Winnipeg Construction VIII - Page 270

steveosnyder · #**5381** Posted **Feb 13, 2015, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

People, people. It's like a block off skid row and it's Manitoba Housing. Let's just be thankful somebody is willing to build it and manage it.

This is basicially what I think... This isn't at a busy corner where everyone coming to the City is going to see, this is North Point Douglas.

https://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=49.90716,...fqpbqzPbZQS6skESYKw&cbp=12,286.69,,0,3.5

That's the 3 houses directly north of this development, tell me why that building doesn't fit in the context. In my opinion, it does, thus it's a good addition.

bomberjet · #**5382** Posted **Feb 13, 2015, 9:58 PM**

If anybody is interested, Google Maps has been updated recently. Not sure about Google Earth (as they're different or something). Shows CentrePoint and 300 Ass. under construction. IG Fields pretty cool in 3D isometric view. Also, game day?!

biguc · #**5383** Posted **Feb 13, 2015, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

150 Austin st N

from mistecture.com

good for the area, awful design.

Look at these irresponsible low-income parents. Letting their kids play in the street.

Winnipeg Architect · #**5384** Posted **Feb 13, 2015, 11:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by JasonS

We have a to scale model for Sky City Winnipeg from Fortress

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyCityWinnipeg/status/566291608400711682

I can't figure out how to embed it in this post using my phone. Sorry.

It looks a lot different from the original rendering. Maybe they might just push through with it after all. Thoughts?

Sure it will happen............if they make the entire building out of cardboard.

1ajs · #**5385** Posted **Feb 13, 2015, 11:25 PM**

wow where the hell did this come from. thats been a big empty lot for way to long interesting... had no idea mb housing was the owners and i was on the housing commity in npd for 2 yrs

its ugly and nice its a weird mix will fit in with the collection of houses though its totaly the wrong scale

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/150+Aus...a716bfc98ec8d:0xa53d0aa8b72e378b!6m1!1e1

i gues my housing plan data is starting to have some affect..........

Jimbo · #**5386** Posted **Feb 13, 2015, 11:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by biguc

Look at these irresponsible low-income parents. Letting their kids play in the street.

that was the best!

Riverman · #**5387** Posted **Feb 14, 2015, 2:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

150 Austin st N

from mistecture.com

good for the area, awful design.

The taggers will be pissed, now they will need several different colours!

rrskylar · #**5388** Posted **Feb 14, 2015, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by biguc

Look at these irresponsible low-income parents. Letting their kids play in the street.

And a Manitoba Housing project with not one window open.....c'mon...

biguc · #**5389** Posted **Feb 14, 2015, 5:55 PM**

And Home Alone silhouettes in the windows instead of blankets and tinfoil.

wags_in_the_peg · #**5390** Posted **Feb 14, 2015, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Looks like a block house I built when I was 3. That's the problem. Except add in some cultured stone!

I have no issues with it. Some of you guys want nothing but modern or funky but when that happens (like Alt Hotel) the you crap all over that too. Stop being so bloody critical. It must be nice to have unlimited budgets for all of your project. oh wait...you have no projects that you are developing. ohhhh that explains a lot now.

Ando · #**5391** Posted **Feb 14, 2015, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tacheguy

Longtime reader of this forum. I find it very informative with a high level of discourse.

I am retired after a long career in the public sector. Worked in the economic development field, including urban development issues in Winnipeg (going back to the creation of the Forks, the Portage Place monstrosity, the MTScentre and many others). Like a lot of you I love this town and I feel the future is fairly bright. I am probably slightly left of center politically although I have seen too much public funding get pissed away to feel cavalier about it.

Look forward to chiming in if I can add value or offer an alternative perspective.

"a high level of discourse" Are you sure you've been following this forum?

Simplicity · #**5392** Posted **Feb 14, 2015, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

I have no issues with it. Some of you guys want nothing but modern or funky but when that happens (like Alt Hotel) the you crap all over that too. Stop being so bloody critical. It must be nice to have unlimited budgets for all of your project. oh wait...you have no projects that you are developing. ohhhh that explains a lot now.

Today I learned that a stucco box is considered modern and funky.

1ajs · #**5393** Posted **Feb 15, 2015, 12:47 AM**

people in the community arnt happy its special needs housing put in the wrong location next to all the problems of main st

biguc · #**5394** Posted **Feb 15, 2015, 9:04 PM**

Good point. Putting vulnerable people right behind a bar that sells crack isn't the height of intelligence.

windypeg · #**5395** Posted **Feb 15, 2015, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

Today I learned that a stucco box is considered modern and funky.

And there you have the reason that most people here don't take Simplicity seriously anymore. You spend most of your time crusading against things like SkyCity and telling us why we're all idiots for even entertaining the idea that something like that is possible in our market. But then something like ALT or the U of W Commons comes along that is more modest in order to make it work, and you can't wait to dump all over that too. It's always easy to play the contrarian - that's why it's the coward's argument.

Simplicity · #**5396** Posted **Feb 16, 2015, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by windypeg

And there you have the reason that most people here don't take Simplicity seriously anymore. You spend most of your time crusading against things like SkyCity and telling us why we're all idiots for even entertaining the idea that something like that is possible in our market. But then something like ALT or the U of W Commons comes along that is more modest in order to make it work, and you can't wait to dump all over that too. It's always easy to play the contrarian - that's why it's the coward's argument.

I'm the loudest voice in favour of approving things like EIFS finishes because they're what the market can (barely) support downtown. But let's not get carried away. It's neither modern nor funky. It's finished like a tract house in Richmond West from 2002.

I couldn't care less about the design of a project. That's not my gig...

Tacheguy · #**5397** Posted **Feb 16, 2015, 1:37 AM**

Read in La Liberte today that the old firehall just north of Provencher is being converted to a youth hostel. Cost 2million or up to 8million if they add on extra rooms. With the farmers market going into the park on the south side, and the Stella's opening at the cultural centre, there seems to be a nice little cluster of community enhancements occurring a little further east on Provencher. Hopefully these will provide an eastern anchor for more retail and infill closer to Tache. Lots of for lease signs right now.

1ajs · #**5398** Posted **Feb 16, 2015, 1:45 AM**

st b is finding its self still it will eventualy it's just gotta up the density

biguc · #**5399** Posted **Feb 16, 2015, 5:53 AM**

I remember Archiseek refering to St. B as the French City, rather than the French quarter. It was a valid delineation, as we've discussed recently, even if the parochial characteristics of St. B are consistent with every Winnipeg suburb. People in Charleshood or Trashcona live and die by their shitty boroughs, and it's all they can do to move to St. James or East K, and they think going to a decent restaurant like the Peasant Cookery is transgressive when you could go to a dump like Sorrentos or the Royal Fork.

The upshot, though, is that St. B has a small-city development pattern. I actually like how its lack of zoning is reaping development benefits, in spite of Winnipeg's bureaucratic underpinnings--all those junk yards in the middle of residential areas can't do anything but upzone.

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

I'm the loudest voice in favour of approving things like EIFS finishes because they're what the market can (barely) support downtown. But let's not get carried away. It's neither modern nor funky. It's finished like a tract house in Richmond West from 2002.

I couldn't care less about the design of a project. That's not my gig...

I've railed on idiots from Toronto in the Canada section for their delusional opinions on what "taste" can accomplish with shitty materials in shitty climates with shitty soil conditions. But Torontonians are delusional idiots, without exception, and EIFs can look ok. There are some solid examples throughout northern Europe. Some people like to think Winnipeg is comparable only to Siberia and that anything that isn't built by gulag workers is impossible, but I think we both know that isn't the case. There are shining examples of what Winnipeg can accomplish in places like Copenhagen, Stockholm, and Sapporo. What Winnipeg can't reasonably accomplish is what happens in Houston, Carmel, or even Vancouver.

rypinion · #**5400** Posted **Feb 16, 2015, 4:45 PM**

Old St. B (specifically bordered by Provencher/Marion/Tache/Des Meurons) is likely one of the higher density areas of the city. Every other home has been turned into a duplex or triplex to house students of CUSB. There's small apartments all over the place as well. It's exactly what many on this board suggest other areas of the city should become in terms of density.