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Old Posted Mar 31, 2014, 5:57 PM
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Comcast Center aka "The big flash (thumb) drive" is not a supertall. LOL
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2014, 6:01 PM
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I think the comcast center looks like a philadelphian version of an easter island statue.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2014, 6:21 PM
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No it wouldn't have counted-CC is only 297M.
Ah, I was thinking 985 feet instead of 975 feet. I see why it missed the cut.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2014, 6:37 PM
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Well, it seems I started a conversation here. I didn't mean to open a can of beans about the height issue. But one thing is certain now, and that the new CITC Comcast Skyscraper will undoubtedly break the height barrier about "SuperTalls" and cease the arguing. (Or maybe it will still, afterall. Since th new CITC's roof appears or is lower than the Comcast 1 Tower.) If the architect would have just broke the 1000 foot height with a full roof, instead of tapering off to the spire! (I can hear the ongoing comparisons still~~) Yes, I'm still guilty of that too!
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2014, 6:59 PM
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get with the metric system my man, its the way of the future and the world standard. a supertall isn't 1000' or 984', it is 300 meters.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2014, 7:33 PM
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get with the metric system my man, its the way of the future and the world standard. a supertall isn't 1000' or 984', it is 300 meters.
We're America.... so f*** your metric system.



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Old Posted Apr 1, 2014, 5:27 PM
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The .pdf is amazing and full of every detail and rendering you could want to know about the building, but the elevation rendering toward the middle end shows how significantly lower CITC roof height is to the currently existing Comcast Tower. CITC's roof height is 911 feet and 6 inches.
This post brought to mind http://philaphilia.blogspot.com/ new graphic:

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Old Posted Apr 1, 2014, 7:50 PM
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roof height CITC vs Comcast Center

The highest occupied offices/hotel floor in CITC is higher than the highest occupied office in the Comcast Center. How much higher I'm not sure.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2014, 8:40 PM
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Here are those numbers:

According to the PDF that Summers linked to in Post #468, the office portion of the CITC ends at the 659.5' mark, so even with Comcast Center's crown not being occupied, the highest CC office should look down on the highest CITC office by quite a margin.

The hotel portion, which has the hotel lobby, restaurant, bar, and sky garden at the very top of the inhabitable portion of the tower, tops out at 911.5' (compared to CC's 975' roof, which includes the mechanical floors in the crown.) The CITC's cooling tower extends 20' higher than CC's roof (to 995.5'), and the blade (or "architectural lantern", as per the PDF) reaches up from there.
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2014, 5:42 AM
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Final bills for the construction of this tower has been passed by City Council. This officially has FULL approvals



http://www.centercityphila.org/pressroom/developments040114.php
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Terrific news!
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Some details/information via Curbed:

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The Philadelphia City Planning Commission held a Civic Design Review for the much-hyped Comcast Innovation & Technology Center last Monday and here's the breakdown on everything from square footage to bike racks, along with some juicy new renderings and details.

The new Norman Foster-designed tower at 18th & Arch has been fast-tracked for approval and it looks like shovels will be hitting the dirt this summer. Standing tall at 1,121 feet, the CITC will certainly transform the skyline, but how will it transform its immediate footprint? Here's what we've got so far:

· 59 floors, 1,121 ft
· 1,321,921 square feet of office space
· 242,680 square feet of hotel space (222 rooms over 12 floors)
· 3,483 square feet of retail space
· LEED Gold or Platinum (anticipated)
· 126-foot glass blade at top
· Concourse connection to Comcast Center and Suburban Station
· 47 total bike racks on Arch Street/Cuthbert Street
· Ground floor bike shower/changing room
· 21 total outdoor benches
· 20% water use reduction
· 3-story office skygardens
· 70 underground parking spaces
· Open to the public from at least 8AM-9PM daily


Additionally, public art will play a huge role in bringing the tower to life, as at least 1% of the total hard construction cost will be spent on creating art in public places. Stunning lobbies are just one of many things that architect Norman Foster is known for, so it's safe to say that we should expect to be impressed. CITC will also feature a connection to the existing underground concourse, so between the bike-friendly street plan and immediate access to Suburban Station, visitors will have plenty of earth-friendly transit options.
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http://philly.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...comcast-innovation-technology-center.php
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2014, 7:22 PM
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The .pdf is amazing and full of every detail and rendering you could want to know about the building, but the elevation rendering toward the middle end shows how significantly lower CITC roof height is to the currently existing Comcast Tower. CITC's roof height is 911 feet and 6 inches.

significantly lower? 60 feet is significant between two large skyscrapers are you kidding me?

So the main roof is a little below the current comcast, the upper roof is a little higher and the new building may have more skyline impact.

Get over it people.
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2014, 10:56 PM
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Yes it makes sense to "get over it" Why?

The reasonable and generally agreed upon definition of the height of a building is based upon the highest extent of its structural framing system whether it's the stone masonry of the spire of a Gothic cathedral or the steel and/or RIC framing of a skyscraper.

So the new One World Trade Center has(I believe) a spire of 450 feet and the Empire State building has one of 250 feet. Maybe someone knows these stats for the Burj Kalika in Dubai.

This reasoning means that an antenna should not count toward the official height of a building since it is not an attenuation of the structural framing system of a building.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2014, 2:20 AM
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Yes it makes sense to "get over it" Why?

The reasonable and generally agreed upon definition of the height of a building is based upon the highest extent of its structural framing system whether it's the stone masonry of the spire of a Gothic cathedral or the steel and/or RIC framing of a skyscraper.

So the new One World Trade Center has(I believe) a spire of 450 feet and the Empire State building has one of 250 feet. Maybe someone knows these stats for the Burj Kalika in Dubai.

This reasoning means that an antenna should not count toward the official height of a building since it is not an attenuation of the structural framing system of a building.
I'm having trouble understanding your point in this post, you say the reasonable generally agreed upon method of measuring a building is to the include the spire or antennae, but then conclude by saying it shouldn't count since it's not an attenuation of the structure?
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2014, 4:25 AM
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building height

What I thought I said and gave reasons for was the following

A spire should and does count in the overall height of a building an antenna does not!
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The Most Powerful Man in Philadelphia

Comcast’s Brian Roberts on the state of the company, plans for its new building, and how Philadelphia’s fate is now entwined with that of its most high-profile corporation.

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/most-powerful-man-philadelphia-2014/
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2014, 6:37 AM
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The Most Powerful Man in Philadelphia

Comcast’s Brian Roberts on the state of the company, plans for its new building, and how Philadelphia’s fate is now entwined with that of its most high-profile corporation.

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/most-powerful-man-philadelphia-2014/
Obviously Brian Roberts doesn't have the pull on his own network, NBC, to get SNL not to make jabs at Philadelphia. Which seemingly started when Comcast purchased NBC.
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2014, 2:09 PM
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Obviously Brian Roberts doesn't have the pull on his own network, NBC, to get SNL not to make jabs at Philadelphia. Which seemingly started when Comcast purchased NBC.
Jabs like this did not originate with Comcast acquisition and are based on broader stereotypes of cities. SNL often makes jabs at NYC and Boston as well... Among other cities. Have a sense of humor! I don't want executives interfering with the comedy writers... They aren't as funny.
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