Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[StevenF]

Originally Posted by Comrade

The Holiday team tweeted me this image of the improved design of the Shilo:

So much better without all the red.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by StevenF

So much better without all the red.

It's not offensively ugly now, but it's bland ugly.

[Ironweed]

I went to Wikipedia to compare the skyscrapers of Denver vs. those of Salt Lake.

There really is no comparison. Denver lists 32 buildings higher than 350 feet. Salt Lake has... (drumroll....) Six!! This apparently includes the upcoming 111 S Main. Sorry guys, but that is skid-midget...

As a Utah native, it is exciting to see transit oriented development taking place. Our population is expected to double in the next few decades which hopefully result in higher density development in our urban cores.

SLC as nice as it is, has a bunch of catching up to do from the skyscraper perspective.

[jubguy3]

That's why I think SLcentral should have been something much more than it is right now. Look at lodo. Now look at the — UTA has churned out for the past 15 years. This would bring a lot of development to west downtown.

[linguisize]

Originally Posted by StevenF

So much better without all the red.

Eh... It's not as bad as the original, but that's not saying much at all. Looks like they've potentially doing away with the stucco? It looks possible, but I'm not really sure.

It's a turd that could use a bit more polishing.

[justiny]

Originally Posted by Comrade

It's not offensively ugly now, but it's bland ugly.

Agreed. Unfortunately, I don't think any color option will improve that building.

Honestly, would anyone miss it if demo was an option?

[wrendog]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

I went to Wikipedia to compare the skyscrapers of Denver vs. those of Salt Lake.

There really is no comparison. Denver lists 32 buildings higher than 350 feet. Salt Lake has... (drumroll....) Six!! This apparently includes the upcoming 111 S Main. Sorry guys, but that is skid-midget...

As a Utah native, it is exciting to see transit oriented development taking place. Our population is expected to double in the next few decades which hopefully result in higher density development in our urban cores.

SLC as nice as it is, has a bunch of catching up to do from the skyscraper perspective.

Compare to other cities with similar MSA:

Hartford: 5 over 350 (3 over 500, though)
Birmingham: 4 over 350
Buffalo: 3 over 350 (1 over 500)
Raleigh: 3 over 350 (1 over 500, only 3 total over 275)
New Orleans: 16 over 350
Richmond: 3 over 350
Louisville: 7 over 350 (2 over 500)
OKC: 6 over 350 (2 over 500 including 844)
Rochester: 4 over 350
Grand Rapids: 1 over 350
Tucson: 0 over 350


Those are the 6 cities just above SLC and the 5 cities just below SLC in MSA population

It's different for CSA:

Kansas City: 13 over 350
Sacramento: 8 over 350
Charlotte: 15 over 350
Pittsburgh: 18 over 350
St. Louis: 9 over 350
Orlando: 7 over 350
Columbus: 13 over 350
Indianapolis: 9 over 350
Las Vegas: >40 over 350
Cincinnati: 13 over 350
Milwaukee: 8 over 350
Raleigh: 3 over 350


So, we are on par or better for cities with similar MSA, but way off for cities with similar CSA

[ToysNoiz]

Should we really count Vegas? That place is basically adult disneyland.... all hotels and casinos.

As for the Denver thing, I'd rather have smaller, more attractive buildings, than bigger, more abundant, bland buildings.

[UTPlanner]

I hope that during the renovation of the former Shilo Inn that they pay some attention to their parking garage. It is definitely looking its age. As for the "improved" elevations, certainly that's subjective, but honestly I don't think they're terrible. It is definitely bland but at least they're making an investment. It didn't seem like the Shilo people were ever going to spend any money on the property. It looked the same as when I stayed there 15 years ago.

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by ToysNoiz

As for the Denver thing, I'd rather have smaller, more attractive buildings, than bigger, more abundant, bland buildings.

We're from the 70's and 80's baby thanks to oil and gas! We rock our retro really well and not many cities can boast that 90% of their skyline is from one architectural era. Give it 20 more years. The retro boxiness will start becoming cool again.

[ToysNoiz]

Originally Posted by RyanD

not many cities can boast that 90% of their skyline is from one architectural era.

I don't know of any city that boast about the worst era of architecture.

[DCRes]

I went to the state fair last weekend and snapped a few photos of the redone roofs on the barns. I remember some pictures when they were working on them were shinny metal and people worried about the look. They have since shingled over that.

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[Scraperdude801]

Originally Posted by Comrade

The Holiday team tweeted me this image of the improved design of the Shilo:

Looks a little better. Am I the only one who misses the glass elevator? That thing offered pretty cool views of northern DT and Capitol Hill

[Old&New]

Originally Posted by Scraperdude801

Looks a little better. Am I the only one who misses the glass elevator? That thing offered pretty cool views of northern DT and Capitol Hill

I do. Perhaps whoever develops the CCH will put a glass elevator or two going up to a rotating restaurant on the roof. Something like that, on the RWP site, would offer the best views of downtown IMO.





http://www.skyboxfree.com/ecommerce_site...SQUARE-MALL-HOTEL-ON-INTERNATIONAL-DRIVE



http://www.macton.com/rail_equipment/revolving-restaurants.htm



http://www.hotels.com/ho105321/the-westin-peachtree-plaza-atlanta-united-states/

[StevenF]

Salt Lake County Mayer McAdams wants to rebrand Salt Lake as Ski City

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/top-st...y-quot-campaign-41144.shtml#.VBidTy5dVbx

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by StevenF

Salt Lake County Mayer McAdams wants to rebrand Salt Lake as Ski City

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/top-st...y-quot-campaign-41144.shtml#.VBidTy5dVbx

I foresee more hotel developments in the near future in cities like Salt Lake, Sandy, Draper, Murray.

[ToysNoiz]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

I foresee more hotel developments in the near future in cities like Salt Lake, Sandy, Draper, Murray.

I only want to see hotels in Salt Lake City.

[StevenF]

Originally Posted by ToysNoiz

I only want to see hotels in Salt Lake City.

Problem with that desire is that the ski resorts that are being pushed with this ad campaign are the ones up Little and Big Cottenwood Canyons. So as Projects stated it will add hotels to Sandy, Draper, Murray and Salt Lake City. Yes, some will be placed in downtown but I would say 60-70% of them will be in the suburbs unfortunately.

[jubguy3]

Work is moving fast on the law college. Facade is going up. I'd say it will be ready by the end if the year? IDK the schedule.

They have removed part of the temporary sidewalk on the east side of main. You can see how expansive of a site it is. Work seems to be moving fast on the theater. Piles continue to be driven for 111.

The denver street apartments site is still being cleared, You can see rebar popping over the temp sidewalk on the 4th and 4th project. It has yet to rise above the first floor.

Work on the hope lodge is moving fast. I can't really describe it though.

[ToysNoiz]

Originally Posted by StevenF

Salt Lake County Mayer McAdams wants to rebrand Salt Lake as Ski City

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/top-st...y-quot-campaign-41144.shtml#.VBidTy5dVbx

Photo from Visit Salt Lake.