The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Given that Brampton is throwing hissy fits about the alignment, an option that has been discussed by many is truncating the line to Mississauga only as a first step.

Another Option is to build a Brampton only line or have the municipal cost covered by a blanket tax at the Peel Region Level so Mississauga City Politics don't interfere in the decision to construct the line.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

Another Option is to build a Brampton only line or have the municipal cost covered by a blanket tax at the Peel Region Level so Mississauga City Politics don't interfere in the decision to construct the line.

Given the transmunicipal nature of the project I'm honestly shocked that it's not Peel Region handling it.

What's with Peel Region anyhow? They never seem to be around... whereas York & Durham regions do lots of integrated work (a single transit agency for each region, for example), it seems like over there Mississauga & Brampton do everything... I guess Peel is a more devolved RM?

[caltrane74]

Peel Region Police?

[niwell]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Given the transmunicipal nature of the project I'm honestly shocked that it's not Peel Region handling it.

What's with Peel Region anyhow? They never seem to be around... whereas York & Durham regions do lots of integrated work (a single transit agency for each region, for example), it seems like over there Mississauga & Brampton do everything... I guess Peel is a more devolved RM?

It's largely to do with the size of influence of Mississauga within the region, and to a lesser extent Brampton. Mississauga has even pressured the Region to devolve most planning services to local municipalities. It is somewhat unique in setup where you have two heavily urbanized municipalities and one overwhelmingly rural. Other Regions in southern Ontario are a bit more balanced.

[wg_flamip]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Huh. Big contrast to Ottawa then. Here in Ottawa everyone knows about the Confederation Line and almost everyone is giddy about it. When politicians propose to cancel or downscale it, we lash out in fury against them. The Ontario PC Party and mayoral candidate Mike Maguire both learned this the hard way.

Last civic poll I saw said that 76% of Ottawans felt the Confederation Line was a very important civic project.

If Mississauga was a standalone city in its own media market, I'd imagine the LRT would get a lot more attention.

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Given the transmunicipal nature of the project I'm honestly shocked that it's not Peel Region handling it.

What's with Peel Region anyhow? They never seem to be around... whereas York & Durham regions do lots of integrated work (a single transit agency for each region, for example), it seems like over there Mississauga & Brampton do everything... I guess Peel is a more devolved RM?

It's my understanding that Caledon has been really opposed to starting a local transit system in the past, so that might be one reason why we haven't seen an amalgamated Peel transit agency. There is fare integration between Mississauga and Brampton (and the surrounding suburban municipalities), so from a customer perspective there's no pressing need to merge the systems.

[lrt's friend]

There is also fare integration between Ottawa and Gatineau but the transit systems are poorly integrated and they don't serve interprovincial riders well except within the downtown area. The public doesn't complain too much because the problem has been around forever and there is no political will to fix it.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

There is also fare integration between Ottawa and Gatineau but the transit systems are poorly integrated and they don't serve interprovincial riders well except within the downtown area. The public doesn't complain too much because the problem has been around forever and there is no political will to fix it.

I really wish the Tunney's Pasture to Rivermead line had a usable schedule.

[Metro-One]

Another Evergreen Line update.

The gantry crane has made it to Lincoln station in Coquitlam.

Originally Posted by officedweller

Webcam pics today:


http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit


http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit


http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit


http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit

By Yellow Fever posted Jan 13th:

Also, regarding the Calgary options, the 15 meter high elevated rail will never happen. There was a huge push against the 2 km elevated section built only a few years ago largely along a semi-industrial corridor, imagine the revolt against having an elevated line running through the heart of downtown???

It will be subway or surface.

[Metro-One]

Here are a few more pics originally by Yellowfever on SSC: (sucks you cant quote pics in a quote).

[SkahHigh]

At Mascouche Station


AMT Train #1210 (2) by AMTFan1, on Flickr

[caltrane74]

I love that flush and level boarding platform for the AMT trains....

[Nouvellecosse]

Yes i wish more suburban trains here could have level boarding like that.

[TownGuy]

Anyone know why GO hasn't gone with level boarding?

[Nouvellecosse]

Compatibility (clearance issues) with freight trains and the cost of retrofitting dozens of stations, some of which are fairly low traffic.

[GlassCity]

West Coast Express doesn't have level boarding either, even downtown.

[MalcolmTucker]

I think on the VIA system only Montreal does.

[SkahHigh]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

I think on the VIA system only Montreal does.

That's because there are high platforms at Central Station. AMT trains have 2 sets of doors for high and low platforms.

[Rotax]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

I think on the VIA system only Montreal does.

Before the opening of Mascouche line (AMT), I believe Gare Centrale and Gare du Palais (Québec city) were the only train stations in Canada with high platforms.

[MonkeyRonin]

I understand that fare increases are a necessity, but I hate that the cost of a Metropass (unlimited monthly pass) keeps rising at a faster rate than single fares. It seems like only a few years ago that the cost of a Metropass was equivalent to something like 45 tokens, now it's going up to 51. Meanwhile the cash fare has been frozen for the past few years are now barely any higher than the cost of a token. It's really the TTC's most frequent users who are being hit the hardest.

Why TTC Metropasses and tokens are so expensive

Torontonians must ride 51 times to make a monthly pass worth the cost. That's more than New Yorkers, Berliners or Parisians.

By: Marco Chown Oved Staff Reporter
Published on Wed Jan 21 2015

With the new fare hikes announced earlier this week, Torontonians will have to ride the TTC more than 50 times per month to make the Metropass worth its price.

That’s one of the least generous discounts for a monthly unlimited-rides pass at any of the major urban transit systems in the world, according to numbers compiled by the Star.

New Yorkers have to take the bus 41 times per month to get their money back, while Berliners only need to ride 30 times. Londoners, however, need to ride the tube 53 times to account for the cost of a pass.

The TTC says this is mostly because it receives the smallest public subsidy in North America. The TTC’s data show that despite having the continent’s second biggest ridership, it is more reliant on the fare box than any other.

Read more: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/transpor...passes-and-tokens-are-so-expensive.html#

[J.OT13]

O-Train Confederation Line update:

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Construction Update
Week of January 19



Booth Street Closure

Booth Street, north of Albert Street has been closed to allow for the construction and installation of the LeBreton Flats Diversion Chamber scheduled this winter. The temporary Preston Street Extension was built to provide a detour during Booth’s closure.


Lyon Station cavern works continue

Lyon Station Cavern

Lyon Station cavern reinforcement is ongoing and includes construction of L-walls.


Parliament Station cavern waterproofing

Parliament Station Cavern

Parliament Station cavern reinforcement is ongoing.

Other activities include backfilling, waterproofing, and concrete pouring.


Shotcrete works in the Rideau Station cavern

Rideau Station Cavern

Tunnel reinforcement continues with shotcrete and rockbolt installation.

Works to relocate Jawbreaker to the East Portal are ongoing.

Excavation of the bench is planned to begin later this month.


Basement of the Scotiabank building

Rideau Station

Exterior demolition of the existing Scotiabank building continues at the future location of the Rideau Station entrance (east).


Final works at the Rideau pedestrian footbridge

Rideau Pedestrian Footbridge

Final works to reinforce the Rideau pedestrian footbridge have been completed.


Construction of interior components of the Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building

Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building

Masonry work, cladding and panel installation continue for the building envelope. Construction of the internal components progresses and includes pouring of concrete slabs. Roofing continues on the shed.


Works on the Belfast Yard connector

Belfast Yard Connector

Works on the Belfast Yard connector, which allows vehicles to travel to and from the Light Rail Transit (LRT) track to Belfast Yard, are ongoing, and include rebar installation and pouring of the concrete bases and walls. Rockbolt installation for bridge’s piles continues.


Drilling for the installation of concrete caissons north of the existing Hurdman Station

Hurdman Station

Elevated guideway work continues with caisson drilling over the next week north of the existing Hurdman Station.


Highway 417 median near Vanier Parkway

Highway 417 Roadworks

Installing electrical and light poles, and sewer works continue from Cyrville Road to Nicholas Street.


Lees Avenue underpass

Lees Avenue Underpass

General site cleanup continues.


Girder installation at Hurdman Bridge continues

Hurdman Bridge

Mobilisation and girder installation, part of the reconstruction of the bridge’s median span, is ongoing as preparations begin for the installation of the underdecking.


Concrete crushing at Vanier Parkway staging area

Vanier Parkway Overpass

Crushing of the old bridge’s structure continues at the staging area.


Final works continue at the Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Works continue in anticipation of substantial bridge completion at the end of the month and include the ceiling’s plumbing conduits, roof vent installation, and concrete pouring and panel installation of stairs.

Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks, the following construction activities will advance:

• Preparatory works for the Booth Street Bridge will begin.
• The roof of the Belfast Yard shed is scheduled for completion mid-winter.
• Installation of railings will begin on the Belfast Road Underpass deck as long-term closure of Belfast Road, north of Tremblay Road to Coventry Road continues.
• Lyon Station west entrance excavation is anticipated to begin late winter.
• Parliament Station utility relocation works on Queen Street are scheduled this winter.
• Parliament Station west entrance is scheduled to begin late winter.

http://www.confederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-6/