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Old Posted Oct 25, 2012, 10:35 PM
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2012, 10:49 PM
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Supply and demand.
Trust me, I understand the principle and everything. Doesn't make it any less infuriating when Aeroplan jumps from 15,000 points to 58,000+ points. When trying to book in August.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 12:09 AM
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This isn't YEG specific, but it's absolutely criminal the amount that flight prices get jacked around Christmas. More specifically even, how many Aeroplan points are needed.
Its somewhat a factor of supply and demand. Its also a factor of increased costs as airlines do not shut down for Christmas and incur significant increase in staffing expense (additional staff plus overtime for operating during Christmas and Boxing day). Finally there are increase financial risk as its almost certain there will be a weather event somewhere in the country. Good years there is no weather in the major centres, bad years have YYZ plus one of the next 7 largest markets (YEG, YYC, YVR, YOW, YUL, YHZ and the maritimes, YWG/YXE/YQR).

On the revenue side, because there is deep reduction in full price economy and business class travel, lowest price economy fares must increase to compensate.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 2:34 PM
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Airport manager optimistic about more WestJet flights

October 25, 2012

Kamloops’ airport manager is “heartened” after making a pitch Thursday to WestJet executives in Edmonton for more flights out of Kamloops — one to Edmonton and one to Vancouver.

There are a number of people already routing to Edmonton via the Kamloops to Calgary flight, said Fred Legace.
http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/20121...er-optimistic-about-more-westjet-flights
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 3:07 PM
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He estimates between 35,000 to 40,000 people a year would use the route.
I hope they/we get it, that's a nice chunk of people coming to Edmonton and/or connecting. Hopefully a few more will be added too, Encore will be good for YEG
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 3:14 PM
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^I'd probably use that route as Kamloops is fairly convenient to our cabin near 100 mile. Just need to figure out how to get from the airport to the cottage, and then we've got an old 4runner up there we can use to bomb around in.

Sure beats a 9 hour drive... I'd do anything to avoid having to drive from Edmonton to Robson.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 3:33 PM
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I hope they/we get it, that's a nice chunk of people coming to Edmonton and/or connecting. Hopefully a few more will be added too, Encore will be good for YEG
35k-40k pax equals about 100-115 pax per day, which is the overall load factor on YKA-YYC. I suspect the kamloops editor shrunk the quote to the point where it doesn't make sense (the pax numbers are comingled with discussion on YEG-YKA route and confuses the reader to thinking that YKA-YEG would be 35k pax per annum.

At 35k pax per annum this suggests WS Encore would be a good double daily route YYC-YKA, but I doubt they would do YEG-YKA anytime soon (there are bigger fish to fry for service in first 2 years of Encore).
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 4:02 PM
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Trust me, I understand the principle and everything. Doesn't make it any less infuriating when Aeroplan jumps from 15,000 points to 58,000+ points. When trying to book in August.
I'm guesing what you're seeing is that there are no true Aeroplan seats left, but the # of points you're seeing equates to the actual purchase of a ticket.

That's why I've seen aeroplan flights to Europe costing several hundred thousand, if not over a million aeroplan points. Technically, it means there's no aeroplan seats left, but aeroplan will be happy to help you buy a ticket at full retail. It's damn confusing.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 4:21 PM
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Cool FedEx Boeing 777F at YEG this morning.


https://twitter.com/LeighJack34/status/262721207001030656/photo/1
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 4:26 PM
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Neato - Special delivery? I thoroughly enjoyed flying on this to and fro Narita.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 4:39 PM
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Had the chance to stroll your airport expansion yesterday. It looks fantastic. Bright, energetic, professional, not provincial in any way. For an out of town business person, I'm pretty sure they'd be impressed.

I was a bit surprised by the length of the single-loaded corridor, though. Is it the intention to eventually make it double-loaded?

Now just need to figure out the travesty of the drive to downtown Edmonton. Can there possibly be any more car dealerships, RV lots, pipe yards and other derelict looking operations that could be added? Please say no, and don't tell me it's just the nature of the area and other cities aren't always pretty either. That's no excuse. That's just not wanting to try harder.

Anyhow, don't want to end on a down note. The expansion looks incredible. Hat's off!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 4:53 PM
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Cool FedEx Boeing 777F at YEG this morning.


https://twitter.com/LeighJack34/status/262721207001030656/photo/1
Interesting, I wonder if it was a diversion? Usually FedEx has this bird flying non-stop from Shanghai to Memphis.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 5:38 PM
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 6:43 PM
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It too off for De Gaulle at around 1 am. No idea what it was carrying. I asked Edmonton terminal controller to ask the pilot but he felt it wasn't his business. Wimp. 😫
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 6:46 PM
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Had the chance to stroll your airport expansion yesterday. It looks fantastic. Bright, energetic, professional, not provincial in any way. For an out of town business person, I'm pretty sure they'd be impressed......Anyhow, don't want to end on a down note. The expansion looks incredible. Hat's off!
We locals think it is top tier for sure. And there are more changes at EIA to come as North Terminal gets renovated and other "pieces" of long range development plan get going. As to development on the QE2 highway, you can expect to see mega retail on West side in the nearer future. That said, the industrial development you see will be augmented with Port Alberta on the west side adjacent and part of the EIA/ Capital Region growth strategy, which is gaining legs...with a major overpass, and some preliminary work for a secondary Edmonton ring road. Suffice to say the QE2 will look much different as it gets fit-out over the next 10 years.
     
     
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Trust me, I understand the principle and everything. Doesn't make it any less infuriating when Aeroplan jumps from 15,000 points to 58,000+ points. When trying to book in August.
Aeroplan, in my opinion, is slowly becoming less and less a benefit for those who fly Air Canada and who may maintain an aeroplan visa card and try to be support Air Canada as a frequent flyer.

I have been a member of Aeroplan since 1989 and have watched while they have slowly whittled away at the benefits associated with this frequent flyer program.

In the early days, there was lots of bonuses and it was relatively easy to book a flight utilizing the minimum required points to fly. Over the years, the introduction of the "Class" and "Classicplus" reward feature has made it very difficult to book a cheap "Classic" flight using 25,000 minimum points to fly in North America.

I have been flying to Miami every year in February for a cruise for about 10 years and I am rarely able to get a decent flight using Aeroplan Classic rewards. While I usually try to get to Miami a couple of days before the ship leaves, I hardly ever can book a reward that gets me in and out of Miami without having to extend my stay and arrive 4 or 5 days before and leave 3 or 4 days after the cruise is over. So there is not much point to book after having to use up extra vacation days and incur extra costs for hotels. Or, there are awful layovers and bad flight times with horrible connections. There are better flights available, however, they are all designated as Classicplus and I really don't desire to use up 70,000 or more miles which is almost 3 times the amount that could be used. Even when I try and book as soon as possible within the 330 day window that they allow a person to book, good flights are very rare.

In addition, Aeroplan charges huge reward redemption service fees compared to other mileage programs. And, Air Canada did not ever remove its fuel surcharge on Aeroplan flights within North America so that is an added expense. A typical flight that I book to Miami using Alaskan points may cost $40 versus $160 on Aeroplan as a result of all these "extra" charges. It is no wonder that as a seperate entity, Aeroplan is a very profitable company...much more profitable than Air Canada itself!!!

If anyone is ever considering to get an airline credit card to accumulate points, I would highly recommend the Alaskan Airlines Mastercard. The Alaskan mastercard annual fee is only $75 and versus $120 for the visa card issued for Aeroplan. The card also gives you a companion ticket once a year for $99. So if you usually travel with someone the benefit can be huge. You can use the companion ticket with any airfare, even discounted airfares. You can also use it for anyone. So, if you have family or friends that are travelling you can pass it along. The only downside is that you need to travel to Seattle to make onward connections. One added bonus with Alaskan is that you actually can get decent flights to hot spots like Hawaii and Mexico through Seattle. Compared to trying to book a flight on Aeroplan to Puerto Vallarta, for example, Aeroplan almost always tries to route you through Toronto and there is never any availability.

I use both the Alaskan and Aeroplan flight reward programs but I am seriously considering switching all my Canadian related travel business to Westjet now that they have a points program and a rewards credit card.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 6:56 PM
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Had the chance to stroll your airport expansion yesterday. It looks fantastic. Bright, energetic, professional, not provincial in any way. For an out of town business person, I'm pretty sure they'd be impressed.

I was a bit surprised by the length of the single-loaded corridor, though. Is it the intention to eventually make it double-loaded?

Now just need to figure out the travesty of the drive to downtown Edmonton. Can there possibly be any more car dealerships, RV lots, pipe yards and other derelict looking operations that could be added? Please say no, and don't tell me it's just the nature of the area and other cities aren't always pretty either. That's no excuse. That's just not wanting to try harder.

Anyhow, don't want to end on a down note. The expansion looks incredible. Hat's off!
I could nary agree with you more. The airport looks waaaaaay better; the dreaded Gateway Boulevard sights, however, leave a lot to be desired. Maybe a helicopter taxi business from YEG to downtown could fix the issue for visiting businessman. Oh well, I still love the city, warts and all.

---> Btw, I'm kidding about the air taxi, before someone spews their coffee all over their keyboard.
     
     
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QEII to Gateway is a mess, and I don't see anything changing between Edmonton at 40Ave SW where the new overpass is going and the Airport (on the East side). Leduc county does not have any plans on changing the way they do business in Nisku, and until that changes nothing will change in appearance.
     
     
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Aeroplan, in my opinion, is slowly becoming less and less a benefit for those who fly Air Canada and who may maintain an aeroplan visa card and try to be support Air Canada as a frequent flyer.

I have been a member of Aeroplan since 1989 and have watched while they have slowly whittled away at the benefits associated with this frequent flyer program.

In the early days, there was lots of bonuses and it was relatively easy to book a flight utilizing the minimum required points to fly. Over the years, the introduction of the "Class" and "Classicplus" reward feature has made it very difficult to book a cheap "Classic" flight using 25,000 minimum points to fly in North America.

I have been flying to Miami every year in February for a cruise for about 10 years and I am rarely able to get a decent flight using Aeroplan Classic rewards. While I usually try to get to Miami a couple of days before the ship leaves, I hardly ever can book a reward that gets me in and out of Miami without having to extend my stay and arrive 4 or 5 days before and leave 3 or 4 days after the cruise is over. So there is not much point to book after having to use up extra vacation days and incur extra costs for hotels. Or, there are awful layovers and bad flight times with horrible connections. There are better flights available, however, they are all designated as Classicplus and I really don't desire to use up 70,000 or more miles which is almost 3 times the amount that could be used. Even when I try and book as soon as possible within the 330 day window that they allow a person to book, good flights are very rare.

In addition, Aeroplan charges huge reward redemption service fees compared to other mileage programs. And, Air Canada did not ever remove its fuel surcharge on Aeroplan flights within North America so that is an added expense. A typical flight that I book to Miami using Alaskan points may cost $40 versus $160 on Aeroplan as a result of all these "extra" charges. It is no wonder that as a seperate entity, Aeroplan is a very profitable company...much more profitable than Air Canada itself!!!

If anyone is ever considering to get an airline credit card to accumulate points, I would highly recommend the Alaskan Airlines Mastercard. The Alaskan mastercard annual fee is only $75 and versus $120 for the visa card issued for Aeroplan. The card also gives you a companion ticket once a year for $99. So if you usually travel with someone the benefit can be huge. You can use the companion ticket with any airfare, even discounted airfares. You can also use it for anyone. So, if you have family or friends that are travelling you can pass it along. The only downside is that you need to travel to Seattle to make onward connections. One added bonus with Alaskan is that you actually can get decent flights to hot spots like Hawaii and Mexico through Seattle. Compared to trying to book a flight on Aeroplan to Puerto Vallarta, for example, Aeroplan almost always tries to route you through Toronto and there is never any availability.

I use both the Alaskan and Aeroplan flight reward programs but I am seriously considering switching all my Canadian related travel business to Westjet now that they have a points program and a rewards credit card.
You got that right.....Alaska Airlines and it's M/C is the only way to go....3 Free flights a year.....including only 27,000 points each to Miami / Orlando and back......Aeroplan and any other plan can get bent....
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2012, 8:38 PM
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After having an Aeroplan Infinite Visa for years, I've seen less and less benefit as well. I think I might be switching over to WJ's RBC M/C. Decent deal right now. $250 credit free, + 99 dollar companion flight once a year.
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