failure of companies to pay a living wage to their employees. This is something that is far worse in the United States where minimum wages have lagged badly leaving so many people in dire straits.

Where is this leading us when we cannot amuse ourselves without shopping and when we cannot plan our shopping around a few statutory holidays a year? The consumerism that is being promoted is leading families into more and more debt. Believe me, I am not here to preach to everybody about this but it is fact, that household debt is increasing.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by acottawa

Personally I think good Friday is a poor choice for a holiday. It is not a holiday in the US or Quebec (or or many other traditionally-Christian countries) and the complicated way it is calculated causes a lot of confusion.

The way Easter is tied to the lunar cycle creates too much variability. IMO, Good Friday & Easter Sunday should not be stat holidays, instead a fixed weekend (like say, the second Friday of April) should be designated as a stat holiday in its place.

[passwordisnt123]

This discussion has drifted so far off course, it's going to need a compass, a sextant and an astrolabe to get back to Lansdowne

[phil235]

Originally Posted by MountainView

.... So how about that Lansdowne stuff. Has anyone tried the new VIP Cineplex Theaters yet... ? Interested to hear your opinions. Cheers.

Going this week. My wife was there yesterday and the reviews were all positive. Apparently the seats are very cushy.

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by passwordisnt123

This discussion has drifted so far off course, it's going to need a compass, a sextant and an astrolabe to get back to Lansdowne

Teehee, you said Sextant.

Also, How about the grief that Henry Burris is having with Immigration? Will this have an effect on the Red-Blacks season? If they go the way of the Leafs, how will that play into money flow of the surrounding businesses? And anyone have tickets they dont want?

[Stevenson]

Henry Burris isn't even good anymore

[loga0082]

Dear Mountainview:

I went to the Lansdowne park cinemas on Sunday to see Cinderella. It is run by cineplex like Silvercity is. The seats felt like cushions and I could stretch my legs very well. I just went to the regular movie theatre not the VIP. The regular size plain popcorn, small coke, and a package of little twixes are the same price as the Silvercity. One regular adult ticket cost me about $13or $14. The bathrooms look very nice. As I saw in they were advertising in the VIP screens, I did see a waitor serve a plate of food and a drink to the client in the movie theatre. I probably go there again to see another movie.

Loga0082

[waterloowarrior]

Some recent building pemits
-Tenant fitup- Building B - Unit B104- Industria Restaurant)
-Construct a patio addition - trellises, bench seating and bocce court (Local Public Eatery Restaurant - Lansdowne)
-Tenant fit-up on the 2nd floor of a 2 storey building (Lansdowne, Horticulture Building) (Office)
-Exterior alterations to the patio at the front of a 3 storey restaurant (Milestones)
-Tenant Fit-up in a 3 storey retail building (Gabriel Pizza, Unit#117, Building C)
-Construct a patio addition (Joey Lansdowne Restaurant)

[citydwlr]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Some recent building pemits
-Tenant fitup- Building B - Unit B104- Industria Restaurant)
-Construct a patio addition - trellises, bench seating and bocce court (Local Public Eatery Restaurant - Lansdowne)
-Tenant fit-up on the 2nd floor of a 2 storey building (Lansdowne, Horticulture Building) (Office)
-Exterior alterations to the patio at the front of a 3 storey restaurant (Milestones)
-Tenant Fit-up in a 3 storey retail building (Gabriel Pizza, Unit#117, Building C)
-Construct a patio addition (Joey Lansdowne Restaurant)

Cool! Should create a nice atmosphere in the summers with all of the patios! Where is Local going to put the Bocce court - doesn't that need some grass or gravel?

That Industria Brasserie looks like it'll serve up Italian fare, including wood oven pizza... More pizza?!

[loga0082]

[QUOTE=citydwlr;6981384]Cool! Should create a nice atmosphere in the summers with all of the patios! Where is Local going to put the Bocce court - doesn't that need some grass or gravel?

That Industria Brasserie looks like it'll serve up Italian fare, including wood oven pizza... More pizza?![/

It would be lovely to have patios outside in the summer at Lansdowne park. Enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. You can even have a view of the green park and the Aberdeen building, when you eat outside. Where is building A? Is it where the sporting life is located? Is the Structube going to become the furniture shop? Where is the Private high school going to be exactly located? N

Loga0082

[phil235]

[QUOTE=loga0082;6981440]

Originally Posted by citydwlr

Cool! Should create a nice atmosphere in the summers with all of the patios! Where is Local going to put the Bocce court - doesn't that need some grass or gravel?

That Industria Brasserie looks like it'll serve up Italian fare, including wood oven pizza... More pizza?![/

It would be lovely to have patios outside in the summer at Lansdowne park. Enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. You can even have a view of the green park and the Aberdeen building, when you eat outside. Where is building A? Is it where the sporting life is located? Is the Structube going to become the furniture shop? Where is the Private high school going to be exactly located? N

Loga0082

Yes, building A is the Sporting Life building. Building B where the Industria restaurant will be is the building behind it with Winners and Structube (which is the furniture shop).

I think the Element high school is going beside and above Jack Astor's. There is a site office there now.

[OTSkyline]

^All the patios will be great for summer and the atmosphere at Lansdowne! Patios are pretty limited in Ottawa. I mean the market has a few very small ones and there are a few small ones on Bank/Elgin but even those face great space restraints and opposition from NIMBY's...

Can't wait for my favorite season of them all, PATIO SEASON!

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

^All the patios will be great for summer and the atmosphere at Lansdowne! Patios are pretty limited in Ottawa. I mean the market has a few very small ones and there are a few small ones on Bank/Elgin but even those face great space restraints and opposition from NIMBY's...

Can't wait for my favorite season of them all, PATIO SEASON!

Biggest issue with the Market is the streets and the on street parking, but in Lansdowne, I believe that they built streets and sidewalks with patios in mind, which should make for an exciting patio life.

[phil235]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

Biggest issue with the Market is the streets and the on street parking, but in Lansdowne, I believe that they built streets and sidewalks with patios in mind, which should make for an exciting patio life.

Absolutely. Particularly around the square, the place is perfectly set up for patios.