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No matter how large it gets, you'll never be able to see it all the way from China!
Nor Vancouver, nor Montreal, what's your point? God I love this site, it's the Sun Media of architecture forums.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2012, 4:28 AM
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Nor Vancouver, nor Montreal, what's your point? God I love this site, it's the Sun Media of architecture forums.
You gotta admit it grows on you.

His point is that despite Toronto being Canada's largest city, it's not always the first city that foreigners identify with Canada, akin to Paris in France, London in England, Tokyo in Japan, etc. This is because the population gap between Toronto and the other major cities isn't that big and Toronto only recently (yes, the 1970s is recently) became Canada's Metropolis.

For example here in Mexico it's always Vancouver #1 then Montreal and Toronto tied for #2. Arabs and North Africans will probably identify Montreal first and I'm sure most Caribbeans identify Toronto as #1.

This will change if/as Toronto gets bigger and shines more in the international scene.
     
     
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His point is that despite Toronto being Canada's largest city, it's not always the first city that foreigners identify with Canada, akin to Paris in France, London in England, Tokyo in Japan, etc. This is because the population gap between Toronto and the other major cities isn't that big and Toronto only recently (yes, the 1970s is recently) became Canada's Metropolis.

For example here in Mexico it's always Vancouver #1 then Montreal and Toronto tied for #2. Arabs and North Africans will probably identify Montreal first and I'm sure most Caribbeans identify Toronto as #1.

This will change if/as Toronto gets bigger and shines more in the international scene.
I agree with all of that. Montreal was always the face of Canada in Britain back in the 1970s, but it's definitely Toronto today. In Australia, they not only see Vancouver as the face of Canada, but many think it's the largest city.

I suppose a lot comes down to how educated a person is, but what seems likely is your last statement. 20 years from now, I'd be shocked if Toronto wasn't the face of Canada everywhere. I'd rather Canada remained a polyglot, but the Greater Golden Horseshoe is without a doubt turning into a juggernaut. 8.8 million people.

The GGH isn't considered 1 metropolitan area, but it will increasingly behave like one (similar to how the LA Basin does). The GGH is an urban swath more populated than Sydney and Melbourne put together.
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I agree with all of that. Montreal was always the face of Canada in Britain back in the 1970s, but it's definitely Toronto today. In Australia, they not only see Vancouver as the face of Canada, but many think it's the largest city.

I suppose a lot comes down to how educated a person is, but what seems likely is your last statement. 20 years from now, I'd be shocked if Toronto wasn't the face of Canada everywhere. I'd rather Canada remained a polyglot, but the Greater Golden Horseshoe is without a doubt turning into a juggernaut. 8.8 million people.

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Yeah, this is about right. There are still many non-francophone places (in Europe and elsewhere) where Montreal seems to be holding its own in renown alongside Toronto, but this is fading fast.

I'd say that Montreal will still always hold on to its predominant image in the world's francophone-oriented countries though, much like Geneva does in spite of the fact that Zurich is probably more than twice as large.
     
     
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That's shocking to me. French is mandatory in Nova Scotia up till grade 10. I assumed it was nationwide.
I think you are right. I don't believe you can go through school from Grade 1 to HS graduation in English anywhere in Canada without taking at least a few years of French.
     
     
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Listen, I grew up in Canada and always believed that Sydney was the largest city in Austrialia. Because its all the media attention. Meanwhile the powerhouse city lingers in the background.

Growing up I always thought Rio de Janiero was the largest city in Brazil. Meanwhile the much larger economic powerhouse goes unoticed.

Growing up I always thought Cape Town was the largest city of South Africa. Didn't know the crime-ridden megaopolis in the Witswasserstrand Traansvaal was bigger.

Growing up and until the last week of July 2012, I thought that Damasascus was the largest city in Syria. Didn't realize the economic powerhouse and population centre of the country was on the Turkish border.

Same for Germany, and the same for Italy. Everyone thinks Rome and Berlin are the biggest.
     
     
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Listen, I grew up in Canada and always believed that Sydney was the largest city in Austrialia. Because its all the media attention. Meanwhile the powerhouse city lingers in the background.

Growing up I always thought Rio de Janiero was the largest city in Brazil. Meanwhile the much larger economic powerhouse goes unoticed.

Growing up I always thought Cape Town was the largest city of South Africa. Didn't know the crime-ridden megaopolis in the Witswasserstrand Traansvaal was bigger.

Growing up and until the last week of July 2012, I thought that Damasascus was the largest city in Syria. Didn't realize the economic powerhouse and population centre of the country was on the Turkish border.

Same for Germany, and the same for Italy. Everyone thinks Rome and Berlin are the biggest.
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A lot of the cities you mentioned are the biggest.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2012, 5:18 PM
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Biggest City in Austraila - Melbourne
Biggest City in Germany - Essen (Ruhrland)
Biggest City in SA - Johannesburg
Biggest City in Brazil - San Paulo
Biggest City in Italy - Milano
Biggest City in Syria - Aleppo
     
     
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Melbourne/Sydney is like Montreal/Toronto. Melbourne used to be biggest many decades ago but Sydney has been biggest for awhile now.

As for the Ruhr area, it is the largest combined metropolitan area but not the largest single city. Kind of like How Dallas-Ft. Worth is Texas's largest metro area but Houston is the largest city.
     
     
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Biggest City in Austraila - Melbourne
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