Edmonton Construction 11 (November 2011) - Page 28

Jasper and one o nin · #**541** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 9:26 PM**

I heard Manulife 2 AKA AIMCo Tower will be 32 storeys.

Kevin_foster · #**542** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 9:29 PM**

Mandel isn't going to shock us. He said "they" have some exciting news, and he didn't want to steal their limelight.

So whom-ever it is, they'll announce at their will. Could be today, could be never.

CMD UW · #**543** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 9:46 PM**

^Yea, let's not get too — over this 'shocking' announcement....

sdimedru · #**544** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 9:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by sdimedru

If Enbridge consolidated all their offices, how much space would that take up in a new tower? (shwd park, ING, the Tower, Manulife, RBC, wherever else)

just ballparking it.... currently would they take up about 450k sqft of office space?

TimB09 · #**545** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

^Yea, let's not get too — over this 'shocking' announcement....

Well I don't know about — but can we get downright giddy???

Coldrsx · #**546** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 10:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by sdimedru

just ballparking it.... currently would they take up about 450k sqft of office space?

That was my estimation as well... or about the same size as the proposed Melcor tower adjacent to Enbridge...

Coldrsx · #**547** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 10:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jasper and one o nin

I heard Manulife 2 AKA AIMCo Tower will be 32 storeys.

32 storeys
161m

sdimedru · #**548** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

That was my estimation as well... or about the same size as the proposed Melcor tower adjacent to Enbridge...

what I'm reading though is that they need more... does that mean they would take 650k sqft of space total?

Coldrsx · #**549** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:01 PM**

Not sure of their requirements.

Melcor Centre for reference

http://melcor.ca/files/Commercial_Development/Melcor_Centre.pdf

240glt · #**550** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:05 PM**

With their current build outs I believe they will occupy 35 floors of space in various buildings. Not sure on the S.F. But 450 sounds low

I have a hard time seeing Melcor building anything like that unless it is commissioned by a 3rd party. Melcor seems to play in the B class market

Coldrsx · #**551** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:07 PM**

^keep in mind Enbridge and former ING are smaller floor-plates.

s211 · #**552** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^keep in mind Enbridge and former ING are smaller floor-plates.

Which aren't really in keeping with most good-sized resource firms these days, where 20-25K + plates are more desirable. I think that Enbridge's lease in the Enbridge Tower has a ways to go yet, also. (mid-2019?) Would be nice to see them kick something off in Edmonton, though.

Coldrsx · #**553** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:21 PM**

"where 20-25K + plates are more desirable."

Sure, but those are often hard to come by in this marketplace. I'd be curious to know the avg plate here, but have to think for A/AA it is in the 18000 range?

CanadianCentaur · #**554** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

When's Mr. Mandel going to shock us?

January or February.

ue · #**555** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 11:49 PM**

^ Are you speculating or do you actually know?

Atlguy33 · #**556** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 1:23 AM**

Holy —! My first time seeing the Melcor proposal. Nice looking building! How likely is it to be built?

CanadianCentaur · #**557** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 3:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by ue

^ Are you speculating or do you actually know?

Hearsay. At least that's what I'm hearing from C2E.

Coldrsx · #**558** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 3:36 PM**

Well it is that time of the year again. What are the top 5 projects you look forward to be announced or shovel in the ground in 2012?

1. Arena and Entertainment District
2. Manulife 2, er AIMCO Tower?
3. RAM
4. Norquest Expansion
5. Kelly Ramsey redo + hotel

Coldrsx · #**559** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 3:38 PM**

From SDM on C2E

"Beit Horim, a Jewish non-profit organization, received $6 million to create 55 of those spaces in a new facility 15 years in the works, which will be built on the corner of 119th Street and Jasper Avenue, directly east of the Beth Shalom Synagogue.
The organization hopes to break ground on the project by the end of next summer, said acting executive director Lesley Jacobson."

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Albe...term+care+spaces+2014/5883929/story.html

oiler-dude · #**560** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 4:08 PM**

This has gone up on the side of Telus Plaza according to Twitter:

http://ow.ly/i/nWrC