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Old Posted Nov 21, 2013, 3:39 AM
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This is not just a skyscraper site. One of the biggest topics on this sight is urbanity. Dallas has worked hard on its zoning and creating a masterplan to add urban parks, rail transportation, better linkages to neighborhoods and more human scale building requirements, and it is paying off. We'd love to have lots of tall towers, but they need to be done right. Right now, in the Uptown area alone, there are 20 large projects at various stages of construction. And this is a small area and doesn't even include Oak Lawn or East Dallas, which have many more projects going on right now that is of the type that Dallasites have been clamoring for, for years. I would not trade that for taller buildings unless they were Vancouver style towers with more human scale at the sidewalk level. I get that they aren't as exciting but look at the great cities of the world. Lots of human scale at street level. So yes, in the case of my city, if you could fill every block with 5-10 story buildings like 3700 McKinney or the Gables Whole Foods projects, I would take that every time.

And no, one cannot compare what is going on in the Cityplace are to the Galleria area in Houston. The Cityplace area is far more urban and includes the future ACS project, and West Village project as part of the Cityplace TIF in northern Uptown. The buildings and projects going up in this area are all mixed use and are connected to the rest of the city by a subway station and a streetcar system that has a turnaround platform. The buildings are all zoned for wide sidewalks, very little surface parking, and certain amount of mixed usage per acre. Even the shopping centers that were suburban before cannot be rebuilt in the same manner and are pretty much goners. The Galleria Area in Houston is more like a bigger version of the Galleria Dallas area. Lots of individual towers, some mixed uses, but mostly not of what I'd rate as great urbanity at the street level. But even in that area of Dallas, the zoning has been changed, and future projects have to follow a similar model adopted by the inner city areas of Dallas. I'm not saying that I hate Houston or something. Its pretty much my second work home, and I have many friends there. There are some great projects there too. But I LOVE what Dallas is deliberately trying to do. The results are not always perfect, but there is a real effort to make Dallas into a real city, and its paying off at the street level.
The Galleria area of Houston (Uptown) is truly mixed use with our largest concentration of hotels, over ten million sq ft of office space, and thousands of residences within it's boundary.

As far as the impact, time will time because currently there's not much difference between the two cities in terms of density (Dallas has a denser immediate area around DT, but Houston's core is overall denser) or walkability or any other measure.

Personally I think Houston having it's largest and densest employment centers (Uptown, DT, and Texas Medical Center) within 5 miles of each gives it the slight edge in terms of future urbanity. DFW's employment is even more spread out than Houston's which makes it harder to connect residences to jobs.
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2013, 4:15 AM
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While on the urban topic I thought I might as well post some new urban developments in DFW. It truly is a great to see so many massive developments get off the drawing boards.

From Owlhorn's post #2680
State Farm Regional HQ (U/C)



Midtown (In Development)


Preston Hollow Village (U/C)


Lake Highlands (U/C)


The Canyon in Oak Cliff (U/C)


Spire (In Development)


Grandscape U/C


Cypress Waters at North Lake U/C
Up to 10,000 residents

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Old Posted Nov 21, 2013, 7:00 PM
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Yes Downtown Dallas needs to catch up, but it appears the fever is spreading more into Knox-Henderson, Oak Lawn, Design District and Bryan Place rather than downtown. While those neighborhoods are already considered Dallas' more urban areas they are becoming even more dense and urban. I always find it funny when posters from other cities make it seem like Uptown is the only dense/urban neighborhood in Dallas. I live in Oak Lawn and it feels the same as Uptown to me in a lot of ways as I can pretty much walk to anything i want to.
Absolutely. Almost all of Dallas' center city is densifying at a ridiculous rate. It's really exciting to see.

What I thought was very telling was when I was in town a few weeks ago with some buddies from San Diego. None of them had ever been to Dallas, but they were all impressed by Dallas' density and several thought that Dallas looked like a "cleaner, newer Boston." Obviously that's probably overstating things, but considering where Dallas was, it's a huge change.
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2013, 7:30 PM
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So are we back to discussing DFW developments and not Houston developments in the Dallas Fort Worth thread?
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2013, 7:53 PM
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So are we back to discussing DFW developments and not Houston developments in the Dallas Fort Worth thread?
Crazy idea! haha
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2013, 12:15 AM
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While on the urban topic I thought I might as well post some new urban developments in DFW. It truly is a great to see so many massive developments get off the drawing boards.

From Owlhorn's post #2680
State Farm Regional HQ (U/C)



Midtown (In Development)


Preston Hollow Village (U/C)


Lake Highlands (U/C)


The Canyon in Oak Cliff (U/C)


Spire (In Development)


Grandscape U/C


Cypress Waters at North Lake U/C
Up to 10,000 residents

Love Dallas, Texas as always.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2013, 12:26 AM
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Christmas Tree lighting in Klyde Warren Park, Downtown Dallas, November 23, 2013:


Klyde Warren Park Christmas Tree, Downtown Dallas, Nov 23, 2013 by skys the limit2, on Flickr
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2013, 2:04 AM
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Christmas Tree lighting in Klyde Warren Park, Downtown Dallas, November 23, 2013:


Klyde Warren Park Christmas Tree, Downtown Dallas, Nov 23, 2013 by skys the limit2, on Flickr
Looking good. Anyone heard anything about the ice rink in that park?
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Renderings of new apartments/retail in the Farmers Market redevelopment











http://www.scribd.com/doc/188058613/Farmers-Market-District-Redevelopment-Plan
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Townhomes across the street from Farmers Market under construction (taken last month)





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Townhomes across the street from Farmers Market under construction (taken last month)





I love those town homes. As someone mentioned over on Dallas Metropolis, those town homes remind me a little of Boston.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2013, 2:34 PM
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First look: New Victory Park apartment project near downtown Dallas
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7:54 am on December 3, 2013

Developer Camden Property Trust has taken the wraps off designs for its new Dallas apartment project in Victory Park.

The 423-unit rental community is slated for the block of parking lots just north of the American Airlines Center arena between Houston Street and Victory Avenue.

Houston-based Camden bought the 6-acre property last year and is ready to begin construction on the 4-story apartment project. The construction will take more than a year.

The big development is one of two new apartment deals Camden has in the works for the downtown area.

Not counting Camden’s project, there are already four new apartment communities under construction in the Victory Park area.



http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2013/1...tment-project-near-downtown-dallas.html/
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http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2013/1...tment-project-near-downtown-dallas.html/

Rendering of the new Camden Property in Victory Park (423 units)

It will be built in the parking lot just to the North of the AAC and looks like constructions should start any day now.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2013, 3:12 PM
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First look: New Victory Park apartment project near downtown Dallas

Developer Camden Property Trust has taken the wraps off designs for its new Dallas apartment project in Victory Park.
Looks like another "Houston Wrap".
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Counted 9 cranes up on my way to work from downtown to uptown this morning.

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Old Posted Dec 3, 2013, 7:18 PM
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Is that brick I see?

The cream, tan, and chocolate brick color combo looks great!
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Looks like another "Houston Wrap".
Not sure what the 'Houston Wrap' is, but I think you mean the 'Texas Wrap' or Donut. Parking garage wrapped by apartments with internal courtyards. First time I've heard it called a 'Houston Wrap' if that's what you mean.

Article on it:
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/the-astu...tifamily-housing-mutates-and-multiplies/
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2013, 9:28 PM
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Some architect presenting a description of the new Main Street project in Houston claimed his was not that.
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Hmm. Well I still don't know what the 'Houston Wrap' looks like. I do know this style of development started back in the early 90's and has spread as more developers saw the 'Texas Wrap' or Doughnut as a profitable model. There are different versions of it but the basic concept remains the same. I have also read several architects over time try to stake the claim they were the first to come with the concept...... Regardless the model works well with wood framed structures on a small(er) site.

Based on the rendering, looks like Camden is using their same model (the Texas Doughnut) for the tight site. One the first for them in Dallas with this model is the Farmer's Market apartments.
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