Canadian City Proposals - Page 201

Nouvellecosse · #**4001** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 12:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

That's not a US style architectural feature. If you look carefully, it's playing off the roof of that hotel which is done in 'Canadian Chateau style'. The Royal York Hotel and Chateau Frontenac are other prominent buildings also done in the style. It's a style not found outside of Canada.

Actually, many examples of Châteauesque are found outside Canada. Canadian examples of the style have their own unique flavour, certainly, but let's not get carried away. After all, regional vernaculars exist as variations of many architectural styles.

isaidso · #**4002** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 12:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Actually, many examples of Châteauesque are found outside Canada. Canadian examples of the style have their own unique flavour, certainly, but let's not get carried away. After all, regional vernaculars exist as variations of many architectural styles.

Well that's why there's French Chateau and Canadian Chateau styles. They're different and are considered separate. It's not as if it's a category I've personally made up. A Guide To Canadian Architectural Styles:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=-f2MYzP6...age&q=canadian%20chateau%20style&f=false

Some more:

http://www.mcclelland.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780887765049
http://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=3296

isaidso · #**4003** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 12:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I wasn't referring to the "American style" of architecture. if there even is one ? I was referring to the fact that very few major Canadian modern skyscrapers have pointed roofs. Only Brookfield Place and that one in Montreal come to mind. There's one in almost every major american city.

That's more a result of there being a larger number of big US cities than anything else. Canada has 3 big cities and 2 of them have big buildings with this feature. I bet Vancouver has examples as well. There are examples all over Canada, but they're small buildings as they're in small cities.

Vertigo3000 · #**4004** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 1:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

That's more a result of there being a larger number of big US cities than anything else. Canada has 3 big cities and 2 of them have big buildings with this feature. I bet Vancouver has examples as well. There are examples all over Canada, but they're small buildings as they're in small cities.

Canada has more than three big cities, they're just not sprawling metropolises

armorand93 · #**4005** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 1:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vertigo3000

Canada has more than three big cities, they're just not sprawling metropolises

Hotel Fort Garry has a pointed roof!

Nouvellecosse · #**4006** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Well that's why there's French Chateau and Canadian Chateau styles. They're different and are considered separate. It's not as if it's a category I've personally made up. A Guide To Canadian Architectural Styles:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=-f2MYzP6...age&q=canadian%20chateau%20style&f=false

Some more:

http://www.mcclelland.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780887765049
http://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=3296

French Chateau style is of course separate from the newer revival style Châteauesque which has examples in other parts of the world. The reason that the sources you posted only mention Canadian examples is because those publications are about architecture styles found in Canada, not about architecture in general or that one architectural style specifically.

Again, there are various examples of this revival style compiled on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chateausque

Chadillaccc · #**4007** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

That's more a result of there being a larger number of big US cities than anything else. Canada has 3 big cities and 2 of them have big buildings with this feature. I bet Vancouver has examples as well. There are examples all over Canada, but they're small buildings as they're in small cities.

Atlanta is larger than Montreal and its tallest building is a pointy topped 288 meter beast!

Detroit's tallest outside of the renaissance center is pointy topped, obviously New York has pointy tops, Seattle as well, Minneapolis too. a few more as well.

and I'm not talking about "small buildings in small cities"... all of these buildings are over 150 meters in cities of over 3 million.

Nouvellecosse · #**4008** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 7:59 PM**

But then there are also cities like Houston, LA, Denver, Miami and Boston which are dominated by buildings with either flat roofs or fanciful pomo crowns rather than points or spires. So it really seems like more of an individual city thing.

kool maudit · #**4009** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 8:19 PM**

i have been to atlanta. i live in montreal. as a city, as an urban phenomenon, it is much smaller than montreal.

as a patch of settled land it may be larger, but who cares about that?

Chadillaccc · #**4010** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 8:29 PM**

I just meant by population haha.

Rico Rommheim · #**4011** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Procura proposal for Edmonton, looks to be 32-33 storeys on the edge of the top of bank.

(http://www.procura.ca/elements/images/galleries/edmonton/commercial/proposed-hotel-tower/002.jpg)

Wow, I thought manulife 2 was a sign that the days of pug-fugly architecture in Edmonton were over. I guess not.

Coldrsx · #**4012** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 8:57 PM**

A bunch of proposals and currently u/c from Procura for Edmonton.

Dylan Leblanc · #**4013** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 9:20 PM**

The office building shown here won't be built. It was put forth as a proposal on land which Procura owned which is being used as a public square to put pressure on the city to buy the land and allow Procura to build an office tower elsewhere, I think.

Coldrsx · #**4014** Posted **Nov 30, 2011, 9:32 PM**

^I would concur in full with that and fully expect a land swap, but they do own it.

Ramako · #**4015** Posted **Dec 1, 2011, 2:55 AM**

Here's a better rendering of the 34 storey Gansevoort Hotel & Condo proposal in (technically adjacent to) Toronto's Distillery District:

The image is from this article: http://www.torontostandard.com/the-sprawl/what-is-the-one-thing-the-distillery-district-needs

The base is a heritage warehouse and the architect is Saucier + Perrotte.

Travis007 · #**4016** Posted **Dec 1, 2011, 4:21 AM**

Now that's hot!

Very sharp, looks highly promising. Just checked out Saucier + Perrotte's portfolio, and very impressive designs. The Distillery District is going to look incredible when all these towers are complete.

koops65 · #**4017** Posted **Dec 1, 2011, 4:21 AM**

Brutal... not a fan of that.

trueviking · #**4018** Posted **Dec 1, 2011, 5:18 AM**

love it...love s&p.

toronto is throwing in a lot of quality with the volume of new buildings.....great to see.

isaidso · #**4019** Posted **Dec 1, 2011, 8:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Atlanta is larger than Montreal and its tallest building is a pointy topped 288 meter beast!

Detroit's tallest outside of the renaissance center is pointy topped, obviously New York has pointy tops, Seattle as well, Minneapolis too. a few more as well.

and I'm not talking about "small buildings in small cities"... all of these buildings are over 150 meters in cities of over 3 million.

All you've shown is that big cities build large versions of that style, not that it's a US style. That's like saying that a super tall is an Emirate style because they have the biggest ones.

Alrighty then, all we need to do is build larger versions of everything, and everything can then be re-classified as Canadian style.

Chadillaccc · #**4020** Posted **Dec 2, 2011, 2:52 AM**

Dude... all I said was I like pointy topped sky scrapers. You don't need to be a douchebag.