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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 6:26 PM
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Ya, keep all those people with money (tickets are not going to be cheap regardless of which teams come) out of downtown! We don't need all the associated development either!more hotels cause of the stadium? Fuck it! More convention space and upgrades to the convention center? Hell no! 70,000 people spending discretionary income at our restaurants, shops and bars on otherwise dead Sundays? No! Superbowls? Hell no
That's the potential economic upside (although I'd love to see that quantified), but having spent a large portion of my life living in two huge sports towns (Philadelphia and Boston), there's a social cost to having a lot of sports teams in your city.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 6:42 PM
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If this was going to be built in spring and 5th,I'd be against it, but the location is ideal
     
     
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It's such a bummer the Chinese didn't buy Park Fifth and stick with the original plan similar to Metropolis or Fig Central.
I agree. We really missed out on Park Fifth.


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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 7:24 PM
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Ya, keep all those people with money (tickets are not going to be cheap regardless of which teams come) out of downtown! We don't need all the associated development either!more hotels cause of the stadium? Fuck it! More convention space and upgrades to the convention center? Hell no! 70,000 people spending discretionary income at our restaurants, shops and bars on otherwise dead Sundays? No! Superbowls? Hell no
I sure don't want to see a potential venue for the 2024 Olympic that Los Angeles is bidding on. Outrageous.
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 8:22 PM
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Yeah, we don't need anymore Caltrans people downtown overflowing from LA Live... (Caltrans are people who live in the burbs and come downtown on the weekends)
What's wrong with "Caltrans people"?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 8:31 PM
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^^^ Agreed, DT should be appreciated and enjoyed by all (as long as it is in a lawful manner)
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 9:20 PM
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Yeah, we don't need anymore Caltrans people downtown overflowing from LA Live... (Caltrans are people who live in the burbs and come downtown on the weekends)
Ha. Me and my friends have the same complaints too. We don't mind the people because it obviously means DTLA is headed the right direction but we just don't like the crowds. This results in us drinking out on the weekdays instead. Our nickname for them is "the freeway folks".

And I'm favor of a football team in DTLA only if it's part of the Convention Center. Crowds aren't an issue for a football team because there's only 8 home games in a regular NFL season. My issue would be with the dead space on the other 357 days. Having the stadium be an extension of the Convention Center removes that issue and simultaneously improves the quality of the Convention Center by giving them a venue to host large events. But I'm not sure if the city or the NFL still wants to work with AEG.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2014, 11:40 PM
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New Gap Factory Store Now Open on Broadway in Downtown LA



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What's wrong with "Caltrans people"?
I know it's wrong but I heard it from someone else and thought it was funny.
     
     
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I know it's wrong but I heard it from someone else and thought it was funny.
Someone on the Facebook group coined the term "five & dimers" (i.e. they came into downtown via the 5 or the 10 freeways). I like it.
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 1:37 AM
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Someone on the Facebook group coined the term "five & dimers" (i.e. they came into downtown via the 5 or the 10 freeways). I like it.
Well, some of them may be Metroans too...
     
     
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Skyline tonight. 9th & Olive sits dark in the distance for only a couple months more.


Architectural lighting on Hall of Justice! This is what cities that respect architecture do.
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 3:11 AM
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Fig Central and Metropolis and Wilshire Grand, among others, all going up at the same time? 2015-2016 will be so fun! From SSC

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Some pics of the Fig Central site I took today (14 Dec 2014). The heavy equipment are getting ready for some serious digging!



















     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 3:23 AM
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Demolition started at the Fig Central site today. Half of the building was already gone as of this afternoon.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 3:27 AM
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Yeah, we don't need anymore Caltrans people downtown overflowing from LA Live... (Caltrans are people who live in the burbs and come downtown on the weekends)
Dude, stop trying to make fetch happen. That makes no sense and frankly sounds stupid.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 4:06 AM
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Everything added together is making dtla in 2014, 2015 & hopefully beyond, a fun time. It's the huge things....like the wilshire grand....the big things....like Fig Central & metropolis....the cultural things....like the broad museum....the housing things...like all the apt bldgs.....the rehab things....like the Redbird restaurant in old st vibiana's....that are making dt seem so much more interesting & 'with it' than the hoods that formerly were really the only game in town. Or the time when it was mainly just Samo, or the wilshire corridor from UCLA to bev hills, or hollywood/weho, or venice, or pasadena, or all the newer burbs that ppl in the past would run off to at lightening speed after having spent their workday in dt.


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Neal Fraser opens Redbird in downtown's Vibiana, finally


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By Amy Scattergood

Fans of Neal Fraser's excellent cooking have long been waiting, literally or figuratively, outside the deconsecrated gates of downtown's Vibiana Cathedral for news of his restaurant, long-scheduled to open in the building's former rectory. Well, the gates are finally opening, as Redbird is slated to open Wednesday evening for dinner service.

Fraser, as you may remember, closed Grace in 2010, hoping to relocate the much-loved restaurant downtown. In the meantime, the space that was Grace became Playa, which then became Petty Cash. Much time passed, Neal and Amy Knoll Fraser moved their catering kitchen downtown and took over the Vibiana events space; the Frasers teamed with Bill Chait; and the restaurant evolved to become Redbird.

It should be said that Redbird — a reference to the cardinal who once lived in Vibiana's rectory — is decidedly not Grace. But it will have some Grace-like dishes on the menu, as well as the kind of cooking that has made Fraser one of the town's foremost chefs. ("We didn't want it to be too religious," Knoll Fraser says. "No crosses.")

As you'd expect, both the restaurant, which the Frasers have been effectively working on since 2008, and the menu show signs of much thought and preparation. The dinner menu (Redbird will open for lunch and brunch early in 2015) is divided into four sections: appetizers, mains, desserts and a kind of small plates course that Knoll Fraser named "kickshaws."

Fraser's Redbird crew includes a lot of old friends, including Jason Bowlin, the sous chef at Grace for its final two years, sous chef Austin Cobb, pastry chef Jazmine Corpuz (Ink, Patina, Bottega Louie) and general manager Christian Philippo (Republique, Patina).... The designer is Robert Weimer, who helped design Grace, Fritzi Dog and BLD and had the enviable job of working with one of the prettiest buildings in Los Angeles.

"The architecture was already outstanding; all I could do was mess it up," Weimer points out. (He did not.) The other thing that Redbird has that most restaurants do not? Four kitchens, one of which is in Vibiana's former sacristy.

Redbird is divided into two parts: a lounge inside with a gorgeous marble bar and a collection of vintage and repurposed furniture, some of which came from Grace and Playa (the bar seats 24; the marble came from a marble yard in the San Fernando Valley); and a courtyard dining room with a retractable roof that has a full bar, citrus trees and space for a wood-burning oven (Fraser is moving it there as we speak) where the chef can grill your dinner.

"It's a landmark," Knoll Fraser says of the location. "It deserves something really special." How special the space — and the new restaurant inside it — is can be summed up by noting that there's an actual finger lime tree growing from a large box next to a corner table in the courtyard, and that you can see Vibiana's gorgeous bell tower through that retractable roof. Not a bad place for a glass of wine and a plate of Rabbitchetta.

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^ But dtla still needs as many ppl as possible 24/7, 365 days a yr, since the much praised rivera restaurant on the ground floor of the metlofts apt bldg is closing at the end of the month due to apparently not enough business, & roy's, which closed earlier in the yr, even though it originally said its dt location was one of its best performing branches, but must have seen its sales drop when too much competition was created in its part of dt.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 4:10 AM
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Excellent news regarding fig central! And the new restaurant looks spectacular. Really looks amazing. Can't wait to go
     
     
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From your article on tech........this is key:

Hunting a Juggernaut

No one pretends that Downtown is a direct competitor to Silicon Beach. Instead, say experts, its rivals for attracting businesses are smaller communities such as Culver City.

One issue, Steuber said, is that much of the top engineering and programming talent is concentrated in West L.A., and executives from national companies continue to be attracted to living on the coastline. Moving Downtown into the tech big-time, he said, may require persuading a juggernaut company to set up in Downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2014, 4:44 AM
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And don't forget that football stadiums have a much larger capacity than any other sport in the US. 70-100k, whereas hockey might be ~18k, for example. I'm not against the NFL coming to LA, but I don't think we need it downtown, that land could be used for much better uses than a stadium, IMO. The ONLY way I'd be down for this is if somehow the NFL or the team paid to have the various rail projects sped up dramatically. The city should in no way give any tax breaks or incentives to a team, nor should we beg. They should be paying us to come here.
Actually, I think a stadium is one of those commercial uses you back up right next to a freeway. Better a stadium rather than housing.
     
     
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New Gap Factory Store Now Open on Broadway in Downtown LA



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Not excited its a Gap outlet store but the space is clean and can act as a place holder until the street revives further.
     
     
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