Regina Construction III

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I agree with that completely, but Regina is a fraction of the population of most of these markets and our transit is terrible. I ride our transit all the time and would love to see it better, but Regina just hasn't reached a population -- and won't for many decades -- to make it work in any actually convenient manner.

Yes, although to look north at Saskatoon, they seem to be more forward thinking now with Transit, at least it appears that way. Will be interesting to see how that BRT pans out there. Regina may be able to learn from them, and other major centers.

Winnipeg
Calgary
Edmonton

to name a few others.

[jigglysquishy]

Regina has a large enough population for successful transit. Besançon in France is the size of Regina and just got a tramway.

In fact, this list is full of cities that are similar in size to Regina

It's not how many people we have, but the type of neighbourhoods they live in and their willingness for change.

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

Regina has a large enough population for successful transit. Besançon in France is the size of Regina and just got a tramway.

In fact, this list is full of cities that are similar in size to Regina

It's not how many people we have, but the type of neighbourhoods they live in and their willingness for change.

Exactly! I love my car, always have, always will. However to get to work or to get other places without it would be nice. As that saves wear and tear and is just more pleasant a lot of days.

[Drofmab]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

It's not how many people we have, but the type of neighbourhoods they live in and their willingness for change.

Willingness to change is the key in Regina.

Having lived elsewhere, and knowing people who've lived all over Canada & the world, it constantly amazes me what people in Regina deem "impossible"... most often a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Would improving transit lure people in Regina to use it? If it works well, it should.

While living in Ottawa, I'd say 10% or less of our non-work trips downtown were by car. Transit was quicker, and more convenient. And Ottawa's a pretty easy city to get around in a car - it's not as though driving would have been more work than it's worth (North-to-South, Ottawa is about the same size as Regina...).

Commuting to work was a no-brainer: transit. We routinely saw senior corporate & public sector executives taking transit too, it didn't have the negative stigma it does in Regina.

Plenty of other examples of aversion to change in Regina - our waste diversion rate is sad compared to other Canadian & US centres. No reason it needs to be - nothing particularly special about Regina's garbage that would make it uniquely difficult to recycle & compost... it's just not engrained in how we do things.

(though, I have to admit, City Hall's need to study issues to death does make me a bit resistant to things... because I know we typically end up paying a consultant to help us re-invent the wheel)

[UPP]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

Regina has a large enough population for successful transit. Besançon in France is the size of Regina and just got a tramway.

In fact, this list is full of cities that are similar in size to Regina

It's not how many people we have, but the type of neighbourhoods they live in and their willingness for change.

You just can't compare European or even Eastern Canadian cities to Regina. They mostly developed before the rise of the automobile whereas Regina was developed mostly after. That makes all the difference.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by UPP

You just can't compare European or even Eastern Canadian cities to Regina. They mostly developed before the rise of the automobile whereas Regina was developed mostly after. That makes all the difference.

Yes plus the cost of gas in Europe.

[StealthGirl]

Maltys National is going to council tonight for rezoning their proposed site at 1130 15th Ave. There's ridiculous opposition because of proximity to schools and increased traffic.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchew...o-speak-at-regina-city-council-1.3005052

[BrannyMuffin]

Originally Posted by StealthGirl

Maltys National is going to council tonight for rezoning their proposed site at 1130 15th Ave. There's ridiculous opposition because of proximity to schools and increased traffic.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchew...o-speak-at-regina-city-council-1.3005052

That article mentions a coffee bar that won't serve alcohol. Will that be in the same building? It would be nice to see someone make use of the building next door. They also have a Pinterest page which gives a pretty good idea of direction they plan to go with decor... https://www.pinterest.com/adamsmithrmy/malty-national/

[StealthGirl]

Originally Posted by BrannyMuffin

That article mentions a coffee bar that won't serve alcohol. Will that be in the same building? It would be nice to see someone make use of the building next door. They also have a Pinterest page which gives a pretty good idea of direction they plan to go with decor... https://www.pinterest.com/adamsmithrmy/malty-national/

The woman who opposed it didn't even show up to the council meeting despite being on the agendad. Council approved unanimously.

Also....

lauren golosky ‏@laurengolosky 40m40 minutes ago
Says brewery hours will be 11-9 to buy beer. Not sure of coffee hours. #YQR #yqrcc

[StealthGirl]

Also from tonight's council meeting...

lauren golosky ‏@laurengolosky 59s59 seconds ago
Council unanimously passes REAL proposal to increase debt limit to $13 million #yqrcc #yqr

[blacktrojan3921]

I think it is a possibil.ity to develop a light-rail system in Regina in the next few decades, after all as jigglysquishy pointed, many cities of similar size to Regina have a tram or a light-rail system. And before people point out that Saskatoon will likely get a light-rail system first; I think they are going the BRT route like Winnipeg.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921

I think it is a possibility to develop a light-rail system in Regina in the next few decades, after all as jigglysquishy pointed, many cities of similar size to Regina have a tram or a light-rail system. Though in fairness it will likely happen in Sasktoon first.

It will definitely happen first in Saskatoon as they are a bigger city plus growing faster. They also have a much bigger commuting problem caused by the river.

[TechnicalRecession]

Originally Posted by UPP

You just can't compare European or even Eastern Canadian cities to Regina. They mostly developed before the rise of the automobile whereas Regina was developed mostly after. That makes all the difference.

Huh??? Not sure any of this makes sense. I just keep hearing silly reasons why Regina can't have better transit. It sounds a lot like people who grumble about the cost of parking.

[Udon'tknow]

Interesting read on the future plans for YQR, credit: LP




http://www.leaderpost.com/business/Change+only+constant+local+airport/10911505/story.html

[thefourthtower]

Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy

That is all true, however, I will say this. Brandt and the other owners are smart businessmen. They have amassed a wealth level that has afforded them the ability to even consider this as an option. Regardless of what we may think if THEY believe they can make a go of it they will. As ROI is what they focus on. And if they aren't focusing on ROI they are going about it all wrong. Plus if it has meeting / convention space in the facility that will carry through as well. So $180M / 30-40 years become more profitable. It isn't ALL predicated on Concerts. They can rent the ice space to teams and have other uses for the bowl. As Unlike the stadium, this is an enclosed space, and as such would have 365-day operations.

These owners are very wealthy they have stated they want a state of the art areana maybe one that could one day be exspanded for a NHL size , we very well could be starting a cp rail areana site thread

[BrutallyDishonest]

Originally Posted by cutterp

Might as well add another rumour to the mill here. How about some seniors complexes being built on N Broad St where the Zion Church currently resides.

It's not really much of a rumor. The Luther Care Home directly beside them bought it.

[skphc08]

Originally Posted by HomerSPC

Likely made a good portion of that cost back in facilities fees for all the events it holds.

I'd kill to see a Sasktel Centre in Regina. It's disappointing seeing all the big name concerts overlook us because of the size of our arena.

I agree. Though the acoustics aren't brilliant in SaskTel Centre either.

[blacktrojan3921]

Originally Posted by Stormer

It will definitely happen first in Saskatoon as they are a bigger city plus growing faster. They also have a much bigger commuting problem caused by the river.

From what I have heard it's already happening; in the form of a BRT system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3ctEYGofY

[HomeInMyShoes]

Originally Posted by TechnicalRecession

Huh??? Not sure any of this makes sense. I just keep hearing silly reasons why Regina can't have better transit. It sounds a lot like people who grumble about the cost of parking.

It is just a function of density of form. It's not the population total, it is density that makes transit work. North America's mostly spread-out development pattern means you build a kilometer of track to serve fifty people instead of building a kilometer of track to serve five hundred. This is the same as with adding another bus to the route or adding another route. The economies of scale are just not there. It's why we don't have good rail service between cities and transit service within cities in Canada. We can have rail in Regina, but our population density will require it to be supported through tax dollars outside of the ridership itself.

We could certainly have better transit, but our choice is to either fund transit to make it better or we wait for the population density to grow significantly enough that it can support the system we talk about wanting. The appetite in this city for funding transit is pretty close to the equivalent of the appetite of my son to eat liver and kale.

[North_Regina_Boy]

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