YEG - Edmonton Int Airport - Page 416

CanadianCentaur · #**8301** Posted **Jun 7, 2013, 8:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by BLACK STAR

Ok Mr.....How do u know all this from Mexico lol.

Isn't it something called the Internet?

Bigtime · #**8302** Posted **Jun 7, 2013, 12:45 PM**

tuffyy is king of the avgeeks, or is that John Ostrower?

Black Star · #**8303** Posted **Jun 7, 2013, 2:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by CanadianCentaur

Isn't it something called the Internet?

Nope....Im Purdy sure hes a spy

dansk · #**8304** Posted **Jun 7, 2013, 5:50 PM**

FYI there are flights on the new n/s to New York going to $478 today in July.

EdmTrekker · #**8305** Posted **Jun 7, 2013, 9:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by dansk

FYI there are flights on the new n/s to New York going to $478 today in July.

That is a great price - the lowest we have seen.

YegFan · #**8306** Posted **Jun 7, 2013, 9:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

That is a great price - the lowest we have seen.

We booked one way YEG-EWR for $247 in July. Very good price! Cheaper than going to Vancouver!!!

tuffyy · #**8307** Posted **Jun 9, 2013, 2:12 AM**

Apparently there is a mess of Military goodness at YEG right now. 2x KDC-10's and a few C-130's hanging out for the weekend before heading to Cold Lake to participate in phase 2 of MapleFlag. Pictures would be great!

cyeg66 · #**8308** Posted **Jun 9, 2013, 12:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by tuffyy

Apparently there is a mess of Military goodness at YEG right now. 2x KDC-10's and a few C-130's hanging out for the weekend before heading to Cold Lake to participate in phase 2 of MapleFlag. Pictures would be great!

Yup, just saw them. Already the DC-10 looks pretty muscular by design, the KC-10's look positively brutish in their battleship grey pain schemes.

tuffyy · #**8309** Posted **Jun 11, 2013, 11:52 PM**

Air Canada investors report is out and it seems to indicate nothing new for YEG leading upto 2015. The only likely change being the 787 to LHR.

Calgary looks poised to get a new flight to Beijing once the 787's are added.

Again for those hoping AC would step up to add more Europe from YEG chances are no...

YegFan · #**8310** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 12:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by tuffyy

Air Canada investors report is out and it seems to indicate nothing new for YEG leading upto 2015. The only likely change being the 787 to LHR.

Calgary looks poised to get a new flight to Beijing once the 787's are added.

Again for those hoping AC would step up to add more Europe from YEG chances are no...

I saw the ppt. But every year, AC comes up with a different list of potential future destinations....I remember a few years ago, they had even more destinations out of YYZ and YVR.

YYC had eclipsed YEG many moons ago. And I think people here in YEG are realistic of the fact that AC is not going to expand service anytime soon.

And to be honest with you...who cares what YYC gets!!!!

Bigtime · #**8311** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 12:59 AM**

Well with that outlook you should make sure to support Alberta first and utilize the YYC-Asia flights.

Or are you a dirty Canucks supporter?

itom 987 · #**8312** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 1:01 AM**

I'm a dirty Canuck supporter.

Bigtime · #**8313** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 1:12 AM**

Here is Encore's first Q400 arriving in YYC this afternoon, only a matter of time until you see them in YEG.

WestJet Encore DH8D by BigtimeYYC, on Flickr

cyeg66 · #**8314** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 2:25 PM**

^Speaking of Encore, it's official that these new arms for ACA and WJA will be called "Rouge" and "Encore" for radiotelephony purposes. I've no qualms with Rouge and its associated ROU ident on the radar. I DO, however, have a problem with Encore and its WJE ident on the radar. When we're knee deep in airplanes going every which way for whatever reason, you appreciate when things are as neat and tidy as possible, given the circumstances. What we won't appreciate is all the times we'll accidentally call Westjet "Encore" and vice-versa due to the minimal difference between WJE and WJA on the scope. I'm sorta hoping they have the right sense to keep the Westjet flight numbers limited to three digits and perhaps only use 4-digit ID's for Encore flights. At least it would make a small difference. Still, was ENC or something like that unavailable? Good grief.

Rocket252 · #**8315** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 2:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by tuffyy

Air Canada investors report is out and it seems to indicate nothing new for YEG leading upto 2015. The only likely change being the 787 to LHR.

Calgary looks poised to get a new flight to Beijing once the 787's are added.

Again for those hoping AC would step up to add more Europe from YEG chances are no...

So we can all see Air Canada's vision for the next few years and for YEG it is bascially nothing. I do not believe we were mentioned at all in the presentation.

We do see nuggets that are thrown out to the nonhubs such as LHR to YEG and FRA to YOW so I still have hope that we will someday land another European route.

My question is what will be required for us to land that FRA flight - passenger loads /freight volumes/metal/population size/perceived competition from another source?

My personal opinion is nothing will happen untill AC is pushed by competition.

YegFan · #**8316** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

So we can all see Air Canada's vision for the next few years and for YEG it is bascially nothing. I do not believe we were mentioned at all in the presentation.

We do see nuggets that are thrown out to the nonhubs such as LHR to YEG and FRA to YOW so I still have hope that we will someday land another European route.

My question is what will be required for us to land that FRA flight - passenger loads /freight volumes/metal/population size/perceived competition from another source?

My personal opinion is nothing will happen untill AC is pushed by competition.

AC will never be pushed by competition. AC still maintains a leadership role in almost all categories: domestic, US and Int'l. And they will for a very long time.

But that aside, from a YEG perspective, look how United has been quite successful in the Edmonton market. The question is how can you emulate this success story.

It's just too tiring to keep debating the same issues regarding AC's presence in Edmonton.

So, YEG should look for new partners that are willing to be true partners and the rest will take care of itself. Just look at the successful story of Baltimore/Washington Int'l Airport (BWI). It used to be a major airport for US Airways, but it kept getting downgraded until management recognized realized that they need a new partner. So they worked with Southwest. And now BWI is the largest station for Southwest on the East coast.

My only hope is for the EIA management team to be actively seeking new partners like United that are willing to give us a chance and stop calling on AC.

tuffyy · #**8317** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 3:28 PM**

EIA stated in last report it was planning to land another European city before the end of 2014. Obviously its not going to be courtesy of AC.

YEG's numbers continue to grow, LHR is full (I just checked todays flight and there are 3 empty seats). So obviuosly there is room for more growth but being so close to the AC Calgary hub Im sure has EIA shopping elsewhere.

International numbers still grew last month while YYC's plummeted. So they do have a handy tool to sell the city to "another" airline.

My bet is still that YEG will land a foreign airline to Europe long before AC "considers" anything.

Bigtime · #**8318** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 3:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by cyeg66

^Speaking of Encore, it's official that these new arms for ACA and WJA will be called "Rouge" and "Encore" for radiotelephony purposes. I've no qualms with Rouge and its associated ROU ident on the radar. I DO, however, have a problem with Encore and its WJE ident on the radar. When we're knee deep in airplanes going every which way for whatever reason, you appreciate when things are as neat and tidy as possible, given the circumstances. What we won't appreciate is all the times we'll accidentally call Westjet "Encore" and vice-versa due to the minimal difference between WJE and WJA on the scope. I'm sorta hoping they have the right sense to keep the Westjet flight numbers limited to three digits and perhaps only use 4-digit ID's for Encore flights. At least it would make a small difference. Still, was ENC or something like that unavailable? Good grief.

Funny enough this already happened yesterday when they arrived in YYC. I think once or twice the pilot of "Encore 8970" started saying "WestJet 8970". Or arrivals/tower said "WestJet Encore" instead of just "Encore".

Like you guys didn't have enough to do with all the airspace changes coming your way in Alberta.

MalcolmTucker · #**8319** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 3:37 PM**

With new interiors and metal, should see further increases in yields even with weak business class demand. Might not make for the most comfortable flight, but w/e.

sdimedru · #**8320** Posted **Jun 12, 2013, 3:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by itom 987

I'm a dirty Canuck supporter.

x2, everyday of the week.