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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 6:31 PM
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"But at a closed meeting in February, the foundation asked for a climate-controlled pedway with moving sidewalks that will cost $25 million to $40 million. Without that, the U of A will not participate."

Hahaha. You know what will be pretty much the only factor on whether the U of A takes the space or not? Whether the provincial government covers its rent 100% or not.
I know. At the end of the day I still have my doubts about this project.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 6:44 PM
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Post 2125 I mentioned it last week.

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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 8:57 PM
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Unfortunately, don't expect too many if any corporate HO relocations. They simply don't happen that often period. Instead, we are and should be focusing on growing our our homegrown companies. There are a number of smaller start-ups that are making their mark and growing. There are also a number of established companies that are poised to grow over the next number of years. Reality is that our office market will continue to be dominated by smaller and mid-sized companies and there's nothing wrong with that.
In the day and age of computers Skype , location of a head office is less and less important. If affordable long term leases are available why not relocate, shareholders of these corporations could care less where they operate out off profits is what they want. If Edmonton was pro active in the luring game I am sure we could become a player in this. Instead of having a defeated attitude. We had head offices leave so there is no doubt we can get others here. We're a capital city I think its time we start operating like one.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 10:20 PM
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In the day and age of computers Skype , location of a head office is less and less important. If affordable long term leases are available why not relocate, shareholders of these corporations could care less where they operate out off profits is what they want. If Edmonton was pro active in the luring game I am sure we could become a player in this. Instead of having a defeated attitude. We had head offices leave so there is no doubt we can get others here. We're a capital city I think its time we start operating like one.
you make the assumption that rents are a prime motivator... they are not. gross rental costs usually account for something in the range of 2.5-4.5% of gross business expenses. salaries and benefits can often account for between 35 - 60%. please note that I am talking about office occupiers, not manufacturing or retail operations. staff turnover costs can easily account for another 10 - 15%. that's why all of those head offices didn't relocate here when we had lots of vacancy and rents were cheap. those same firms will be happy to pay higher rents if it meant they could reduce staff and staff retention costs. that's where a city's "life style" offerings - everything from education to health care to recreation to sports and theatre - become much more important than cheap rent and access to skype. and if you want any proof of that, most of those head offices that left relocated to higher rent districts because that's where the value was.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 9:46 AM
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you make the assumption that rents are a prime motivator... they are not. gross rental costs usually account for something in the range of 2.5-4.5% of gross business expenses. salaries and benefits can often account for between 35 - 60%. please note that I am talking about office occupiers, not manufacturing or retail operations. staff turnover costs can easily account for another 10 - 15%. that's why all of those head offices didn't relocate here when we had lots of vacancy and rents were cheap. those same firms will be happy to pay higher rents if it meant they could reduce staff and staff retention costs. that's where a city's "life style" offerings - everything from education to health care to recreation to sports and theatre - become much more important than cheap rent and access to skype. and if you want any proof of that, most of those head offices that left relocated to higher rent districts because that's where the value was.

Well then why did head offices like the brick and Shaw leave here , did those costs not apply to them ? Not buying it . Why would they leave those cheap leases and have that cost burden when companies are not eager to move their head offices. No different then people flocking here for jobs and better opportunity's That's what this city has to sell. I also started a business I was told the same negative things it was like people were putting up walls , with comments why Edmonton , do you realize how many of those businesses are already here, you know hard it will be to try and establish a name. Well I built it up fast and had it making a profit within a month with determined sales. If you put up walls all around you eventually box yourself in . And in sales of any type don't be ashamed of the doors you knocked on be ashamed of the ones you didn't. So why are the head offices still here not flocking to those higher rent districts because the value is there? And one last thing with the attitudes in here about offices well I suggest last one there turn off the lights. Cheers.

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 12:57 PM
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Downtown maps will aid tourists

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014

The city hopes new directional signs will better help pedestrians find their way around downtown.

It has spent $75,000 on five prototype maps in the Edmonton core, a move Jim Taylor says is long overdue.

"We're woefully behind other major cities," Taylor, executive director of the Downtown Business Association, said Monday. "This is the absolutely best time for us to start this because we're about to see a building phase in downtown that we have never seen in our lifetimes."...

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 12:59 PM
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Galleria project faces unanswered questions
Foolhardy to endorse project until city knows risks, responsibilities

Paula Simons
Edmonton Journal

Tuesday, April 15, 2014

At first blush, the Galleria project looks like a great deal. The city is only being asked to contribute $50 million in money and land to a billiondollar cultural and commercial megaproject, with potential to revitalize the area around the CN Tower. But a new report to be discussed at City Council Tuesday suggests the Edmonton Downtown Academic and Cultural Centre Project, to give it its formal name, should be approached with caution...

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Galleria project faces unanswered questions
Foolhardy to endorse project until city knows risks, responsibilities

Paula Simons
Edmonton Journal

Tuesday, April 15, 2014

At first blush, the Galleria project looks like a great deal. The city is only being asked to contribute $50 million in money and land to a billiondollar cultural and commercial megaproject, with potential to revitalize the area around the CN Tower. But a new report to be discussed at City Council Tuesday suggests the Edmonton Downtown Academic and Cultural Centre Project, to give it its formal name, should be approached with caution...

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from a letter to council:

Dear Mayor and Councillors,
 
The above noted project is – once again – coming in front of City Council later today, April 15th, under Items 6,5, 6.6 and 6.7.
 
That inevitably means it is also – once again – in the media and the subject of news reports and newspaper columns.
 
Unfortunately, some of the “too many unanswered questions” appearing in the media are questions that simply demonstrate a misunderstanding of the project.  When the questions are “who will pay to heat the space and shovel the snow”, how does one answer the first question when the space in question is not heated?  As for the second question, the answer is exactly the same as it for every other property in the City of Edmonton - the responsibility for shoveling the snow rests on the owner of the property, not the City of Edmonton, when the owner of the property is not the City of Edmonton.
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The report appears to link the sale of the above lands to EDACC with the City’s acquisition of public access to the Galleria gathering space.  In fact these are only indirectly linked.  The noted public access to the Galleria gathering space is being donated by Qualico out of our Station Lands development to facilitate the development and ensure the success of EDACC’s stated goals and objectives which are more than the provision of needed theatre facilities.  In partnership with the Arts Community, the University of Alberta, the private sector – including Qualico – the Galleria Project is not about short term project development, it is about long-term city building.
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I am not in a position to comment on EDACC’s existing or proposed tenant’s for the office components of the Galleria Project but I am happy to comment on the University of Alberta’s commitment not only to the Galleria Project but to downtown Edmonton as a result of that commitment is without question.  The additional critical mass as well as the additional diversity that 5,000 staff and students will bring not only to downtown but to the North Edge and the Quarters is simply not available without EDACC.  I am also happy to comment on the report’s note that “the most significant risk is the ability to generate the revenues that have been identified.”  It goes on to state that “critical assumptions have been made relative to office and retail lease rates, rate of office space absorption, retail market demand, financing costs, construction costs, fundraising commitments and availability of government grants”.  It concludes by stating that “should any of the assumptions made in the business case not be realized, there is a risk that the funding to build, operate and maintain the theatres will not be sufficient to achieve the goal of providing affordable space to the arts community”.  The problem with that conclusion is that it assumes that any of these things could fail at any time when they are all integrally related to each other.  All of them need to fall in to place in order for the project to commence in the first place.  At that point in time, the risk virtually disappears because each and every one of the pieces has been secured – they come as a complete package.  EDACC has been criticized for not having a contingency plan for each of these elements but that fails to recognize that it is that very interconnectivity between each of the development components – costs and equity and financing and tenants etc. – is what makes up a contingency plan that ensures completion.
 
As for the “concern as to the potential impact on the market of building additional new office and retail space in the downtown”, that strikes me as quite the straw man argument.  “Given the existing vacancy within the EPCOR Tower” and the possibility that “lease rates may drop in the event than an oversupply of office space is realized” can hardly be a reason not to support EDACC, or any developer that wants to proceed at their own risk, particularly when it was not a reason for the City of Edmonton to support the construction of new tower for the consolidation of its own office requirements.  The City has no business deciding what the market should be able to do whether that relates to potential tenant’s having the same rights to reach the same conclusions as the City did or the right for developers to make their own decisions on when and what to develop.
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A truly outstanding letter Mr.


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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 6:12 PM
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Well said Ken. We will soon see if we have elected a Mayor and Councillors with VISION and LEADERSHIP.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 6:18 PM
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The city shouldn't really be the subject of letter writing right now, none of it really matters if the province doesn't fund the development.

This entire process is messed up.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 6:27 PM
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The city shouldn't really be the subject of letter writing right now, none of it really matters if the province doesn't fund the development.

This entire process is messed up.
Yes, but as Mr. Cantor points out, each party owns a critical piece - a veto if you will - the only way this deal can move forward is iteratively - if each party continues to express progressive and sincere support in principle and in a rough rotation, all parties are eventually able to commit and details finalized as they come up... of course some details could be showstoppers but the chance of that gets less and less as the process progresses.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 6:50 PM
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The city shouldn't really be the subject of letter writing right now, none of it really matters if the province doesn't fund the development.

This entire process is messed up.
It is confusing to say the least.

But sending a letter to city council and the Mayor is part and parcel due diligence.

It's the right thing to do at the right time.
     
     
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Alberta Avenue arts centre approved by city council

EDMONTON - The city is going ahead with a $10.2-million Alberta Avenue arts facility sent back for more study last year.

The ArtsCommon, approved by council without debate Tuesday, will be a two-storey structure at 9131 118th Ave., site of the old Alberta Cycle shop.

It will feature a theatre, gallery, coffee shop and suites with work space for 10 artists.

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 8:16 PM
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^ Linkie no workie.

Even though it sounds similar to the Nina Haggerty Centre, I welcome the ArtsCommon addition to the neighbourhood. More places for people in the area to stop and hang out as well as a place to grow the artistic community in Alberta Avenue.
     
     
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^ fixed

I like how it fills a big block long gap in the most vibrant area of the Ave. There is also a 4 story mixed use residential building with three CRU's that is going in on the other side of 92st on 118th as well. These two buildings should really transform the streetscape in that area
     
     
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Galleria motion passes at City Hall. One piece of the puzzle put in place.
     
     
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City councillors vote to put extra $27M into road repairs

Gordon Kent
Edmonton Journal

Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Driving around Edmonton might be a little smoother this year after councillors voted Tuesday to collect an extra $27.1 million in taxes for road repairs.

While city property taxes will now rise about 7.2 per cent, the typical overall tax bill will still rise the 4.9 per cent council approved last December.

That's because the provincial education tax - representing about one-third of a homeowner's total bill - is scheduled to drop as much as 4.5 per cent...

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Terwillegar footbridge going ahead

Edmonton Journal

Wednesday, April 16, 2014

City councillors approved an environmental impact report Tuesday that paves the way for construction of the Terwillegar footbridge. The 280-metre bridge will span the North Saskatchewan River on the park's north edge, part of a hiking and cycling route that will eventually stretch from Devon to Fort Saskatchewan.

Work is scheduled to start this spring and be completed in late 2016.

Councillors instructed staff to work with the public on a possible new direct trail alignment on the north side to the Fort Edmonton Park bridge.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2014, 2:20 PM
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Correct decision at this time. Lets see some more details and transparency before putting the city on the hook


‘We cannot be forced to throw money around’: Council puts brakes on Galleria project

Edmonton’s city council on Tuesday night temporarily put the brakes on the ambitious $1-billion downtown Galleria project to find more partners willing to share the cost.

“We would all like to see this get done, but city council would like to see partners in the project,” Coun. Scott McKeen said. “As elected representatives, we cannot be forced to throw money around.

“We need some help on this. We want to be comfortable that the project is viable overall, and that it is going to be a going concern.”

Councillors passed three motions in favour of the project — but before making a commitment want reassurance that others will share the cost of building a $30-million pedway to the proposed arts venue from the Churchill LRT Station.

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