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Old Posted Jun 25, 2013, 2:30 PM
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I assume it would be a good way to start, demonstrate support and then have someone else pick it up?
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2013, 2:43 PM
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Thomas cook group is "shopping" for new routes and has put out RFP's...

They want to expand long haul operations and have put out two RFP's but are opening it up to other airports very shortly...

EIA wants FRA? Heres a chance at getting Condor to take a look... Its not a scheduled airline but it looks like the only possible carrier for that route at the moment.
When you put out an RFP you put in a set of requirements that need to be met. I am assuming it would in this case be load factors and revenue per flight. How do airports like EIA determine these factors and would they subsidize this route if required?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2013, 5:18 PM
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When you put out an RFP you put in a set of requirements that need to be met. I am assuming it would in this case be load factors and revenue per flight. How do airports like EIA determine these factors and would they subsidize this route if required?
Its alot of number crunching based on O&D numbers etc... With Condor it would be based strongly on tourism as the carrier is basically a leisure airline.

Most of Condors flights are primarly based on inbound traffic from Germany. So you need to have the appeal of drawing Germans to your destination. It would be used by YEG outbound pax aswell and possibly for connections onward.

Could be a good fit for YEG with 2-3 flights per week.

We see this airline frequently in CUN with several flights per week from FRA and MUC. However it will be interesting to see if the service remains in 2014 as we expect Lufthansa to add CUN from FRA joining the growing list of scheduled European airlines adding CUN in recent times.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2013, 5:19 PM
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Time to get Jasper/VIA involved...
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2013, 7:04 PM
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JSDF (Japan self defense force) 747-400 due into YEG tonight at 2045.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2013, 10:32 PM
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New Live Cam! Thanks EIA
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2013, 4:53 AM
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Just took a peek, facing runway 02/20 and the gates of the north terminal.

Also note that United is flying EWR-YEG daily for the next bit, First Saturday flight operated yesterday and I notice according to flightradar24 they have been using a mix of 319 and 320. "someone" reported the upgauge to daily frequency was cancelled but infact it has not been...

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Just took a peek, facing runway 02/20 and the gates of the north terminal.

Also note that United is flying EWR-YEG daily for the next bit, First Saturday flight operated yesterday and I notice according to flightradar24 they have been using a mix of 319 and 320. "someone" reported the upgauge to daily frequency was cancelled but infact it has not been...
The YEG-EWR is in fact daily except Sunday effective this week. Saturday flights have existed since the route commenced in May. The last Sunday flight operated yesterday.
     
     
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Anyone know what the loads have been like?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 2:16 PM
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Not entirely sure, however UA810 YEG-EWR has 85 seats booked for July 3/13 at this point.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 2:23 PM
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I am assuming if they are using bigger metal they are anticipating bigger loads?
     
     
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All very good signs indeed! Cautiously optimistic that this much needed service remains viable on a long-term basis...
     
     
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All very good signs indeed! Cautiously optimistic that this much needed service remains viable on a long-term basis...
I have done EWR-YEG 4 times so far. I've seen loads anywhere between 70% to 100%. And I have heard that some flights were merely 50%.

Even if we get a 65% load factor for now, it should be ok as this is a new route. It takes time to build. There were times when the YEG- IAH flight was running around 65% when it first launched with CO. So why the panic.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2013, 2:38 AM
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UA810 YEG-EWR July 3/13 85 seats occupied in all classes. Airbus A319

AC584 YYC-EWR July 3/13 68 seats occupied in all classes. EMB-190

No idea about WS loads from YYC as they also operate YYC-EWR.

But I would say thats decent in comparison to the AC flight.

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Looks like the Harrah's casino charters are year round now. The flights operate twice per month operated by Republic EMB-190's. Routing YEG-IFP and on some occasions YEG-YYC-IFP. Looks like twice per month upto Dec then a increase to once per week for the winter. Diddo in YYC aswell.
     
     
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Looks like the Harrah's casino charters are year round now. The flights operate twice per month operated by Republic EMB-190's. Routing YEG-IFP and on some occasions YEG-YYC-IFP. Looks like twice per month upto Dec then a increase to once per week for the winter.
http://www.totalrewards.com/totalrewardsair/tr-air-laughlin.html
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2013, 6:28 PM
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In addition I see the 739 and 738 make appearences again on YEG-IAH coming up... Funny they had scheduled the 73G on the route a while back but its been 319's and 320's.
     
     
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Looks like AC is making more moves in Western Canada to off set Encore... got to love competition:

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