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A story on CTV News this evening reported that the location of the Children's Hospital won't necessarily be at RUH. Apparently 3 options are being considered now:
1. Incorporate Children's Hospital into existing space at City Hospital
2. Build a new structure at City Hospital
3. Build new at RUH

IIRC, back when RUH seemed to be the confirmed location, they were considering either building the Children's Hospital over the exisiting RUH parkade, or demolishing Ellis Hall and building it there. I liked the parkade idea myself, as Ellis Hall has some heritage value. That, and a new building where the parkade lies could have a prominent riverfront presence (for better or worse, depending on the ultimate design of the hospital... cutting edge and inspiring? or sterile and safe?). If you take a look at the RUH/Health Sciences complex on Google Maps, and consider the brand new Mental Health Centre, and the 2 academic wings U/C, the complex doesn't have much wiggle room for future expansion (except over that parkade!)

I hope they stick with RUH... City Hospital is just too out of the way.

WOW... it's exciting to now see 3 tower cranes over the U of S campus. I wonder if one will pop up at the residence project in time to make it 4?
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Certainly the city is well endowed with striking bridges, a cute downtown core and quaint riverside strolls, but what about the cold?
The reporter says our downtown is "cute"
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Ah, perhaps this SP article is better at explaining the matter than I.....

Health region considers new site for Saskatchewan children's hospital
The StarPhoenix February 10, 2010

After three years of denying the possibility, the Saskatoon Health Region says it is now considering City Hospital as a potential site for the Children’s Hospital of Saskatchewan.

“There has been significant discussion in the community on whether or not building a new $200-million dollar facility co-located with Royal University Hospital makes the most sense,” says Maura Davies, Saskatoon Health Region president and CEO.

Questions from the public, along with new circumstances — major construction at and around RUH, plus rising operating costs — forced the health region to reconsider its original proposal, said Davies.

“Given the size and importance of the project, I think it’s important to do the due diligence and validate a site based on several perspectives.”

The health region is now looking at three options for the location of the children’s hospital: using the existing City Hospital building; constructing new space at City Hospital; or constructing new space at Royal University Hospital (RUH).

Davies said the region will consider impact on patients and family; capital and incremental operating costs; impact and fit with relevant capital plans of the City of Saskatoon, University of Saskatchewan and the Saskatoon Cancer Centre; ability to accommodate required key clinical service co-locations; implications for location and relocation of other clinical services and staff; and impact on the health region's ability to accommodate changes and needs over the next decade.

The issue of the location has long been drawn out. Even though an RUH site was chosen in 2007 and approved by the provincial government, the health region has never decided exactly where the children's hospital would be built on University of Saskatchewan campus. Others have argued that City Hospital should be transformed into a children's hospital.

“The region and the provincial government remain committed to a children's hospital,” stated Jim Rhode, chair of the Saskatoon Regional Health Authority, on Wednesday when the health region announced the hiring of the children’s hospital project manager.

Ottawa-based ZW Group will oversee the design and construction of the new children's hospital. The prime architect for the design phase has yet to be announced.

The decision in 2007 to put the children’s hospital at RUH was made after consultation with those most affected, and based on the fact it’s located near existing maternal and pediatric services, the University of Saskatchewan and Saskatoon Cancer Centre.

The health region’s review will be conducted by a 12-member panel that includes the new project manager and architect; members of the public; staff and physicians; along with representation from the University of Saskatchewan, Ministry of Health and Saskatoon Regional Health Authority.

“The Children's Hospital Foundation of Saskatchewan has been and will continue to be the provincial foundation raising money for a new children's hospital, regardless of its site location,” said Brynn Boback-Lane, Children's Hospital Foundation of Saskatchewan president and CEO.

“We are pleased to see the region taking the right steps to make the right choice.”

The review is expected to take three months, according to the health region. The recommendations will be made public.
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The reporter says our downtown is "cute"
I'm ok with cute. Who doesn't like cute? I think we spend more money on stuff like this b/c of the winter, what else is there to do .

I would love to see the children's hospital on the riverbank, and it would be magnificent if they actually made it architecturally like a childrens structure. Maybe make it like lego or some sort of building toy like that. It would add major architectural value to the city as well continue to emphasize our prominence in medicine (child hosp, mental health, etc.)
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From a fellow who has a store out there.
I was talking to the Sous Chef guy and he told me they were headed for a Stonebridge expansion as well.
     
     
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There's a Q&A interview with commercial real estate heavy hitter Tom McClocklin in the SP this morning. Lots of good news for you fans of the bursting suburbs; as for downtown hopes are a little more restrained. He says, among other things, 275 isn't going to go forward until a tenant is in place. Makes sense.

McClocklin sees strength in commercial real estate market

By Cassandra Kyle,
The StarPhoenix
February 11, 2010



Tom McClocklin is confident Saskatoon's commercial real estate market is only going to strengthen in the months to come.

McClocklin, president of Colliers McClocklin Real Estate Corp., believes the city's projected GDP growth this year will translate into positive movement in the industry. If Saskatoon can sell $500 million worth of building permits in recession-haunted 2009 -- the second-highest sales figure on record -- will 2010 have what it takes to follow the act?

StarPhoenix business reporter Cassandra Kyle asked McClocklin five questions about the outlook for the city's commercial real estate market.

SP: Let's talk about downtown. Will there be any exciting developments in the district this year?

TM: Downtown Saskatoon is still in a very good position as far as relatively low vacancy, and that's a good thing. There is one building, the new Discovery Plaza, which BHP Billiton went into, that has about 30,000 square feet of vacancy. If there's a tenant that comes along, or a tenant that needs anything more than that, then there's going to be justification for a new office building to be built.

In March or April, the old Capitol 4 is coming on, but again it's only about 30,000 square feet, so any tenant that's larger than that is going to require new construction to happen. So there are a couple locations basically ready to go, one is 275 Second Ave. and then, potentially, another site south of the Galaxy movie theatre and beside the Clinkskill Manor.

So those are sites that you could build office buildings on there are places that could happen. So if we see the tenant, we'll see the building.

SP: Vacancy rates increased in both the city's office and industrial markets in 2009 -- is this a bad thing?

TM: No. The vacancy rates in both of those markets, industrial and office, are still at very healthy levels, and in fact if they get too low it's not good for the market because there's just no opportunity for tenants to expand or industrial businesses to grow.

In the office market, eight to 10 per cent is still considered in the healthy vacancy rate (range) and we're just at six per cent right now. And the industrial market is 3.71 per cent, it's still extremely low . . . there's three buildings of 100,000-square-feet plus that are vacant. If you take those out of the market you're down to less than 2.5 per cent vacancy. So it's very low, very tight, so it's in a very healthy position right now -- both those markets. I don't see it as a negative at all.

SP: The city's retail market still seems to be growing. Do you know of many new companies planning to set up shop in Saskatoon?

TM: There's a new World Gym, the second location, that's set to open in Stonebridge Village, 25,000 square feet, and then there's also the 30,000-square-foot addition to Walmart in that mall. There has been a bunch of new ones open in the last year like HomeSense, Ashley Furniture -- those are new to the city, but they're now open.

Then there's Blairmore, which is just going under construction, with the largest Walmart in Saskatchewan at 185,000 square feet. A fair number of tenants, I understand, are going to go under construction. . . . There's rumours as to who they are -- your usual bank, gas, restaurant, those type of players.

Preston Crossing has the Rona Store the new 110,000-square-foot Rona will be completed this year. That's not new to the city but it's quite an expansion for them and a statement for the market. It's a big place to be in. And University Heights, which is the 23-acres that Pillar Development Corp. is doing, is going to add another quarter-million square feet of retail space. . . . They haven't announced who their tenants are.

SP: Which area of the city do you expect will see the most growth this year?

TM: In the retail, most of the development is going to be between Blairmore and University Heights, probably equally between those two on a retail front, the two big developments that are going on.

Industrial, there's a fair amount of development still in the north industrial sector, there's a fair amount of land there that should see new construction because our industrial vacancy rates are low.

And then office --actually we're starting to see a fair amount of suburban office buildings built. Out in the Stonebridge area, D&S Homes built one building, Pillar Properties is just finishing another one and D&S Homes, I think, is planning to have a third office building out there. Then there's one on Eighth Street right now, as well, being built.

So for sure we're going to see suburban office development and then, again, if we can find that 30,000-square-foot-plus tenant, we'll see a new office building announced for downtown.

SP: Will the warehouse district become as fashionable as city planners hope it will?

TM: I hope so. It has the potential -- it's a small area, so it's not ever going to be big. It's geographically small and also there's not a lot of those warehouse-type buildings there, unfortunately, but once 25th Street gets pushed through, it's going to have a lot more access to it.

I think it will be a very trendy, niche area. I think it's going to be quite a popular area, but it's still a fairly small neighbourhood.

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I keep forgetting about 275 second. That seems like it will start construction this year. A crane downtown? Hopefully.
     
     
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...a new building where the parkade lies could have a prominent riverfront presence (for better or worse, depending on the ultimate design of the hospital...
Anything to hide that monstrosity of a parkade would be a welcome addition to the riverbank in that area.

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...it's exciting to now see 3 tower cranes over the U of S campus. I wonder if one will pop up at the residence project in time to make it 4?
I seriously doubt the residence project ... at least the first phase of it ... will require a crane. It appears to be a 5 storey wood and metal stud building with concrete block firewalls. Of course, I could be wrong and it could be poured reinforced concrete, but I doubt it at a reasonable price tag.
     
     
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Actually there is now a 4th crane being assembled at that residence project, pegnota crane.
     
     
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so it must require the forming method, i could be wrong too
     
     
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^ I'm not sure. Something has appeared on the construction site that appears to be a base tower for a crane (pardon my ignorance of the technical terms). I saw it today from Preston Ave... it's an upright black steel truss tower that is similar in appearance to the other tower cranes on campus (minus the boom and counterweight on top). I was surprised to see it so early in construction...

Or could this be something completely different???

Edit: kiwi4life beat me to it... so I'm not the only one who noticed that!
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Actually there is now a 4th crane being assembled at that residence project, pegnota crane.
I stand corrected. I am impressed that this construction may in fact be quite substantial, rather than the wood frame construction that the contractor does a lot of.
     
     
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haha, not surprised. Montgomery is a stronghold of NIMBYism.

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Nutana community association wants deeper look at granny suites

By davidhutton Tue, Feb 9 2010 COMMENTS(1) City Hall Notebook

Filed under: granny suites

The idea for holding demonstration projects for garden/garage suites was brought forward to council last night as an information item, but that didn't stop some good debate over the issue

Gordon Wensley said the city should "look before you leap."

Later, senior neighbourhood planner Alan Wallace said, "That's exactly what we're doing."

If Saskatoon zoning bylaws are changed to allow for the construction of the suites they wouldn't allow neighbourhoods to opt out, Wallace said.

Montgomery Place has said they don't want the garage suites under any circumstance.


"We're not in favour of picking and choosing," Wallace said.

Wallace said he's not in favour of limiting the number of granny/garage suites per neighbourhood after Coun. Tiffany Paulsen said the city should learn from the concerns raised over the concentration of group homes in some areas.

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The University is awesome, when they want to build something, they just start building it. There's not a 100 reviews and studies and city council meetings to discuss it and approve it , no funding to fall through, just like hey we're gonna build this and 2 weeks later there's a crane in the ground.
     
     
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The University is awesome, when they want to build something, they just start building it. There's not a 100 reviews and studies and city council meetings to discuss it and approve it , no funding to fall through, just like hey we're gonna build this and 2 weeks later there's a crane in the ground.


I think there was a fair bit of consultation on this, but when they decide to unveil their plans, they follow through with them. The city can't even complete something as simple as the 25th St. extension that should have been done 10 years ago. I think they are still drawing up plans for it. It's not what you say. It's what you do!
     
     
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Another crane is being erected for the e wing.
     
     
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