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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:11 PM
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Is petty garbage like this really necessary?

And its Yahoo anyway.
I was merely impersonating Chad. This is by no mean aimed towards other Calgarian users.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:12 PM
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The downtown quickly yields to little SFHs, that's probably what gives that impression.

I had that argument not too long ago with someone on here and I decided to test it for myself by choosing a random spot on a Sunnyside street (right outside the CBD) for a Street View, and to my amazement I ended up on a dirt street/alley (with little houses as expected and little suburban-style lots).

If the guy you're replying to is from Montreal, and he actually is, I am not surprised that he observed how quickly the buildings give way to detached little suburban-style houses. In Montreal (and East Coast cities in general) those are found on the edges of the metro area, not in the core.

If you want to see the glass half-full, you can simply consider that what he said was "wow, that's an overgrown CBD for its footprint!". It's the same thing.
He did not say that. He made a comment about the green river, then a jab by saying our DT looked small. There appears to be a recurring theme of misunderstanding here which I'd like to clear up. When talking about the DT I typically am referring to the CBD and Beltline which are the city's core and have a clear skyline. For some reason whenever getting into this discussion with someone from Montreal they seem to define DT as extending to row housing and buildings under 12 stories high. This always leads to an argument that Montreal is way denser blah blah blah blah blah. Well that's obvious. However when said Montrealer says Calgary has a small DT while comparing it to Montreal's, I simply look at the disparity in tall buildings and laugh.

So let's be clear: Montreal beats Calgary in overall density, street life and old world character. Calgary on the other hand beats Montreal in CBD height and overall skyline. That's pretty clear I think.

Also, it has been noted numerous times by outsiders that it is quite a stark contrast between DT Calgary and anything on the north side including Sunnyside. It's true there are SFH's across the river from major high rises (gasp). However this is starting to change as condos are being built along 10th street in Kensington and all throughout Bridgeland. The south side of the core is entirely different as it is not blocked by a bluff and a river and allows for more gradual transition from corporate highrise, to apartment buildings and condos, down to SFH's. Anyone who simply looks at the north side and says there's absolutely nothing outside the corporate towers is either willfully ignorant or has never seen the Beltline, Mission, Mount Royal, Connaught and all the other high density neighbourhoods to the south which are not cut off by the river.

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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:13 PM
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well, the guy is entitled to his opinion. I love the skylines of Seattle and Minneapolis - I like the balance and quality of the buildings moreso than, say, Dallas and Houston, even though the latter two cities have more highrises. It's not entirely a numbers game.

What point is there for people (this guy isn't even from Calgary) to have opinions in a discussion thread if we are not allowed to dissent from the popular narrative without being ridiculed and accused of being on drugs? Some of you guys need to work on engaging in a more mature discourse...
Okay, that's it, from now on I'm only referencing this skyline ranking in all future posts:

1) Toronto
2) Montreal (just to piss them off!)
3) Vancouver
4) Edmonton (to piss them off even more!)
5) Winnipeg
6) Ottawa
7) Niagara Falls, etc.
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11) Fort McMurray
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29) Calgary

If that kind of trolling is acceptable as opinion, then so is the above...
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:17 PM
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where are you from/living?

What about Vancouver?? explain to me why Montreal is a solid fourth? Vancouver doesn't have height..Vancouver is a high rise city?
I am from southern ontario. I live in Calgary now. Vancouver may not have height to the extent of TO or even Calgary, but it has literally hundreds of highrises in a manmade forest surrounded by a breathtaking natural scenery that I think looks amazing. Calgary has more and taller skyscrapers than Montreal (by which I do not mean buildings over 12 floors, but buildings over 300' or buildings over 500', take your pick) as well as the gorgeous Bow building. That is why I consider vancouver and Calgary to have better skylines than Montreal (but not as good as toronto).

Although, in light of the above my opinion is just as valid as a Calgary resident as your getting defensive is as a Montrealer, right?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:25 PM
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:26 PM
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More aerials please?..Aerial views puts cities like Montreal ,Boston and Calgary for that matter in a more accurate perspective of their respective skylines or that grey area of "city scape". My fave is still Vancouver, but I refuse to rank them now ha.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:30 PM
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So let's be clear: Calgary on the other hand beats Montreal in CBD height and overall skyline. That's pretty clear I think.
No that's not pretty clear at all actually. CBD height, yes it is clear. but "overall skyline" is much more than CBD height. Ther have countless rankings on Canadian skylines and Toronto ranks #1 in the majority. However, the #2 spot as seen Montreal, Vancouver, and Calgary all have their share in that spot. So no I don't think it's "pretty clear" at all.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:31 PM
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I am from southern ontario. I live in Calgary now. Vancouver may not have height to the extent of TO or even Calgary, but it has literally hundreds of highrises in a manmade forest surrounded by a breathtaking natural scenery that I think looks amazing. Calgary has more and taller skyscrapers than Montreal (by which I do not mean buildings over 12 floors, but buildings over 300' or buildings over 500', take your pick) as well as the gorgeous Bow building. That is why I consider vancouver and Calgary to have better skylines than Montreal (but not as good as toronto).

Although, in light of the above my opinion is just as valid as a Calgary resident as your getting defensive is as a Montrealer, right?
The Bow? lol OK I love the glass part but honestly?? its Ugly... and HEY thats my opinion... I call it the Tank! except its half a tank? LOL.... I think Montreal and Vancouver is very very close with 100m+ towers... but then again Montreal has 6+ more towers under construction over 100m right now.... is it height that really shows off a skyline? hummm I say NO.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 8:55 PM
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So you guys do realize that Calgarians didn't start this right? It was a bunch of Montrealers butthurt about a Vancouver forumer saying he thinks Calgary's skyline is one of the best. No one said anything against Montreal, you all created that narrative. Grow the fuck up and let's look at some beautiful skylines.







http://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galle...4b-798ff556fc3a-downtown-toronto-ontario



http://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galle...1e1-8a6e-474de329d11c-downtown-vancouver



http://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galle...99b7cd2ab-calgary-city-skyline-at-sunset



http://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galle...e-4b83-9088-9669c3d61ed5-montreal-quebec



http://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galle...11e3-97ae-f2b86e40979d-downtown-edmonton



http://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galle...70-4af1-9518-8a2b212df5ac-ottawa-ontario
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:02 PM
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^ he's not from Vancouver, he's from Toronto you inferior-complexed little man... But yeah, let's get back to skylines.

Admit it, you'd be even more butthurt than us if Calgary was being ignored in the top 3 (which it is).

And stop posting the same pics over and over, we've seen them already bro.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:10 PM
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Those aerials are all money, but that Van shot is a jaw-dropper!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:18 PM
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I had to take screen shots... Haven't seen these! there are soooooo many photos

www.fotoimage.ca





and this shot... just shows you... I dont even have to say anything else.



















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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:19 PM
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:24 PM
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You sure showed us G.S MTL...
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:34 PM
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He did not say that. He made a comment about the green river, then a jab by saying our DT looked small. There appears to be a recurring theme of misunderstanding here which I'd like to clear up. When talking about the DT I typically am referring to the CBD and Beltline which are the city's core and have a clear skyline. For some reason whenever getting into this discussion with someone from Montreal they seem to define DT as extending to row housing and buildings under 12 stories high. This always leads to an argument that Montreal is way denser blah blah blah blah blah. Well that's obvious. However when said Montrealer says Calgary has a small DT while comparing it to Montreal's, I simply look at the disparity in tall buildings and laugh.
He said the downtown looked small, which in that shot is the case. He didn't say "the downtown buildings aren't tall", he said the downtown looked small.

To put that in perspective, when I first set foot in LA I was STRUCK by how SMALL in AREA the downtown was. The area with tall buildings is a few blocks by a few blocks!!!

That was back in the mid 2000s, I am sure the downtown has expanded since then but it STILL is pretty small (in area). I mean just compare this (pic below) to NYC or Chicago...

In fact it really reminds me of Calgary's downtown. Group of tall office buildings surrounded by what at first sight appears to almost be a sea of suburbia.






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So let's be clear: Montreal beats Calgary in overall density, street life and old world character. Calgary on the other hand beats Montreal in CBD height and overall skyline. That's pretty clear I think.
Agree with most of what you just said, but I disagree with "Calgary beats Mtl for overall skyline". Calgary's is taller but Montreal's is bigger.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:35 PM
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Let me come out and say that the aspects I like most about Montreal have nothing to do with its' skyline. I love it's grit. I love it's history and amazing old architecture we don't have in the west. It's the first place that ever stirred an interest in architecture in me. I love it's garish signed strip clubs (super sexe) and its beat up cobble stone streets in the old port. I also love certain buildings like Le batman and Le 1250 Rene Levesque. Notre Dame cathedral is amazing. I love the Jacques Cartier bridge and the old grain silos and warehouses.

I am not however enamoured by their skyline. It's not a dig. It's just a fact that whenever I come on SSP it's not one I'm enthusiastic about. I've visited Montreal since I was an infant seeing my mother's side of the family. I've lived in Calgary my entire life. I've had relatives in the past decade still tell me how PVM is the tallest office building in the country and how Calgary has nothing but tumbleweed after 5:00 in the DT. I get Montreal's attitude towards my city. I've dealt with it my whole life.

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You sure showed us G.S MTL...
OH! I can post some more if you want? its like eye candy isn't it ?
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:45 PM
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He said the downtown looked small, which in that shot is the case. He didn't say "the downtown buildings aren't tall", he said the downtown looked small.

To put that in perspective, when I first set foot in LA I was STRUCK by how SMALL in AREA the downtown was. The area with tall buildings is a few blocks by a few blocks!!!

That was back in the mid 2000s, I am sure the downtown has expanded since then but it STILL is pretty small (in area). I mean just compare this (pic below) to NYC or Chicago...

In fact it really reminds me of Calgary's downtown. Group of tall office buildings surrounded by what at first sight appears to almost be a sea of suburbia.








Agree with most of what you just said, but I disagree with "Calgary beats Mtl for overall skyline". Calgary's is taller but Montreal's is bigger.
To compare Calgary's skyline to LA's is downright laughable and shows you have visited neither in a very long time. I was in LA's DT 2 years ago and was shocked to find it emptier and smaller than ours (taller but smaller). Calgary's DT is not a few blocks wide on either side. To say so proves to me you have not ever actually walked or taken the train through the CBD.

The centre of our city is a veritable hive of activity throughout the week with a hustle and bustle no city in North America of just over a million people can even compare to. In fact we destroy city's multiple times our size for that. Just look at the stats for highest lrt ridership on the continent and you'll get the picture.

When I was checking out the MOCA in LA by comparison it was almost empty. DT Edmonton feels more populous. Our Downtowns are nothing alike. Your comparison of a large cluster of tall buildings in the centre of a spread out suburbia is
applicable to virtually any city in North America besides the oldest ones in the east. Even Toronto fits that description.

Edit: also let it be known we have no highway running into our DT like is pictured in this photo. This is one of the biggest reasons for theirs feeling so dead.

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Old Posted Feb 7, 2015, 9:46 PM
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I've had relatives in the past decade still tell me how PVM is the tallest office building in the country and how Calgary has nothing but tumbleweed after 5:00 in the DT. I get Montreal's attitude towards my city. I've dealt with it my whole life.
I seriously have no bias against Calgary. It's the attitude of certain forumers (not you) that pisses me off. It actually makes me dislike Calgary, which is a sad thing really...
     
     
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