The US Census Bureau thread - Page 44

ChiSoxRox · #**861** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by urbanactivist

Wow so it basically pulled a "Houston" (many other cities have done this of course). Former places that were once independent towns or suburbs, have now been absorbed into unincorporated places. It's so dumb to do that IMO.

Yeah, I don't like it either, although part of me wishes there was a way to combine Cook County and Chicago so that it'd have second place easily.

Also, sorry UA but I already posted the state releases on the previous page. I'll piece together the 100k+ municipality list now.

BG918 · #**862** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 8:48 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by urbanactivist

Wow so it basically pulled a "Houston" (many other cities have done this of course). Former places that were once independent towns or suburbs, have now been absorbed into unincorporated places. It's so dumb to do that IMO.

I'm surprised the suburban communities allowed it to happen and not remain independent towns.

Thundertubs · #**863** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dralcoffin

I'll piece together the 100k+ municipality list now.

Thanks for doing those lists.

It would be cool to see the list of 100k+ cities grouped by state, if you were so inclined.

ChiSoxRox · #**864** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:13 PM**

Los Angeles city, CA: 3,792,621 (+97,801)
Chicago city, IL: 2,695,598 (-200,418)
Houston city, TX: 2,099,451 (+145,820)
Philadelphia city, PA: 1,526,006 (+8,456)
Phoenix city, AZ: 1,445,632 (+124,587)
San Antonio city, TX: 1,327,407 (+182,761)
San Diego city, CA: 1,307,402 (+84,002)
Dallas city, TX: 1,197,816 (+9,236)
San Jose city, CA: 945,942 (+50,999)
Indianapolis city, IN: 829,718 (+37,792)
Jacksonville city, FL: 821,784 (+86,167)
San Francisco city, CA: 805,235 (+28,502)
Austin city, TX: 790,390 (+133,828)
Columbus city, OH: 787,033 (+75,563)
Fort Worth city, TX: 741,206 (+206,512)
Louisville city, KY: 741,096 (+484,865)
Charlotte city, NC: 731,424 (+190,596)
El Paso city, TX: 649,121 (+85,459)
Memphis city, TN: 646,889 (-3,211)
Nashville city, TN: 626,681 (+56,790)
Baltimore city, MD: 620,961 (-30,193)
Seattle city, WA: 608,660 (+45,286)
Washington D.C.: 601,723 (+29,664)
Denver city, CO: 600,158 (+45,522)
Milwaukee city, WI: 594,833 (-2,141)
Portland city, OR: 583,776 (+54,655)
Las Vegas city, NV: 583,756 (+105,322)
Oklahoma City city, OK: 579,999 (+73,867)
Albuquerque city, NM: 545,852 (+97,247)
Tucson city, AZ: 520,116 (+33,417)
Fresno city, CA: 494,665 (+67,013)
Sacramento city, CA: 466,488 (+59,470)
Long Beach city, CA: 462,257 (+735)
Kansas City city, MO: 459,787 (+18,242)
Mesa city, AZ: 439,041 (+42,666)
Virginia Beach city, VA: 437,994 (+12,737)
Atlanta city, GA:: 420,003 (+3,529)
Colorado Springs city, CO: 416,427 (+55,537)
Omaha city, NE: 408,958 (+18,951)
Raleigh city, NC: 403,892 (+127,799)
Miami city, FL: 399,457 (+36,987)
Cleveland city, OH: 396,815 (-81,588)
Tulsa city, OK: 391,906 (-1,143)
Oakland city, CA: 390,724 (-8,760)
Honolulu CDP (incl. East Honolulu) 387,170 (+15,513)
Minneapolis city, MN: 382,578 (-40)
Wichita city, KS: 382,368 (+38,084)
Arlington city, TX: 365,438 (+32,469)
Bakersfield city, CA: 347,483 (+100,426)
New Orleans city, LA: 343,829 (-140,845)
Anaheim city, CA: 336,265 (+8,251)
Tampa city, FL: 335,709 (+32,262)
Aurora city, CO: 325,078 (+48,685)
Santa Ana city, CA: 324,528 (-13,449)
St. Louis city, MO: 319,294 (-28,895)
Pittsburgh city, PA: 305,704 (-28,859)
Corpus Christi city, TX: 305,215 (+27,761)
Riverside city, CA: 303,871 (+48,705)
Cincinnati city, OH: 296,943 (-34,342)
Lexington city, KY: 295,803 (+35,291)
Anchorage city, AK: 291,826 (+31,543)
Stockton city, CA: 291,707 (+47,936)
Toledo city, OH: 287,208 (-26,411)
St. Paul city, MN: 285,068 (-2,083)
Newark city, NJ: 277,140 (+3,594)
Greensboro city, NC: 269,666 (+45,775)
Plano city, TX: 259,841 (+37,811)
Lincoln city, NE: 258,379 (+32,798)
Henderson city, NV: 257,729 (+82,348)
Fort Wayne city, IN: 253,691 (+47,964)
Jersey City city, NJ: 247,597 (+7,542)
St. Petersburg city, FL: 244,769 (-3,463)
Chula Vista city, CA: 243,916 (+70,360)
Norfolk city, VA: 242,803 (+8,400)
Orlando city, FL: 238,300 (+52,349)
Chandler city, AZ: 236,123 (+59,542)
Laredo city, TX: 236,091 (+59,515)
Madison city, WI: 233,209 (+25,155)
Winston-Salem city, NC: 229,617 (+43,841)
Lubbock city, TX: 229,573 (+30,009)
Baton Rouge city, LA: 229,493 (+1,675)
Durham city, NC: 228,330 (+41,295)
Garland city, TX: 226,876 (+11,108)
Glendale city, AZ: 226,721 (+7,909)
Reno city, NV: 225,221 (+44,741)
Hialeah city, FL: 224,669 (-1,750)
Chesapeake city, VA: 222,209 (+23,025)
Scottsdale city, AZ: 217,385 (+14,680)
North Las Vegas city, NV: 216,961 (+101,473)
Irving city, TX: 216,290 (+24,675)
Fremont city, CA: 214,089 (+10,676)
Irvine city, CA: 212,375 (+69,303)
Birmingham city, AL: 212,237 (-30,583)
San Bernardino city, CA: 209,924 (+24,523)
Spokane city, WA: 208,916 (+13,287)
Gilbert city, AZ: 208,453 (+98,756)
Montgomery city, AL: 205,764 (+4,196)
Boise city, ID: 205,671 (+19,884)
Richmond city, VA: 204,214 (+6,424)
Des Moines city, IA: 203,433 (+4,751)
Modesto city, CA: 201,165 (+12,309)
Fayetteville city, NC: 200,564 (+79,549)
Augusta city, GA: 200,549 (+774)
Shreveport city, LA: 199,311 (-834)
Akron city, OH: 199,110 (-17,964)
Tacoma city, WA: 198,397 (+4,841)
Aurora city, IL: 197,899 (+54,909)
Oxnard city, CA: 197,899 (+27,541)
Fontana city, CA: 196,069 (+67,140)
Mobile city, AL: 195,111 (-3,804)
Little Rock city, AR: 193,524 (+10,391)
Moreno Valley city, CA: 193,365 (+50,984)
Glendale city, CA: 191,719 (-3,254)
Amarillo city, TX: 190,695 (+17,068)
Huntington Beach city, CA: 189,992 (+398)
Columbus city, GA: 189,885 (+3,594)
Salt Lake City city, UT: 186,440 (+4,697)
Tallahassee city, FL: 181,376 (+30,752)
Newport News city, VA: 180,719 (+569)
Huntsville city, AL: 180,105 (+21,889)
Knoxville city, TN: 178,874 (+4,984)
Santa Clarita city, CA: 176,320 (+25,232)
Grand Prairie city, TX: 175,396 (+47,969)
Brownsville city, TX: 175,023 (+35,301)
Jackson city, MS: 173,514 (-10,742)
Overland Park city, KS: 173,372 (+24,292)
Garden Grove city, CA: 170,883 (+5,687)
Santa Rosa city, CA: 167,815 (+20,220)
Chattanooga city, TN: 167,674 (+12,120)
Oceanside city, CA: 167,086 (+6,057)
Fort Lauderdale city, FL: 165,521 (+13,124)
Rancho Cucamonga city, CA: 165,269 (+37,526)
Port St. Lucie city, FL: 164,603 (+75,834)
Ontario city, CA: 163,924 (+5,917)
Vancouver city, WA: 161,791 (+18,231)
Tempe city, AZ: 161,719 (+3,094)
Springfield city, MO: 159,498 (+7,918)
Lancaster city, CA: 156,633 (+37,915)
Eugene city, OR: 156,185 (+18,292)
Pembroke Pines city, FL: 154,750 (+17,323)
Salem city, OR: 154,637 (+17,713)
Cape Coral city, FL: 154,305 (+52,019)
Peoria city, AZ: 154,065 (+45,701)
Sioux Falls city, SD: 153,888 (+29,913)
Elk Grove city, CA: 153,015 (+93,031)
Rockford city, IL: 152,871 (+2,756)
Palmdale city, CA: 152,750 (+36,080)
Corona city, CA: 152,374 (+27,378)
Salinas city, CA: 150,441 (-619)
Pomona city, CA: 149,058 (-415)
Pasadena city, TX: 149,043 (+7,369)
Joliet city, IL: 147,433 (+41,212)
Paterson city, NJ: 146,199 (-3,023)
Kansas City city, KS: 145,786 (-1,080)
Torrance city, CA: 145,438 (+7,492)
Bridgeport city, CT: 144,229 (+4,700)
Hayward city, CA: 144,186 (+4,156)
Fort Collins city, CO: 143,986 (+25,334)
Escondido city, CA: 143,911 (+10,352)
Lakewood city, CO: 142,980 (-1,146)
Naperville city, IL: 141,853 (+13,495)
Dayton city, OH: 141,527 (-24,652)
Hollywood city, FL: 140,768 (+1,411)
Sunnyvale city, CA: 140,081 (+8,321)
Alexandria city, VA: 139,966 (+11,683)
Mesquite city, TX: 139,824 (+15,301)
Hampton city, VA: 137,436 (-9,001)
Pasadena city, CA: 137,122 (+3,186)
Orange city, CA: 136,416 (+7,595)
Savannah city, GA: 136,286 (+4,776)
Cary town, NC: 135,234 (+40,698)
Fullerton city, CA: 135,161 (+9,158)
Clarksville city, TN: 132,929 (+29,474)
McKinney city, TX: 131,117 (+76,748)
McAllen city, TX: 129,877 (+23,463)
New Haven city, CT: 129,779 (+6,153)
West Valley City city, UT: 129,480 (+20,584)
Killeen city, TX: 127,921 (+41,010)
Topeka city, KS: 127,473 (+5,096)
Thousand Oaks city, CA: 126,683 (+9,678)
East Los Angeles CDP, CA: 126,496 (+2,213)
Cedar Rapids city, IA: 126,326 (+5,568)
Olathe city, KS: 125,872 (+32,910)
Elizabeth city, NJ: 124,969 (+4,401)
Waco city, TX: 124,805 (+11,079)
Hartford city, CT: 124,775 (+3,197)
Visalia city, CA: 124,442 (+32,877)
Gainesville city, FL: 124,354 (+28,907)
Simi Valley city, CA: 124,237 (+12,886)
Stamford city, CT: 122,643 (+5,560)
Bellevue city, WA: 122,363 (+12,794)
Concord city, CA: 122,067 (+287)
Miramar city, FL: 122,041 (+49,302)
Coral Springs city, FL: 121,096 (+3,547)
Lafayette city, LA: 120,623 (+10,366)
Carrollton city, TX: 119,097 (+9,521)
Roseville city, CA: 118,788 (+38,867)
Thornton city, CO: 118,772 (+36,388)
Beaumont city, TX: 118,296 (+4,430)
Allentown city, PA: 118,032 (11,400)
Surprise city, AZ: 117,517 (+86,669)
Evansville city, IN: 117,429 (-4,153)
Abilene city, TX: 117,063 (+1,133)
Frisco city, TX: 116,989 (+83,275)
Independence city, MO: 116,830 (+3,542)
Athens city, GA: 116,714 (+15,225)
Santa Clara city, CA: 116,468 (+14,107)
Springfield city, IL: 116,250 (+4,796)
Vallejo city, CA: 115,942 (-818)
Victorville city, CA: 115,903 (+51,873)
Peoria city, IL: 115,007 (+2,071)
El Monte city, CA: 113,475 (-2,490)
Denton city, TX: 113,383 (+32,846)
Berkeley city, CA: 112,580 (+9,758)
Provo city, UT: 112,488 (+7,322)
Downey city, CA: 111,772 (+4,449)
Midland city, TX: 111,147 (+16,151)
Norman city, OK: 110,925 (+15,231)
Waterbury city, CT: 110,366 (+3,095)
Costa Mesa city, CA: 109,960 (+1,236)
Inglewood city, CA: 109,673 (-2,907)
Murfreesboro city, TN: 108,755 (+39,939)
Columbia city, MO: 108,500 (+23,969)
Elgin city, IL: 108,188 (+13,701)
Clearwater city, FL: 107,685 (-1,102)
Miami Gardens city, FL: 107,167 (n/a)
Rochester city, MN: 106,769 (+20,963)
Pueblo city, CO: 106,595 (+4,474)
Wilmington city, NC: 106,476 (+30,638)
Arvada city, CO: 106,433 (+4,280)
Ventura city, CA: 106,433 (+5,517)
Westminster city, CO: 106,114 (+5,174)
West Covina city, CA: 106,098 (+1,018)
Gresham city, OR: 105,594 (+15,389)
Fargo city, ND: 105,549 (+14,950)
Norwalk city, CA: 105,549 (+2,251)
Carlsbad city, CA: 105,328 (+27,081)
Fairfield city, CA: 105,321 (+9,143)
Wichita Falls city, TX: 104,553 (+356)
High Point city, NC: 104,371 (+18,532)
Billings city, MT: 104,170 (+14,323)
Green Bay city, WI: 104,057 (+1,744)
West Jordan city, UT: 103,712 (+35,376)
Richmond city, CA: 103,701 (+4,485)
Murrieta city, CA: 103,466 (+59,184)
Burbank city, CA: 103,340 (+3,024)
Palm Bay city, FL: 103,190 (+23,777)
Everett city, WA: 103,019 (+11,531)
Antioch city, CA: 102,372 (+11,840)
Erie city, PA: 101,786 (-1,931)
South Bend city, IN: 101,168 (-6,621)
Daly City city, CA: 101,123 (-2,498)
Centennial city, CO: 100,377 (n/a)
Temecula city, CA: 100,097 (+42,381)

ChiSoxRox · #**865** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Thundertubs

Thanks for doing those lists.

It would be cool to see the list of 100k+ cities grouped by state, if you were so inclined.

I am planning to do that once all states are out next week; I don't really want to spare the time of exploding the list right after adding to it until everything is out. But if you'd like to for any states, feel free.

sabino86 · #**866** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:25 PM**

Atlanta has got to appeal that 420K number.

wwmiv · #**867** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:42 PM**

Los Angeles 12 828 837 +
Chicago 9 461 105 +
Dallas/Forth Worth 6 371 773 +
Philadelphia 5 965 343 +
Houston 5 946 820 +
Miami 5 564 635 +
Atlanta 5 290 078 +
San Francisco 4 335 391 +
Riverside 4 224 851 +
Phoenix 4 192 887 +
Seattle 3 439 809 +
Minneapolis 3 279 833 +
San Diego 3 095 313 +
Tampa 2 783 243 +
St. Louis 2 754 717 +
Baltimore 2 710 489 +
Denver 2 543 482 +
Pittsburgh 2 356 285 -
Portland 2 226 009 +
Sacramento 2 149 127 +
San Antonio 2 136 508 +
Orlando 2 134 411 +
Cincinnati 2 130 151 +
Cleveland 2 077 240 -
Kansas City 2 035 334 +
Las Vegas 1 951 269 +
San Jose 1 836 911 +
Columbus 1 836 536 +
Indianapolis 1 765 241 +
Austin 1 716 289 +
Hampton Roads 1 671 683 +
Nashville 1 589 934 +
Milwaukee 1 555 908 +
Jacksonville 1 345 596 +
Memphis 1 316 100 +
Louisville 1 283 566 +
Richmond 1 258 251 +
Oklahoma City 1 252 987 +
Hartford 1 212 381 +
New Orleans 1 167 764 -
Raleigh 1 130 490 +
Birmingham 1 128 047 +
Salt Lake City 1 124 197 +

wwmiv · #**868** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Thundertubs

Thanks for doing those lists.

Do I get a thanks?

ChiSoxRox · #**869** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:47 PM**

Thank you, wwmiv, for going through and adding up counties into metro areas. In my ideal world, those are the numbers that would be publicized, not city limit figures.

But could you maybe post the percentage change or 2000 numbers so we can see what metro areas are growing faster than others?

wwmiv · #**870** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dralcoffin

Thank you, wwmiv, for going through and adding up counties into metro areas. In my ideal world, those are the numbers that would be publicized, not city limit figures.

But could you maybe post the percentage change or 2000 numbers so we can see what metro areas are growing faster than others?

I'll add that to the list tonight. I'll put both percentage change and numerical change.

ChiSoxRox · #**871** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

I'll add that to the list tonight. I'll put both percentage change and numerical change.

OK, cool. Tomorrow I may have enough time to explode my list by state.

tdawg · #**872** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 10:57 PM**

Yeah, that Atlanta number doesn't make sense. With all of the infill that's occurred in the past decade, and the numerous high-rises intown, it's highly suspect.

KB0679 · #**873** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 11:16 PM**

Not saying the Census figure is correct, but don't forget all of the public housing that got demolished and those residents feeling to the 'burbs (eg, Clayton County). Also, what are the occupancy rates for most of these condo towers? All of them aren't doing well. Still, I have a feeling the city is being seriously undercounted here.

PremierAtlanta · #**874** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 1:56 AM**

As with Chicago and Dallas, I am starting to suspect that there were some low responses in certain communities in Atlanta. When you "fear" sharing your information with the government, these low counts are what happens. The addition of only 3000+ people is quite odd. Even with the total demolition of the housing projects in the City of Atlanta, I would have expected a greater number than 420,000.

I would be curious to see the response rate breakdown of some of these larger cities...Houston as well. I recall the head of the Latino American Association in Atlanta going on radio to beg people to please respond to the census form. Mayor Kasim Reed did as well through several service announcements. I guess those request fell on deaf ears. Now you will have a city with a population larger than 420,000 receiving funding at a lesser rate. I fear that the one's who choose not to answer will be the ones to suffer.

Maybe there will be a challenge.

J. Will · #**875** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 3:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by PremierAtlanta

As with Chicago and Dallas, I am starting to suspect that there were some low responses in certain communities in Atlanta. When you "fear" sharing your information with the government, these low counts are what happens. The addition of only 3000+ people is quite odd. Even with the total demolition of the housing projects in the City of Atlanta, I would have expected a greater number than 420,000.

I would be curious to see the response rate breakdown of some of these larger cities...Houston as well. I recall the head of the Latino American Association in Atlanta going on radio to beg people to please respond to the census form. Mayor Kasim Reed did as well through several service announcements. I guess those request fell on deaf ears. Now you will have a city with a population larger than 420,000 receiving funding at a lesser rate. I fear that the one's who choose not to answer will be the ones to suffer.

Maybe there will be a challenge.

Isn't it the law to return the census form? In Canada it's required that you are counted in the census, and in theory you can go to jail if you don't give your info.

MNMike · #**876** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 4:00 AM**

As some other folks have said, you have to look at the stats by tract to see what is really going on. When i did this for Minneapolis, I found it very encouraging that the downtown population increased by over 30% between 2000 and 2010. That is the case with a lot of these cities that increased less than expected or decreased. That is something at least.

babybackribs2314 · #**877** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 4:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by PremierAtlanta

As with Chicago and Dallas, I am starting to suspect that there were some low responses in certain communities in Atlanta. When you "fear" sharing your information with the government, these low counts are what happens. The addition of only 3000+ people is quite odd. Even with the total demolition of the housing projects in the City of Atlanta, I would have expected a greater number than 420,000.

I would be curious to see the response rate breakdown of some of these larger cities...Houston as well. I recall the head of the Latino American Association in Atlanta going on radio to beg people to please respond to the census form. Mayor Kasim Reed did as well through several service announcements. I guess those request fell on deaf ears. Now you will have a city with a population larger than 420,000 receiving funding at a lesser rate. I fear that the one's who choose not to answer will be the ones to suffer.

Maybe there will be a challenge.

I don't understand how Atlanta, Chicago, and Dallas were undercounted when the counts that have come in closer to expectations--DC, Seattle, and others--are not challenged. Also, the national population as of 2010 was just under 309 million--which was basically on target from projections. It sucks if growth was less than anticipated, but "undercounting" is clearly not the issue as most cities have seemed to show relatively stagnant growth this past decade (and it would be different if it was just Chicago that had bad #s, but it's pretty much across the board). Sour grapes suck, but you gotta deal with it (and don't forget the huge growth in all exurban counties). My guess is that this past decade marked the transition between decline and growth for most cities, and the numbers are indeed accurate.

mhays · #**878** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 4:44 AM**

"Clear" is the last thing it is, even if it really was accurate.

I'm extremely surprised at the Atlanta number, based on estimates and comments on SSP. But aside from that, it's common for a gentrifying place to have a major drop in household sizes. And it's common for SSP assertions about waves of new construction to be overstated.

We have to remember though that the Census is imperfect. In the last census, the agency's own sampling suggested that many places were off by several percent, even if that sort of evidence holds little water in terms of changing the "official" numbers.

LMich · #**879** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 4:51 AM**

I was not at all surprised at Atlanta's numbers. When the state numbers came out and Arizona and Georgia were listed as having the most massive overestimates, and then after numbers starting coming out for Sunbelt central cities showing overestimates (particularly those with (relative) small borders), I was actually thinking that Atlanta might have shown a slight decrease.

There's really no way of knowing, but I think the recession has a lot to do with these numbers, more so than some think. I also think that the recession changed the way and places America moves more than we'll know. It's been a pretty fundamental change. It would seem to me that the Census Bureau, if they want to be taken a bit more seriously, should stop weighing residential permits so heavily when making their estimates.

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Originally Posted by J. Will

Isn't it the law to return the census form? In Canada it's required that you are counted in the census, and in theory you can go to jail if you don't give your info.

It's the same hear. And, just like in Canada (which also has uncounted citizens and residents), there has never been anyone jailed for not filling out a Census form, I don't believe.

L41A · #**880** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 6:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by LMich

I was not at all surprised at Atlanta's numbers. When the state numbers came out and Arizona and Georgia were listed as having the most massive overestimates, and then after numbers starting coming out for Sunbelt central cities showing overestimates (particularly those with (relative) small borders), I was actually thinking that Atlanta might have shown a slight decrease.

I'm not necessarily disputing the numbers. It is what it is. But I am surprised if not a little shocked.

For someone who has lived in Atlanta in the 80's, 90's and 00's -- it's really hard to grasp that the city grew by only 3k in population in the 2000s - especially when the Census says it grew by over 15k in the 1990s. And most likely the first years of the 1990s it was still losing population because the city had been losing for the previous two decades (the 70's and the 80's). And as a person who have lived here many years, I certainly wouldn't think or predict the city as losing population in 00's as you suggest.

There had to have been a big exodus of people from the westside (which I don't see either) to offset the obvious additions in Midtown Atlanta alone. The condo towers in Midtown Atlanta seemed to have attract many new residents. They were infill that replaced some nightclubs, parking lots, small hotels, etc. I'm not saying they are full because I don't know - but they didn't replace buildings where residents live like with public housing reconstruction. And I haven't even mentioned Midtown West with the new residential complexes along Northside Drive, Howell Mill, Marietta Street, etc. Even outside of Midtown and Midtown West, there seem to be increases of residents.

Atlanta has demolished some public housing projects but they mostly have been redeveloped with similar number of units.