YEG - Edmonton Int Airport

[YYCguys]

With so much $$$ floating around Edmonton, it seems the hotels in the city don't NEED our business, so we're stuck taking what we can get, namely a couple of "hotels" in Nisku.

[mode]

Originally Posted by hilman

At least Air Canada's got our back with their impressive list of weekly flights of 1 to Cancun, 1 to Cozumel and 0 to the US lol (they cancelled the Montego Bay flight). Westjet is suppose to be offering the twice weekly nonstop to Maui for a longer period this winter as well.

Hmm! I cannot see the Cozumel service on the Air Canada Vacations schedule, nor can I find it in their booking website. Perhaps they are reducing Edmonton flights to the Wednesday Cancun flight only (15 weeks in total for the winter). I may be wrong.

On the other hand, I believe the 6 flights a week this summer to Mexico from Transat(Canjet), Sunwing, and Westjet are more than we have had in previous summers.

[hilman]

Originally Posted by LO 044

Air Canada Winter 2011/12 Sun Destinations Highlights: 3 New Destinations and 7New Routes

Edmonton – Cancun Increase from 1 weekly (Day 2) to 2 weekly (Day 23). Boeing 767 operating

Edmonton – Cozumel NEW 1 weekly service eff 22DEC11
AC1758 YEG0815 – 1450CZM 763 4
AC1759 CZM1605 – 2115YEG 763 4

Edmonton - Montego Bay Cancelled

From Airlineroute.net: http://airlineroute.net/2011/06/08/ac-sun-w11/

Mode, here is where the info is from on CZM.

[mode]

Originally Posted by hilman

Mode, here is where the info is from on CZM.

Yes, thanks hilman. I had seen that in the original post. Today, however, I cannot see any trace of it on the Air Canada Vacations site here:

http://www.aircanadavacations.com/home.do?originSearch=-1

nor on their published schedule here:

http://www.aircanadavacations.com/media/PDF/FlightSchedule_EN.pdf

It surely surprises no one that they can announce new services with much fanfare and delete them silently.

I suppose there is still time for further changes to the winter schedule.

[hilman]

I hope that the flight is still on, but you never know with AC . Maybe fire an email to AC?

[Airboy]

The new tower BB photo

[Johnny Aussie]

^^^^^
Yeah looks like the CZM flight is gone. It definitely was showing up in OAG, Amadeus and AC websites prior to last week.

I think this summer there are only 5 weekly YEG - Mexico (not 6 - correct me if I am wrong). Last summer there were only 4.

Canjet - 1 weekly to CUN and 1 weekly to PVR
Westjet - 1 weekly to CUN and 1 weekly to PVR
Sunwing - 1 weekly to CUN

[mode]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

^^^^^
Yeah looks like the CZM flight is gone. It definitely was showing up in OAG, Amadeus and AC websites prior to last week.

I think this summer there are only 5 weekly YEG - Mexico (not 6 - correct me if I am wrong). Last summer there were only 4.

Canjet - 1 weekly to CUN and 1 weekly to PVR
Westjet - 1 weekly to CUN and 1 weekly to PVR
Sunwing - 1 weekly to CUN

I believe it is five or six depending on the month. During July and August the Transat/Nolitours bunch (Canjet) have a second Cancun service listed.

The Puerto Vallarta and the second Cancun service from the Transat mob was only put on at the last minute in, I think, June. I wish they would not do this, since there was no time to sell the packages when they were only opened for sale the week before the first flight. This gives the operators a ready excuse to cancel it next time because of "poor response".

Just my opinion.

[Jasper and one o nin]

Edmonton International Airport

Passenger Statistics for July 2011



Highlights

¨ Overall 567,811 passengers (3,629,885 Year to Date)

¨ Domestic 467,320 passengers (2,742,053 Year to Date)

¨ Transborder 81,027 passengers (638,853 Year to Date)

¨ International 19,464 passengers (248,979 Year to Date)

¨ Rolling 12 Month 6,163,353



Growth%

¨ Overall 3.9% (2.1% Year to Date)

¨ Domestic 3.3% (1.2% Year to Date)

¨ Transborder 7.6% (4.9% Year to Date)

¨ International 5.4% (4.7% Year to Date)

[hilman]

The trans and international numbers are looking good.

[cyeg66]

Where a few years ago, I would've scoffed at 4%, I'll gladly take that now. I gotta say I'm sort of impressed given there's been almost no flight additions in the last couple of years. Keep 'er goin' EIA, and look on the bright side, you could be doing as poorly as YYC

[Rocket252]

What are the Calgary Stats?

Are they not good?

[hilman]

Maybe we are finally stopping the habit

[Coldrsx]

Massive numbers!

[Shodan]

Stats don't tell the story - airport
Federal figures show passenger growth has virtually stalled at Edmonton International

Dave Cooper
Edmonton Journal

Tuesday, August 16, 2011

While passenger growth at Edmonton International Airport appears to have stalled, the reality is a much rosier picture, officials say.

Statistics Canada's latest survey of Canada's top 50 airports found that Edmonton's airport passenger tally grew by barely 10,000 last year to almost six million. Airport traffic at Calgary grew at a faster clip, increasing by 135,000 to almost 11.8 million passengers during the same period.

However, the Edmonton airport's own figures show that almost 6.1 million passengers arrived and departed. The airport's tally is higher partly because Statistics Canada does not count "non-revenue" passengers such as flight crews and infants...

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[Rocket252]

With EIA gettting hammered in the press for its dismal numbers and the continued idiotic actions of Envision Edmonton ongoing I noticed that Air Transat has introduced more service to Calgary. Correct me if I am wrong but this may be new service.

Calgary – London Gatwick Winter service operates twice weekly with airTransat A330 aircraft
Calgary – Manchester UK Winter service operates from 13DEC11, twice weekly airTransat A330 aircraft

[MalcolmTucker]

I don't think they operated in the winter from Calgary before.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Shodan

Stats don't tell the story - airport
Federal figures show passenger growth has virtually stalled at Edmonton International

Dave Cooper
Edmonton Journal

Tuesday, August 16, 2011

While passenger growth at Edmonton International Airport appears to have stalled, the reality is a much rosier picture, officials say.

Statistics Canada's latest survey of Canada's top 50 airports found that Edmonton's airport passenger tally grew by barely 10,000 last year to almost six million. Airport traffic at Calgary grew at a faster clip, increasing by 135,000 to almost 11.8 million passengers during the same period.

However, the Edmonton airport's own figures show that almost 6.1 million passengers arrived and departed. The airport's tally is higher partly because Statistics Canada does not count "non-revenue" passengers such as flight crews and infants...

[email protected]
© Edmonton Journal 2011

Copyright © 2011 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc.. All rights reserved.
CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc.. All rights reserved.

http://www2.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=76746bed-fb79-437d-a63b-00f14d4952f1&sponsor=

But since Calgary and Edmonton apparently count using different models (doesn't Calgary count connecting flyers twice, and Edmonton only once?), which version does Statscan use?

[Rogie]

Originally Posted by s211

But since Calgary and Edmonton apparently count using different models (doesn't Calgary count connecting flyers twice, and Edmonton only once?), which version does Statscan use?

Here's a link to Statcan's methodology.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/51-203-x/2010000/technote-notetech2-eng.htm

They further elaborate on another page:

The data presented in this publication are broken down into three categories: domestic, transborder and other international. The data are assigned to the categories for each flight segment according to the next stop (for departures) and the last stop (for arrivals) of the aircraft. For example, consider a flight with a routing of Vancouver-Edmonton-Amsterdam. The departure of the flight from Vancouver would be considered domestic, as would the arrival at Edmonton. The departure of the flight from Edmonton for Amsterdam would be considered as other international since the next stop of the aircraft is a foreign point.

[Rocket252]

In reality we know roughly that Calgary's numbers are twice as large as ours. And with announcements like this morning by Air Transat the gap will only get wider.

But what really bugs me is that the people most complaining about Edmonton's stagnant growth and subsequent Calgary growth are probably the first ones who fly through Calgary.