Calgary International Airport II

[YYCspotter]

Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

So dumb question, but are there any plans to extend the airport any further after the new International terminal is done? I feel like airports are always under construction…so what's next?

I would expect them to redo the current B/C pier.

[Coldrsx]

Going to be NRT-YYC-YEG in a few weeks comin home, you're welcome.

Also, this means one of you must fly IA to Europe from YEG.

[MrBigStuff]

Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

So dumb question, but are there any plans to extend the airport any further after the new International terminal is done? I feel like airports are always under construction…so what's next?

Maybe tweaking of the terminals - but it would be neat to see a runway built to parallel RWY 11 - 29 - and make them a matching set like 17 - 35 L & R
I think that it would be better to number the gates through out the whole air terminal - using just numbers - instead of using combination letters and numbers. A diagram of this - earlier in this thread - looked more confusing than an income tax form.

[RyLucky]

Originally Posted by Cage

Bringing your war on cars to another theatre is see.

Yes.. well said.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

So dumb question, but are there any plans to extend the airport any further after the new International terminal is done? I feel like airports are always under construction…so what's next?

As others have said the B/C pier gets renovated, more precisely international and transborder operations get pulled out of the domestic terminal. Domestic preboard security screening gets consolidated to the area where USCBP preclearance is currently located. Consolidated prebooard screening to have 15-20 lanes. Also post security food court and retail area will accompany the renovations.

CBSA immigration area gets turned into additional bag carousels, the bag makeup and sorting faculty gets moved back side the terminal and old gate 29 renovated I to useable space.

Longterm if additional gates are required, the transborder pier can expand to handle 20 gate hammerhead concourse.

[Policy Wonk]

I'm not sure how seriously I take this, but there are some parties interested in a dedicated fly-in/fly-out terminal with US and Canada customs, dormitory and long-term parking facilities onsite.

[Johnny Aussie]

According to airlineroute.net KLM will be flying the 772 on 4 of the 7 weekly flights replacing 333/332. I actually thought this was happening this summer as well. So technically no change?

http://airlineroute.net/2014/09/03/kl-s15update3/

Originally Posted by Policy Wonk

I'm not sure how seriously I take this, but there are some parties interested in a dedicated fly-in/fly-out terminal with US and Canada customs, dormitory and long-term parking facilities onsite.

This is certainly a possibility. With this particular segment continuing to grow it makes sense! In Australia they have done this in Perth already. Muchly needed there although the FIFO sector here has started to slow a bit.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

According to airlineroute.net KLM will be flying the 772 on 4 of the 7 weekly flights replacing 333/332. I actually thought this was happening this summer as well. So technically no change?

http://airlineroute.net/2014/09/03/kl-s15update3/

I believe this year we saw the 772 on 3 of the flights. So this would be an extra day of 772 service.

[YYCguys]

Originally Posted by Policy Wonk

I'm not sure how seriously I take this, but there are some parties interested in a dedicated fly-in/fly-out terminal with US and Canada customs, dormitory and long-term parking facilities onsite.

What is a "fly in/fly out terminal"? And where would it be?

[SmokWawelski]

Looks like yyc is getting ready for September 18th changes. Lots of large lcd screens/tv all over the airport, still under raps.

[Chadillaccc]

YYC is on track to break 15 million passengers for the first time this year.


Our 12-month ended July was at 14 931 000.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Policy Wonk

I'm not sure how seriously I take this, but there are some parties interested in a dedicated fly-in/fly-out terminal with US and Canada customs, dormitory and long-term parking facilities onsite.

If they can pay it off in 5-7 years great, but longer term than that camp work should be ramping downwards.

[PPAR]

I took Rouge to and from Italy this summer. Pretty sure I was on the same 767 that had been a mainline plane the previous winter on a flight to Maui. I don't think they had changed the seats over to the new Rouge format yet on the fight out. The flight home I think had the new seat format. I did not appreciate much difference in comfort, although the degree of recline seemed minimal on the way home. Service is also reduced. No free alcoholic drinks and meals are much more basic.
Rouge is certainly getting the hate on travel forums. I can totally see why- they have reduced service quality without any change in pricing. The marketing game is "look at what is shiny and new" but frequent flyers just are not fooled.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by YYCguys

What is a "fly in/fly out terminal"? And where would it be?

A fly-in/fly-out terminal is especially designed pax terminal for large private company charters. The current FIFO terminal needs are being met by the fixed base operators, Shell, Esso avitat, millionaire, etc.

A consolidated FIFO terminal could be located anywhere there is access to airside taxiways and runways. There also has to be large filed for cheap Longterm parking.

Originally Posted by Policy Wonk

I'm not sure how seriously I take this, but there are some parties interested in a dedicated fly-in/fly-out terminal with US and Canada customs, dormitory and long-term parking facilities onsite.

The problem with dedicated FIFO terminals is cost. The FIFO concept is dependant on sweating the ground assets to lower costs. For example using cheap parking over by the FBO, as soon as he parking lot is paved, costs rise rather dramatically. Using inadequate checkin and security screening facilities also reduces costs.

For a dedicated FIFO terminal sizing requirements, look to the small BC airports like YLW, YYF, YKA, etc. those are the type of facilities that can handle 550k-1m pax throughput.

[PPAR]

From cage's comments, it seems to me that an expanded FIFO operation would not be in the interests of the airport authority. It would be more of a cut rate competitor to their services.

[Policy Wonk]

YYC and YEG already gouge the FIFO operations. They're doing fine.

[Aegis]

Is there a precedent for Canada/US Customs to be located in a smaller FIFO facility?

[Policy Wonk]

There is a dedicated "international terminal" at Love Field in Dallas for private flights, but the problem for CBP and air travel is the US political border lunacy has left airports severely short staffed. Pre-Clearance itself is in jeopardy. Oil sands operators have been lobbying for CBSA to come up with an ad hoc pre-clearance arrangement so they can fly charters non-stop from the US to the project airstrips.

[shreddog]

Originally Posted by PPAR

I took Rouge to and from Italy this summer...

Just flew YUL-FCO (Rome) on the Rouge 763. The return leg was FCO-YYZ on mainline. Overall the seat comfort in Y class was similar, though service was noticeably "lighter" on Rouge. That said, I slept most of the flight so I didn't really care. Interesting that I wasn't able to select an "upgrade" using E-upgrades on the Rouge leg, though I could have purchased the upgrade for $498 (so a wash in that one). As it was a 763, the premium seats weren't that great.

Interesting in that I flew Rouge both ways YVR-SFO in late July and was comped to premium both ways. (I am SE). Unfortunately they only had one free seat on the outbound so we stayed in the regular seats - so I got to experience both options on that flight.

Overall the seats are okay for shorthaul on the 319, Premium is not really worth it (though they did have a greater pitch as well as the vacant seat).

My big beefs with Rouge are:
1- No real pricing difference from mainline for a definitely inferior product
2- IFE, bad Wifi connectivity and bad/limited selection
3- the age/experience of the FA. Not sure I feel comfortable with them in an emergency. Though the upside is that it appears that my 14 year old son can get a job as a flight attendant!

[flipstah]

I hope with the new airport, they can snag more operators in here, like Cathay Pacific or Emirates.