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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 3:47 PM
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I don't have any stats but i would be curious to see what percentage of passengers fly business class from YEG relative to YYC. I would think that YYC has more business passengers and this is one of the many reasons that AC hubs through Calgary. But WS has no business class so should their flight schedule not reflect a 50 / 50 split between Calgary and Edmonton? With that question i would also be curious what percentage of flights WS flies out of Edmonton relative to Calgary. It definitely doesn't seem to be a 50 / 50 split.
Beyond business which does help yields for sure, I think people over look the extra traffic being the gateway for Banff brings far too often when comparing the flights to Calgary and Edmonton. Every little bit helps.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 3:52 PM
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Interesting sidenote, UA is reducing IAH-YYC to 2x daily from 3x daily starting in May. AC still has 4 flights a day I believe.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 4:07 PM
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I think people over look the extra traffic being the gateway for Banff brings far too often when comparing the flights to Calgary and Edmonton. Every little bit helps.
In several airports, I've seen gates for Calgary flights listed as Calgary/Banff. Influence bigger than we appreciate, I'd say.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 4:23 PM
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While Banff is a huge draw the marketing of the flight on a departure screen is not filling the plan more. Its the actual marketing of Banff before people buy the ticket that is important. Jasper needs a good fresh coat of paint. Sure you can keep restrictions on developments strict but for people on holidays need more options in jasper than what is there.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 4:26 PM
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Jasper needs another ski hill or 2.
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Yes it will, I was thinking more along the lines of rooms available per night. Jasper has the extreme of JPL which is amazing to the run of the mill basic hotels that are packed. It would be nice to see the Feds' approve a few more hotels for the city of Jasper of the resort style.
     
     
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^^ Great news. The Jasper BANANAs are worse than the river valley BANANAs.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 5:03 PM
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Jasper really needs another ski hill to be attractive. I know many an Edmontonian who rarely set foot in Jasper, but hit Banff/LL monthly.
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 5:31 PM
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Great news about the Glacier walk, an excellent project that will bring a lot of added value to the park. Heck it will probably be the reason I finally go up and visit!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 6:18 PM
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Beyond business which does help yields for sure, I think people over look the extra traffic being the gateway for Banff brings far too often when comparing the flights to Calgary and Edmonton. Every little bit helps.
I definitely do not disagree with you. It is funny how many times i have mentioned tourism as a factor and then someone says it is busines and cargo that is more important. In terms of the most recent population census, Edmonton Metro and Calgary Metro are equal and this is why i ask why the difference in flights.

The only thing with tourism is that i would put this YYC / YEG discrepancy more to do with international flights (and i don't mean intercontinental) but is WestJet's flights from Palm Springs, Orlando and even Los Angeles to YYC and YEG really based on Banff or Jasper tourism? I wouldn't think so.

As for Jasper, i believe this is a lost cause. The people there want there little town to stay a little town. But i was shocked when i went skiing there recently and saw how many stores (this isn't even restaurants) shut down at 6pm. The place is a ghost town in the evening. The tourists that would / do enjoy Jasper are few and far between and it is quite evident how few out of province tourists Jasper actually attracts.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 6:36 PM
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I'm sure this would change if they had a resort of two approved somewhere around the city. Don't need to change it into Banff, but a little more in that direction would be nice.
     
     
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New development doesn't have to be right in Jasper. I'd like to see their version of Canmore and Kananaskis. Hinton should move to something like that and not just be a mining/forestry town.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 8:32 PM
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If I remember correctly AC summer route adjustments should be announced in 2 weeks.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 9:15 PM
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New development doesn't have to be right in Jasper. I'd like to see their version of Canmore and Kananaskis. Hinton should move to something like that and not just be a mining/forestry town.
Speaking of which, what ever happened to Kananaskis North?
     
     
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Interesting sidenote, UA is reducing IAH-YYC to 2x daily from 3x daily starting in May. AC still has 4 flights a day I believe.
Actually CO/UA remains 3 daily. UA and CO are in the middle of cross fleeting. So CO metal is flying twice daily, while UA is flying 1 daily. If you get this info from the OAG updates on airliners.net, take this info with a grain of salt. It may show a UA route go from 3 daily to 1, but in actual fact, CO may be picking up the 2 as is the case for YYC-IAH. Each airline also updates in different time periods so one change may be reflected this week, while the other the following week.

Also, AC is remaining at 3 daily - no change there.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 10:21 PM
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Ha you're right! Good to see them starting to merge operations.
     
     
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Edmonton International Airport
Passenger Statistics for January 2012

Highlights
¨ Overall 532,549 passengers
¨ Domestic 377,652 passengers
¨ Transborder 103,784 passengers
¨ International 51,113 passengers
¨ Rolling 12 Month 6,319,739 passengers

Growth%
¨ Overall 8.7%
¨ Domestic 8.8%
¨ Transborder 11.0%
¨ International 3.9%
¨ Rolling 12 Month 3.7%
     
     
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Looks good, thanks for the info
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2012, 1:24 AM
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Edmonton International Airport

Passenger Statistics for January 2012



Highlights

¨ Overall 532,549 passengers

¨ Domestic 377,652 passengers

¨ Transborder 103,784 passengers

¨ International 51,113 passengers

¨ Rolling 12 Month 6,319,739 passengers



Growth%

¨ Overall 8.7%

¨ Domestic 8.8%

¨ Transborder 11.0%

¨ International 3.9%

¨ Rolling 12 Month 3.7%
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