Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[1overcosc]

You hear the Toronto subway when walking down Yonge but that's because of how insanely shallow it is. The subway tunnel is literally directly underneath the utility level.

[MoreTrains]

For easy of construction, the city should just build under city roads. That way, even if someone complains, they cant do anything about it because the city owns it.

[eemy]

I thought I read that the tunnel would only be 3-4 metres underground at that location. Wouldn't that be pretty similar to the Yonge line downtown?

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

For easy of construction, the city should just build under city roads. That way, even if someone complains, they cant do anything about it because the city owns it.

The city owns the underground beneath properties, too.. (or rather, I think the province does). Private property rights only extend to the lowest utility level of a property, I think.

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by ACmodels

That's what I was thinking. These options should now be considered.









The only thing I'm worried about is other people/business would complain with these options.

The O-Train routing shouldn't be considered as that is an operational disaster. Any route that doesn't use the current Transitway at least as far as Westboro should be screened out immediately - Tunney's Pasture must be on the main line, for example, as it is the region's 3rd largest employment area.

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

The city owns the underground beneath properties, too.. (or rather, I think the province does). Private property rights only extend to the lowest utility level of a property, I think.

Yeah, that is what I thought, but, development sometimes goes down, so if we were to build under the streets there would be no impediments.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Buggys

Nope. I think we're on the same page regarding this. Even minor stations will attract car traffic.

I don't view this as a problem.

[GoTrans]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

For easy of construction, the city should just build under city roads. That way, even if someone complains, they cant do anything about it because the city owns it.

I agree with you on this. While there would be disruption on Richmond Road and/or Byron Ave it would at least be on city owned property. The additional distance of tunnelling required on the Richmond route is only marginally longer than the proposed route if the LRT crosses the park between Dominion and Richmond Rd at grade or in a trench.

[1overcosc]

I'm against accomodating this church and these businesses simply on grounds of principle. We can't go changing plans to suit the complaints of each and every whining NIMBY. We need to gain a backbone and tell these nuts to shut up and f**k off and let the city build infrastructure for the benefit of the entire city.

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

I'm against accomodating this church and these businesses simply on grounds of principle. We can't go changing plans to suit the complaints of each and every whining NIMBY. We need to gain a backbone and tell these nuts to shut up and f**k off and let the city build infrastructure for the benefit of the entire city.

Yes, that is a very good point. But if the City also wants to say that the LRT will bring intensification then there needs to be room to build not only up but down, and that is my major issue with the proposal as is.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

I'm against accomodating this church and these businesses simply on grounds of principle. We can't go changing plans to suit the complaints of each and every whining NIMBY. We need to gain a backbone and tell these nuts to shut up and f**k off and let the city build infrastructure for the benefit of the entire city.

If I were Mayor, I'd have a standard-issue form letter to this exact effect. Which, among many other reasons, is why I'll never be Mayor.

[Buggys]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

I'm against accomodating this church and these businesses simply on grounds of principle. We can't go changing plans to suit the complaints of each and every whining NIMBY. We need to gain a backbone and tell these nuts to shut up and f**k off and let the city build infrastructure for the benefit of the entire city.

If we're building the LRT for the good of the majority, then just put it under or on Byron and be done with it! The City owns this property, no expropriation issues, and it's close to people & businesses on Richmond Rd.

[rocketphish]

Construction Update
Week of January 19



Booth Street Closure

Booth Street, north of Albert Street has been closed to allow for the construction and installation of the LeBreton Flats Diversion Chamber scheduled this winter. The temporary Preston Street Extension was built to provide a detour during Booth’s closure.


Lyon Station cavern works continue

Lyon Station Cavern

Lyon Station cavern reinforcement is ongoing and includes construction of L-walls.


Parliament Station cavern waterproofing

Parliament Station Cavern

Parliament Station cavern reinforcement is ongoing.

Other activities include backfilling, waterproofing, and concrete pouring.


Shotcrete works in the Rideau Station cavern

Rideau Station Cavern

Tunnel reinforcement continues with shotcrete and rockbolt installation.

Works to relocate Jawbreaker to the East Portal are ongoing.

Excavation of the bench is planned to begin later this month.


Basement of the Scotiabank building

Rideau Station

Exterior demolition of the existing Scotiabank building continues at the future location of the Rideau Station entrance (east).


Final works at the Rideau pedestrian footbridge

Rideau Pedestrian Footbridge

Final works to reinforce the Rideau pedestrian footbridge have been completed.


Construction of interior components of the Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building

Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building

Masonry work, cladding and panel installation continue for the building envelope. Construction of the internal components progresses and includes pouring of concrete slabs. Roofing continues on the shed.


Works on the Belfast Yard connector

Belfast Yard Connector

Works on the Belfast Yard connector, which allows vehicles to travel to and from the Light Rail Transit (LRT) track to Belfast Yard, are ongoing, and include rebar installation and pouring of the concrete bases and walls. Rockbolt installation for bridge’s piles continues.


Drilling for the installation of concrete caissons north of the existing Hurdman Station

Hurdman Station

Elevated guideway work continues with caisson drilling over the next week north of the existing Hurdman Station.


Highway 417 median near Vanier Parkway

Highway 417 Roadworks

Installing electrical and light poles, and sewer works continue from Cyrville Road to Nicholas Street.


Lees Avenue underpass

Lees Avenue Underpass

General site cleanup continues.


Girder installation at Hurdman Bridge continues

Hurdman Bridge

Mobilisation and girder installation, part of the reconstruction of the bridge’s median span, is ongoing as preparations begin for the installation of the underdecking.


Concrete crushing at Vanier Parkway staging area

Vanier Parkway Overpass

Crushing of the old bridge’s structure continues at the staging area.


Final works continue at the Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Works continue in anticipation of substantial bridge completion at the end of the month and include the ceiling’s plumbing conduits, roof vent installation, and concrete pouring and panel installation of stairs.

Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks, the following construction activities will advance:

• Preparatory works for the Booth Street Bridge will begin.
• The roof of the Belfast Yard shed is scheduled for completion mid-winter.
• Installation of railings will begin on the Belfast Road Underpass deck as long-term closure of Belfast Road, north of Tremblay Road to Coventry Road continues.
• Lyon Station west entrance excavation is anticipated to begin late winter.
• Parliament Station utility relocation works on Queen Street are scheduled this winter.
• Parliament Station west entrance is scheduled to begin late winter.

http://www.confederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-6/

[MoreTrains]

Looking good! Damn I wish things could be done a year sooner. But, so do alot of people Im sure.

[Uhuniau]

What kind of sorcery is required for those photos and links of Confederation Line construction to actually work?

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

What kind of sorcery is required for those photos and links of Confederation Line construction to actually work?

I believe they call it a computer with internet access...

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

Looking good! Damn I wish things could be done a year sooner. But, so do alot of people Im sure.

It was originally supposed to be completed in 2019, back when the City was planning on running the construction. But when Watson changed it to a P3 in 2011, the projected completion date was moved up to 2018.

[FFX-ME]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

I believe they call it a computer with internet access...

A what!?

[1overcosc]

The Confederation Line 2015 "look ahead" is out, and it contains some interesting info about the detours. They're being moved up by a few months. Blair->Hurdman detour begins in June (it was originally supposed to begin in October), while first part of the Scott Street detour begins in December (originally supposed to begin in February or March of 2016 IIRC).

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

The Confederation Line 2015 "look ahead" is out, and it contains some interesting info about the detours. They're being moved up by a few months. Blair->Hurdman detour begins in June (it was originally supposed to begin in October), while first part of the Scott Street detour begins in December (originally supposed to begin in February or March of 2016 IIRC).

I wonder if they are attempting to get this opened for 2017. Obviously, a lot of things will have to go right and it is way too premature to make any sort of announcement but it would be a big feather in Jim Watson's hat if this were to happen.