Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 45

ryerop · #**881** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

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I think there's going to be a lot of good upcoming news for the Gateway as a result of the CCH. I'm posting my little rant from earlier this morning over on the City Creek Thread to here. I thought it fit well with your post. I'm looking forward to what I think is going to be a bright future for both Gateway and City Creek.

I actually had seen that , then happened on the article while I was browsing KSL, and thought it was kind of coincidental in the timing, I was going to quote the same thing you did but forgot, thanks for quoting it I liked what you had to say

ryerop · #**882** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by billbillbillbill

I thought it was a pretty underwhelming article that didn't do much to excite me. I will be glad when the Megaplex updates but it doesn't sound like they are doing much but hoping new tenants show up. I wish they would work to morph it from a shopping mall into more of an entertainment district similar to Ogden and even Provo's changes at Riverwoods. Bowling? Dance club? Flowrider? Things like that would make it more of a destination in my book.

I agree 100% about what they need to do eventually I definitely don't think this is going to be the thing that saves the Gateway from the direction they are heading, but with that said I did like the article because it's at least a step in the right direction showing some new interest in the area over there, with a couple new tenants. And I also think it says quite a bit that the movie theater over there isn't only updating their theater, but they also are committed to another 10 years. That is going to be a good sign of some kind of stability for whoever else is going to look at the Gateway as a potential business site for their store, or bowling alley, or grocery store, whatever it is it will at least help I think

JMK · #**883** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 8:56 PM**

I know it's been mentioned before, but the Gateway really needs to get some sort of grocery especially considering all the added residential and hotel being built in the area.

I wonder if the area where the forever 21 (plus some neighboring spaces) could fit a grocer or a City Target?

asies1981 · #**884** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 9:21 PM**

The Gateway is smart to focus on entertainment as a way to compete with City Creek. On a side note, here is a post on a development in the Central 9th neighborhood.

SLC Projects · #**885** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 9:24 PM**

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" Another new business is going in at the south end of the mall just under the entrance to Megaplex Theaters, a first outside of London and New York City called Mystery Rooms.

"The concept is, basically, they'll have two different rooms, you come in as a team, and you have to figure out how to get out of the room in an hour or less, " Hill said. "

I guess that's one way to keep people at the Gateway.

linguisize · #**886** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by SLC Projects

I guess that's one way to keep people at the Gateway.

Ha! I hadn't thought of it that way. Just lock them in!

JMK · #**887** Posted **Nov 4, 2014, 9:40 PM**

Fire Marshal would love this concept

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Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Quote from KSL.Com

" Another new business is going in at the south end of the mall just under the entrance to Megaplex Theaters, a first outside of London and New York City called Mystery Rooms.

"The concept is, basically, they'll have two different rooms, you come in as a team, and you have to figure out how to get out of the room in an hour or less, " Hill said. "

I guess that's one way to keep people at the Gateway.

ToysNoiz · #**888** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 5:34 AM**

151 Parking garage.

SLC Projects · #**889** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 6:14 AM**

I really hope that as this parking garage wraps up, we will start to witness the start of 151 tower.

ToysNoiz · #**890** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 7:21 AM**

For those interested, I've updated the SLC Photo Gallery in the My City Photos section of the website. Link in my signature.

Stenar · #**891** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 11:54 AM**

That's not the Northwest Quadrant. That's Rose Park.

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Originally Posted by delts145

The Northwest quadrant is looking pretty nice from this perspective.

Deseret News, Ravell Call

delts145 · #**892** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 12:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by billbillbillbill

I thought it was a pretty underwhelming article that didn't do much to excite me. I will be glad when the Megaplex updates but it doesn't sound like they are doing much but hoping new tenants show up. I wish they would work to morph it from a shopping mall into more of an entertainment district similar to Ogden and even Provo's changes at Riverwoods. Bowling? Dance club? Flowrider? Things like that would make it more of a destination in my book.

Bill, I didn't know that Riverwoods had made those kind of changes. Were those new additions or filling in failed former business? Sounds cool.

UTPlanner · #**893** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 4:12 PM**

The Alta Gateway project at 108 S. 500 W. has submitted their plans for a permit. The project contains 277 units. Still waiting on The Lofts at Gateway, the project at 411 W. 300 N. which would include 432 residential units. This growth could certainly have a positive impact on The Gateway though probably at least 18 months out. I also think that as lease rates continue to climb at City Creek, there will be tenants who simply cannot afford that location and would like to continue to have a presence downtown will move to Gateway.

I also heard a rumor that the group that is renovating the former Shilo Inn have acquired adjacent properties on Pierpont and 200 South to build a second hotel on the site. I don't know very much about it. I'll try and dig something up.

airhero · #**894** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by UTPlanner

The Alta Gateway project at 108 S. 500 W. has submitted their plans for a permit. The project contains 277 units. Still waiting on The Lofts at Gateway, the project at 411 W. 300 N. which would include 432 residential units. This growth could certainly have a positive impact on The Gateway though probably at least 18 months out. I also think that as lease rates continue to climb at City Creek, there will be tenants who simply cannot afford that location and would like to continue to have a presence downtown will move to Gateway.

I also heard a rumor that the group that is renovating the former Shilo Inn have acquired adjacent properties on Pierpont and 200 South to build a second hotel on the site. I don't know very much about it. I'll try and dig something up.

Property on 200 South and Pierpont? I really hope it's just parking lot space they snatched up. This is very interesting information. I'm curious about the need right now for yet another hotel adjacent to the Salt Palace with the CCH getting built (hopefully).

Also remind me, is Alta Gateway planning on tearing down the old white building on 500 West? That building could be an interesting reuse.

jedikermit · #**895** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by airhero

I'm curious about the need right now for yet another hotel adjacent to the Salt Palace with the CCH getting built (hopefully).

I'm glad that they're doing it; if they get a running start (ahead of CCH) it would benefit things like Outdoor Retailers and bring in larger groups even before CCH is finished (2018?)

And I hope it's the same style as the OLD Shilo Inn, with the red neon running up the sides and the rough concrete corrugated outside, and the nastyass balconies, and...

asies1981 · #**896** Posted **Nov 5, 2014, 10:02 PM**

Microbrewery coming to the Granary District.

scottharding · #**897** Posted **Nov 6, 2014, 12:29 AM**

The microbrew coming to the Granary district makes me happy. It's two blocks from my office.
Thanks for the awesome update, asies1981.

Future Mayor · #**898** Posted **Nov 6, 2014, 2:45 AM**

Yes the Alta Gateway project is the one that will be on 500 W and tearing down that older white building. This is the project that the Planning Commission unanimously approved, despite my statements that it goes against the no long continuous walls with entry points arguments, for over 400' of the blocks face. There justification was that the top of the building has differing heights, (only about 5-6' total change) and that there are doors (emergency stair exits) that face 500 W, so it's not a long continuous wall face. 400' + long wall, with no entrances or exits, with a total elevation change of maybe 6', sure seems like a giant wall to me.

Anyway, I too had always hoped that the warehouse would somehow be incorporated into any new development. Apparently Alta Gateway simply wants to build new with no attempt at preserving any history or grit to the area. Short sighted, very unoriginal developer. IMOt according to the County Assesors office the building was built in 1993

Future Mayor · #**899** Posted **Nov 6, 2014, 3:11 AM**

Despite it being a gigantic wall, the addition of Alta Gateway will help the Gateway survive, but solely focusing on becoming a destination again, Gateway needs to serve as a neighborhood anchor. A place where people from around the Wasatch Front visit on occasion, say before Jazz games, and the occasional once, maybe twice a year visit from a family going to the Childrens Museum, or people visiting the Planetarium. I have preached this every since City Creek Center was announced, Gateway needs to cater to their neighborhood, their neighborhood being not only the Gateway District but downtown, N. Temple and Marmalade.

Megaplex is currently the only theater in Salt Lake City (the employees at Sugarhouse 10 weren't sure if it was going to change to first run, or if it was simply a major update but still discount movies), and with a major renovation will be that much better and will compete better with Century, in SSL. The addition of Game works will bring a few new people, but many burbanites won't simply choose Gateway on a regular basis, because aside from a couple of things, mostly museums, they can get everything else closer to home.

So yes the Gateway should continue to add new retail stores, and some entertainment options, such as a bowling alley, but differentiate the bowling alley and gear it to the downtown resident, and make it a once or twice a year type of attraction for burbanites, something along the lines of Jupiter Bowl in Kimball Junction, something upscale, not simply another all star lanes. Then work on getting a drug store, and a small grocery store, not a grocery store for all of peoples needs but a store that serves most peoples regular needs. Put those two new features in along with a new access to 500 W and that's a solid new northern half of The Gateway.

StevenF · #**900** Posted **Nov 6, 2014, 3:48 AM**

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The original idea Boyer had for the area in yellow was to have a 12 floor hotel that curved around the plaza and would have completed the enclosure of the mall. Now that most of that section with Forever 21 and Old Navy are gone I would love to see the current owners do something similar and give some extra hight to that area. Be it a hotel or more housing, it will help center the Gateway as a local shopping area with more foot traffic.

I love the idea of a bowling ally, grocery store, pet store and anything else that caters more to a local population. There is a ton of housing going in around Gateway and they need more options than the many blocks to Harmon's or what I used to know as a Smiths on North Temple but now I see is a Mexican Market. Both of those, are quite the walk for people living at the Gateway and along 500 and 600 Wests. I think a great location for a grocery store might actually be the old Union Station, as it would give some great ambiance for the store.